Talk:Brooklyn
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Brooklyn was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Reviewed version: April 13, 2008 |
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Brooklyn was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Reviewed version: December 6, 2006 |
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[edit] Needed additions
This article has recently undergone extensive revisions. It needs improvements to "Transportation" and "Sites of interest" (which should be turned into a new "Tourism" section). "Neighborhoods" needs to be reworked. A new section on architecture is needed, which should discuss Brooklyn's unique brownstones, the Williamsburg Savings Bank, and the Brooklyn Bridge. Wv235 05:15, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
"Bensonhurst" is misspelled. Oh, Wikipedia!
On "Education", some schools are missing. Polytechnic University of New York is in B'klyn Heights. CUNY CityTech is there, too, and it's really large.
I removed "(I hate)" which was put in front of Brooklyn. I did google it though, fascinating stuff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.184.184.101 (talk) 09:28, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Possible new image
linked here, http://brooklynramblings.blogspot.com/2006/07/bushwick-beer-capital-of-northeast.html, this map shows the founding 6 town of brooklyn in good detail, how does one go about inquiring copyright details, as I'd like to add it to this wiki.
Hey, this is Sonja of Brooklyn Ramblings. I got that image from Brooklyn Geneology, http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com, Image is http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Image/Bushwick/BushwickMap.jpg. You can probably just contact them directly to find out where they got it.
Hi add http://www.hellobrooklyn.com to your links on Brooklyn. It's by far the most informative website in Brooklyn. Thanks - a hellobrooklyn.com fan
[edit] Famous Brooklynites
Some one should compile a list of famous Brooklynites from popular music, movies, industry, politics. Some famous people from Brooklyn, right off the top of my head are: Larry David, Barbara Streisand, Neil Diamond, David Geffen (of Geffen Records), Spike Lee, Moe, Larry and Curly from the Three Stooges.... There are probably dozens of well known people originaly from BKLYN, not to memention, some extremely successful and wealthy people. There are also many famous people buried in Brooklyn: Boss Tweed (local politican portrayed in the film "Gangs of New York."
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- Why, you. . . I oughta. . . Larry Fine is from Philadelphia! ;->
[edit] New Netherlands box
The box of 17th Century governors and communities is mere clutter, in this article. Same with any map from that era. Such material belongs in History of Brooklyn where it can do good. Jim.henderson 06:27, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Remove poor quality sources
Overall a good article on Brooklyn, but does low-quality, generally unwatched and undiscussed web content like "The Burg" really deserve to be cited? It's an obscure, amateur web show (which I didn't know about until seeing it pretty much -advertised- here), and doesn't speak for the public as suggested by it being cited for the L train being known as something "colloquially".
The L train is better discussed in New York Magazine, probably a more credible source than whatever that Burg thing is. http://nymag.com/nymetro/realestate/neighborhoods/features/14884/.
I suggest removing the "hipster express" and its source link - it brings down the quality of Wikipedia to see it relying on information from poor quality sources.
The map coordinates listed are wrong. They should be 40 deg 42' 51" N, 74 deg 0' 22" W.
[edit] Failed "good article" nomination
This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of December 6, 2006, compares against the six good article criteria:
- 1. Well written?: The article is mostly well-written, although the prose could be tightened up. The Culture section could use a rewrite to make it easier to read, and the Tourism section could also use work.
- 2. Factually accurate?: Very thin on references. Fifteen citations for a 39k article is insufficient. Many sections completely lack citations.
- 3. Broad in coverage?: The article offers broad coverage of its topic. Very good use of 'main article' and 'see also' links to additional information that might be of interest.
- 4. Neutral point of view?: Mostly NPOV. The few exceptions might be cleared up by citation.
- 5. Article stability? Article appears reasonably stable.
- 6. Images?: Images are all properly tagged and seem appropriate.
When these issues are addressed, the article can be resubmitted for consideration. Thanks for your work so far. --Shimeru 21:59, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A Class Article?
The article is rated B class. Should it be rated A-Class? It seems pretty complete, even if it needs more citations. -- Ssilvers 15:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I added a new section on the language because the language I think is a important subject because it helps people understand the culture of brooklyn more. Since i myself is from and still from brooklyn I know what people say and also what it means.
also if some1 finds any mistake plz tell me but only if u r from brooklyn.
[edit] NPOV
How is the following NPOV?
Though a part of New York City, Brooklyn maintains a distinct character of its own. Brooklyn is enriched by an almost unparalleled cultural diversity, a cutting-edge art scene, strong neighborhoods, and phenomenal Nineteenth Century architecture.
I think someone else could do a better job rewriting this than I could. DeSales 15:39, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- It does read like a tourism pamphlet. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ultron (talk • contribs) 17:04, 23 April 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Population density
I don't understand the bit in the introduction that reads
- Brooklyn is coterminous with Kings County, which is the most populous county in New York State, and the second most densely populated county in the United States[2] (after New York County, which is coterminous with Manhattan).
Is New York County not part of New York State, then? Classical geographer 09:22, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
- What's causing the confusion exactly? It's pretty clear to me - New York Country is the most densely populated county in NYS, and Kings County is next. Brooklyn has more people than Manhattan, but Manhattan has a smaller area than Brooklyn, so it's more densely populated. --Ytny (talk) 12:39, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
- I think the confusion is in that the sentence can be read as if it is saying Kings County is the most populous county in NYS and the parenthetical only modifies "the second most densely populated county in the United States." For some reason, I read it that way the first couple of times and couldn't see why you couldn't see the confusion. I can think of a few ways to rewrite and will attempt it if a better copy writer and editor doesn't first. DeSales 05:05, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I am pretty sure that BERGEN COUNTY, NJ (Across the Hudson from Manhattan) is the most densely populated county in the US.
[edit] "It is the largest borough in the NYC area by size, no matter what any other source says."
This comment is completely unfounded. Not only do the numbers of general area and land area shown in the side-panel prove that Queens is the largest borough, but all one has to do is look at a map to see that Brooklyn is in fact smaller than Queens. Now, I am a native Brooklynite, and I completely understand Brooklyn pride, but no sentiment of belonging justifies misinformation. I strongly suggest this comment be removed. It sounds more like something I would hear on the street than read in an encyclopedia, and comments like these are what debase the value of Wikipedia as a good source of reference.
- Agreed, I removed it.--Guyver8400 12:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New York City Meetup
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[edit] No mention of rap or hip hop in culture
Brooklyn is one of the most influential areas on the planet when it comes to hip hop music, artists such as mos_def renowned the world over are from Brooklyn. This ought to be represented in the culture section prominently. Wikimam (talk) 22:06, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Crime
In the year of 2006 and 2007 brooklyn has more murder in its northern region than all of queens county had for both north and south. About 40% more. Of the new recruits for the NYPD 1/3 of operation impact will be going to northern brooklyn.... can anyone incorporate some of this into this article. Ny1 has the broadcast ill link it. http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=9&aid=76912 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.23.218.59 (talk) 02:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cspbbn.pdf
[edit] GAN failed
Sorry, it's not ready for GA yet. More referencing needed. The Geography section has 1 ref in total, for instance. Refs need formatting; {{cite web}} suggested. Also, short paragraphs need to be expanded/cleaned up. Please look at some GA city articles for a feel of how it should look. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 01:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
If I may just add to that, I think that the article looks great and is very informative. If the referencing issue is sorted out then I've got no doubt that it'll succeed next time. Nice job. :-) --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 01:14, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- I guess I will nominate it again when this is all fixed. Good luck to all of us.--RyRy5 Got something to say? 01:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- Indeed, good luck. I'm happy to take a look when you think it's ready. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 01:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
