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[edit] re Crystal Lake

Um. Do we really need a listing for a town with no residents??? :) -- April 18:21 Nov 27, 2002 (UTC)

I am reliably informed that there are cities with a population of 94 so I see no reason why such a major conurbation such as this should not be included... :-) user:sjc

Just because a place doesn't have any residents doesn't mean it isn't important. Most major central buisness districs in American downtown areas also have 0 residents. --mav

[edit] from VfD

  • Crystal Lake, Broward County, Florida - It's not a town...it's a lake. A small lake. Nothing really links to it, but it's listed in the List of places with fewer than ten people, but it actually is just a lake, and most lakes have fewer than ten people. See Crystal Lake Country Club for the only really relavant Google hit. There is a Crystal Lake Florida, but that's in Washington County, not Broward. So...unless this is a very interesting lake, it doesn't need an article here. Paige 19:44, 15 Sep 2003 (UTC)
    • But for whatever reason the US census did list this location, otherwise the Rambot would not create the entry originally (see it's history for the full census data, that it has 0 families, 0 latinos etc.). Maybe it is the area around that country club which does not belong to any other town, and was thus counted separately. andy 20:06, 15 Sep 2003 (UTC)
      • Hmmm. But the census data also says it conatins no land and none of it is covered by water, which means...it doesn't exist? There's clearly a paradox there. Either way, the question becomes: Should the Wikipedia become a repository for all census data? Is that the proper role of an encyclopedia? Paige 20:28, 15 Sep 2003 (UTC)
    • I've been pondering merging such lakes, etc, into Broward County, Florida. Martin 09:24, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I've implemented my ponderance. Objections? Martin 11:49, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Paige's weblink to a country club is in Illinois, not Florida: [1] - wrong Crystal Lake

Sorry about that, Martin! You know how it is when looking for a relevant link using Google: a dozen windows open, almost all of them the wrong thing, cutting and pasting quickly. It wasn't the thrust of my point anyway, just an illustration, but I pasted the wrong link. The correct Crystal Lake Country Club, the one in Florida :), is here, but since that tells you nothing, the map is here (comparing the two map layouts, perhaps you can see why I mistakenly thought I’d stumbled on the correct site). Mea culpa! Mea maxima culpa! If it had been for entry into an article, I would have checked it more carefully, but as it was I was only trying to provide all the necessary info on the VfD page, rather than just saying “Not a town; lake.” Please rest assured there will be copious and thorough self flagellation until I’m sure I’ve learned my lesson. -- Paige 15:10, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Sounds like fun :)
Thanks for the fix - oh, and nice to see you still around Wikipedia. Martin 15:16, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I know this conversation is nearly two years old, but Crystal Lake is a subdivision/Country Club in Deerfield Beach, Florida. In all likelihood, it has no permanent population. All of its residents have likely declared their residency in other locales in the United States. ℬastique▼talk 01:29, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

That is correct. --Moreau36 23:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Confusion: Geographic Coordinates points to a lake not in Deerfield Beach. The Lake is actually just north of Stirling Road. USGS data further collaborates this as well. So in other words, the Crystal Lake we are all talking about, is not the one being profiled on this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.229.97.168 (talk) 17:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Someone should incorporate this into the article... from the Sun-Sentinel

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-ccensus04aug04,0,2122776.story

Minorities become a majority in Broward Caribbean, Latin American population altering demographics

By Alva James-Johnson & Robin Benedick South Florida Sun-Sentinel August 4, 2006

Blacks, Hispanics and other minorities, whose numbers have been steadily growing in Broward County, are now the majority, a statistical milestone that could significantly affect everything from politics to education in the coming years.

The non-Hispanic white population in Broward, which was 58.3 percent as recently as 2000, is now 49.9 percent, a slip of more than 8 percentage points in just five years, according to a U.S. Census Bureau report released today.

That's a dramatic change from 1990, when three out of four Broward residents were non-Hispanic whites.

The number of minority residents in the county is expected to reach about 63 percent by 2030, according to independent estimates by state officials. The total county population is about 1.8 million.

Demographers attribute the unprecedented shift to the exploding Caribbean and Latin American populations. Garth Rose, a Lauderhill businessman who tracks Caribbean socioeconomic trends, said residents already are feeling the impact in their daily lives, and the census -- accused of undercounting minority populations in the past -- is finally catching up to the reality.

