User talk:Bridesmill

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Bridesmill is busy in real life and may not respond swiftly to queries.

The translation projects I am working on will be resumed as soon as my work schedule allows for Wiki to have a part to play in my life again - hopefully soon.....In the meantime, if you can't wait & want to take what I've started in my sandbox, go right ahead

Contents 1 Rachel 2 Thanks 3 Whoa! 4 Kalendar Koffee House Company 5 Canadian Forces link 6 Thank you 7 Sig private purchases 8 Gold Coast, Queensland 9 The CIA and September 11 (book) 10 Eamon de Valera's refugee policy 11 Rudolf Virchow 12 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 13 J'implore 14 east sea 15 The changes 16 Carthage 17 Red Factor 18 Sakina 19 Imacomp 20 Carthage: Marduk / Hannibal - IP addresses 21 Your question on Postinus (dutch wikipedia) 22 Thanks! 23 Eminent 24 Sakina Bint Hussain 25 Nelson Frye talk page 26 Thank you 27 Translationz 28 on singular they 29 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rationales to impeach George W. Bush (2nd nomination) 30 *** Important - Your input requested ASAP *** 31 Darkred 32 Now about jewelry 33 Cuba 34 Beaver 35 Smiley template 36 Samothrace 37 The Bashir page 38 I am just swamped 39 Wanted: Ctesiles 40 Re: Christian Naturism 41 Rachel actress 42 Sweet Grass 43 DYK 44 Henri vs Henry Bernstein 45 Canadian Forces unification 46 Downy wood violet 47 Your request 48 Slavery in ancient Greece 49 Borobudur 50 DYK 51 Fun with CltFn 52 Prostitution in ancient Greece 53 Howard Bloom 54 Piet Kramer - Thanks! 55 Chronology issues 56 Water fluoridation 57 DYK 58 Diet of ancient greece 59 Rotary nonsense 60 Re:NPA 61 Honor the Light Brigade 62 "Minor" edits 62.1 Bridesmill lies and destructions on Rotary International 63 SO CALLED FEMALE MEMBERSHIP who was in the truth WOMEN SEGREGATION IN ROTARY 64 Smiley box 65 RfC issued on Rotary International 66 Translations 67 Re: Infobox Military Conflict 68 Economy of Ancient Greece 69 Plato 70 Your article, Naumachia, was selected for DYK! 71 Jacob Luitjens 72 KLM 73 Anal Bleaching 74 Date links 75 Geostatistics 76 Hi 77 Ancient Slavery 78 Hand puppet 79 List of railroads with a nickname ending in "Road" 80 Jewellery 81 Angelica 82 Gregorian chant 83 DYK 84 Merci beaucoup ! 85 Request for advice 86 Pella 87 Chinese herbology 88 The so-called need for Aldux to block me about Lindbergh, P.Bush and Rotary 89 The blanking of Rotarian Conferencemakers by BridesMill- Polemic 90 Reverts 91 Gay, Lesbian and Asian tolerance clues in Rotary International 92 still not answering on BridesMill blanking on Rotarian conferencemakers list 93 'STOP BEING OBSTINATE 94 The pics 95 Finally 96 Thanks 97 ok then 98 Holy... 99 RFC 100 Rotary RFC 101 Talk:List of Ontario provincial highways 102 Reply 103 Thanks (again) 104 Pella 105 Hi 106 Hellenistic Art 107 Anthropology wikiproject 108 Jewellery 109 Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can 110 User:PierreLarcin 111 Image:Cardinal flower20010810.PNG 112 New meetup in Toronto 113 Re: Portal:War - 26 Oct anniversaries 114 lineage and descent 115 Engagement ring 116 In Remembrance... 117 Re: Grammar Nazi 118 Image:Brocquy_A_Family.jpg 119 Beaver paws

[edit] Rachel

The stuff that wasn't in the French article was part of the original English article on Rachel; I just merged the two. (So I'm not actually sure about the veracity of the raschel knitting machine and the colour.) Thanks for looking it over! Tamarkot 20:07, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your work on my basic translation of Jean Poiret. Seeing that you didn't have to change that much of it fairly warmed the cockles of my heart, and made me think that my French language skills aren't as pathetic as I thought. Hope to see you around for my next attempt! --Ddsilver 15:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Whoa!

You've done some impressive work translating from French to English! Good luck with that massive article about slavery in Ancient Greece--it looks really interesting, but man is it looong! Thanks so much for doing so much, it's really appreciated. I owe you some freshly baked internet pastries. Thanks again! Tamarkot 23:00, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Whoa part deux, dude! Slavery in ancient Greece is so pretty and shiny and informative and now you're doing yet another long article on ancient Greece! I am in awe. *applause* Tamarkot 05:08, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kalendar Koffee House Company

Thanks for the heads up. The Kalendar Koffee House page probably isn't a speedy candidate since the duplicate has gone up on AFD. The user has been spamming and trying to use the 'pedia for advertising for a couple of weeks - you seem to have seen the Coffeehouse page already - and though the 'company' page could probably be construed as a speedy candidate itself (a different version was already speedied), I wanted to make sure that there was a consensus behind deleting in the hope of preventing further reposting. There is a means for posting similar pages under a single AFD vote, which I would've tried to do had I known of the duplicate at the time the first went up. Given that it's been a couple of days, though, I'd rather put it up for a separate vote just to be on the safe side. --DMG413 16:16, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

• • Deleting Kalendar from the coffee house category is wrong. To claim that Kalendar is advertising is also incorrect.

The Kalendar article lists date of opening and location with interior photo. The so called "vanity" aspects have been removed from the article. Kalendar may not be as "noteable" as the larger chains, but that should not preclude it from listing in the coffee house category. To call this article spam would be to call all listings in this category spam. The previous AFD article was edited down to be considered for inclusion - tis all. No harm intended. This on the other hand is the opening paragraphs of the Starbucks listing. I imagine that all listings in this category are similar to this.

Starbucks NASDAQ: SBUX (SEHK: 4337), is a large multinational chain of coffee shops, often serving pastries, popular in the US especially among students and young urban professionals. The corporate headquarters are in Seattle, Washington. The company was in part named after Starbuck, a character in Moby-Dick, and its insignia is a stylized cartoon Siren. According to the company's fact sheet, as of February 2006, Starbucks had 6,216 company-operated outlets worldwide: 5,028 of them in the United States and 1,188 in other countries and U.S. territories. In addition, the company has 4,585 joint-venture and licensed outlets, 2,633 of them in the United States and 1,952 in other countries and U.S. territories.

By definition most of the listings in the coffee house category are "non-notable". In fact the majority of the listings are not known outside the constituency where they are established. Being "non-notable" has always been a difficult area for editors. In this instance for example, the band Pursuit of Happiness wrote a song and video about Kalendar (1996 Kalendar/Gretzky Rocks/In Praise Of (T.W.A.-The World's Address). This by definition makes Kalendar a noteable entity by Wikipedia standards see Wikipedia:Notability "A topic has notability if it is known outside of a narrow interest group or constituency, or should be because of its particular importance or impact". EllisCHanna 04:21, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

• Unfortunately, now the articles are BAI - one liners only. Bridesmill can read, and yes, there are other coffeshops out there that prob don't belong. Starbucks & Tim's *& Cafe du monde etc are notable - Kalendar is not. The fact that the user who put it up does nothing significant on Wiki besides promote the business they own makles it in Wiki's view & mine spam & self-promotion. One of the reasons Bridesmill Studio doesn't have a page (although hopefully someone will put it up ;-)I'm an inclusionist, but I cannot stand disengenuous behaviour. Bridesmill 04:51, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

• The image should stay in the article. There is not another interior photo of a "French Style Cafe" in the article, therefore this a highly relevant image. Claiming that the image is vanity/spam/corp is nonsense and an invalid arguement. The image adheres to WP:NPOV standards. Separately the Kalendar Koffee House article has been RFD. I agreed with the arguement made regarding Chains, and have removed the listing on the Coffee House Chains page. The RFD outcome should not reflect on this page. As editors you must not allow your emotions to influence your choices. If you allow the image to be removed then must reflect on the reasons why. None of the reason given for removal of the image are sound or reasonable ones.EllisCHanna 12:44, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