"At last, the Census Bureau has got it right," he said, pointing out the significant presence the Caribbean population already has in such cities as Miramar, Pembroke Pines, Lauderdale Lakes, Lauderhill and Coral Springs.

The group, made up mostly of immigrants from black Caribbean countries, has fueled the growth of the black population.

Since 2001, more black people have come to Broward each year than to any other county in the United States, according to the census, increasing the county's black population by almost 85,000 people between 2000 and 2005. The increase would overflow Dolphin Stadium.

The number of blacks in Broward rose to 442,355 in 2005 from 357,759 in 2000, while the number of white Hispanics jumped to 364,121 from 259,051.

Palm Beach County also experienced a decline in the percentage of its non-Hispanic white population. Whites made up about 65.5 percent of the county's 1.3 million residents, according to census estimates for 2005. But that was down from 66.4 percent of the population the previous year. In Miami-Dade, the non-Hispanic white population dropped to 18.6 percent from 20.8 in the same five-year period.

As members of the country's fastest-growing minority group, Hispanics expressed little surprise that minorities prevail in Broward. A census study released in May showed one-third of Americans identify themselves as a minority. The country's 42.7 million Hispanics are a large part of that trend.

"This is not a watershed event. We've always known that Broward is one of the most diverse counties in the country. Now, we have the numbers to back that up," said Josie Bacallao, president of the Hollywood-based Hispanic Unity of Florida.

Dick Ogburn, assistant to the director for research and budget at the South Florida Regional Planning Council, said the percentage of Broward's non-Hispanic white population has slipped due to the huge influx of Hispanics and people of Caribbean origin, especially after Hurricane Andrew in 1992.

That's when many people migrated from Miami-Dade County into southwestern Broward in droves, he said.

Census figures show a consistent drop in Broward's non-Hispanic white population over the past five years, plunging to 886,609 in 2005 from 952,196 in 2000. But Ogburn said the new residents had a bigger role in the demographic shift.

"It's not so much because we've seen an outward flow of the non-Hispanic white population," Ogburn said, pointing out that seven out of 10 new residents in Broward were born abroad. "Instead, it's because the minority population has grown."

Young families moving from Latin America are forgoing the fast urban pace of Miami and settling in the gated enclaves of such cities as Margate and Weston, home to many Venezuelans and Colombians, said Fabio Andrade, head of the Weston-based Americas Community Center.

"We have a large established community in Broward County, people who are looking for quiet, residential neighborhoods where they can raise their families," he said. "They are enrolling their kids in schools and adding to the overall stability of Broward County."

Rose said the same is happening among the growing Caribbean population. He said Caribbean-Americans from Miami migrated to Broward after Hurricane Andrew. They paved the way for younger families coming straight from the islands and for Caribbean retirees from the Northeast.

"The people from the Caribbean are coming to seek a new life, and the people from the Northeast are retirees just shifting their ZIP codes," he said. "They're coming with some economic assets."

But Pearl Woolridge, a black resident of Oakland Park, wondered where was the political clout if whites are no longer a majority in the county. She said the latest census numbers should make county leaders "cater to the people they serve."

E. Pat Larkins, a Pompano Beach commissioner, said blacks and Hispanics should work together.

"There's no need having those numbers if we don't make a difference," he said. "It puts an obligation on the black leadership, including myself, to lead and seek more parity as we go through this evolution. The demographics are changing dramatically. We must work with other groups for our interests, for our fair share."

Staff Writers Gregory Lewis, Tal Abbady, Andrew Reid and Editorial Researchers John Maines and Jeremy Milarsky contributed to this report.

Alva James-Johnson can be reached at ajjohnson@sun-sentinel.com or 954-572-2028.


Copyright © 2006, South Florida Sun-Sentinel

[edit] Pictures?

I think we should add some pictures to this page to show off this beautiful county we live in, maybe some pictures of Port Everglades, Fort Lauderdale Beach, Hillsboro Inlet?

[edit] Government

A section on the government should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.149.123.43 (talk)

Ditto Broward County Transit. B.Wind 10:48, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AIDS?

The current article states: "Broward County leads the nation with AIDS cases, with 58.4 new AIDS cases per 100,000 people."

Where is the source for this, honestly I haven't been able to find this statistic any where else...

This, perhaps? At least for the 'leads the nation' claim. The article also calls the accuracy of the numbers into question. -- Donald Albury 20:50, 8 November 2006 (UTC)