• As Ellis' partner in Kalendar I wanted to add my part to this discussion. I completely understand the arguements made for the references and articles in the coffee house chains page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kalendar Koffee House. I can see how Wikipedia could become full of advertising style information weakening the references made available in this valuable living encycodedia. I expressed concerns to my partner about that section from the start. But I also saw the possibility of a fit because ultimately it is a section listing businesses with their styles and descriptions. Now the pages that offer descriptions of cafes and coffee houses have excellent written references describing very accurately in words what these are. But the pictures are obviously less effective. It was this section that we were first drawn to. Each section, with the exception of section 2, has one or two picture references as I have reviewed:

Intro Coffee House - One photo simple image reference. 1. History - two great reference images

2. Contemporary coffeehouses -no images as references (actually I think a Starbucks image would work well here - being an icon of the coffee movement of the 21 century- creating a whole new direction in coffeehouses again)

3. Contemporary cafés

The article on contemporary cafes is then highlighted with one image identified as: "A coffee shop in Ireland. There is no outside seating due to unsuitable weather." I assume this was used originally due to lack of any usable cafe images. The photograph could be depicting a bike repair shop or pub or any number of retail stores from its appearance, and lends no further descriptive relevance to this section. We are just suggesting, that as it appears, each catagory under Coffee Houses has a picture reference (with the acception of section 2), the triptych we have added offers a much stronger contibution to the contemporary cafe article, versus the ubiquitous corner coffee sandwich joint that appears to be represented (I appologize if this is actually a famous Irish quirky cafe that I do not know about.)

4. Cannabis coffee shops. The Bull Dog image is perfect. This is very well known coffee house for this section.

I hope this helps define our arguement for keeping this image in this section.I do not see how the Kalendar image is seen as any more or less of an advertising image than any others. For ultimately, we do believe it enhances the article. It was accepted at one point (it had been placed in a picture box like all the others). We hope this inclusion can be made again. Cher-anne Nash, Kalendar, April 1/06 9:00am EllisCHanna 14:55, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Coffeehouse"

[edit] Canadian Forces link

Hi! I removed the link because the paragraph in Canadian Forces discusses the historical Army, Navy and Air Force. Royal Canadian Navy and Royal Canadian Air Force are about the historical institutions. But yeah, there is a "history" section in Canadian Forces Land Force Command so the link is useful even though LFC isn't the pre-1968 Army that the paragraph means.

The editor who added the link, 72.137.243.234 (talk | contribs), has a long history of creating wikilinks that look ok on the outside but are usually somehow wrong. My favorite is linking a mention of Great War in Dinobots — I'm pretty sure it's a different "Great War" than what the link suggests; I don't think the Transformers participated in WWI :-) I don't know if he does it on purpose or by accident but I review his linkings very critically... — Weregerbil 16:42, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

For your comments on Eastern Front (World War II). I know it's a contentious issue and I appreciate your input. As for SuperDeng, he was blocked for 72 hours about a month ago for personal attacks. I'm now blocking him for a week as he's gotten worse, not better. Thanks again. --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 10:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Your idea is an excellent one. As I've tried to tell the people involved before, you can't nail down the exact number of deaths in any war, especially World War II. So I think a range would be best. --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 13:02, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sig private purchases

You're talking to the wrong user. I was fixing a link only. I had no idea myself that Canadian forces can or cannot purchase private weapons.--Asams10 22:50, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gold Coast, Queensland

Hey, thanks for your input on the Gold Coast, Queensland article, I hope it helps. Cheers Triki-wiki 23:18, 6 April 2006 (UTC)Triki-wiki

[edit] The CIA and September 11 (book)

I hate pestering people's talk pages about AFD votes (or votes at all... it's very bad form really) but I've just done a huge amount of work on this article, and it is probably 80% different from when you voted. I have found a large number of English language references, and I have used <cite> so any reader or editor can identify where each individual statement in the article came from. That ought to deal with WP:V and WP:RS. As for notability, you can make your own decision: the relevant guideline says "Usually, books with an ISBN-number and/or availability in a couple dozen of libraries and/or a Project Gutenberg type website, and with a notability above that of an average cookbook or programmers manual would qualify". If you rank this as below an average cookbook, I'm not going to argue with you :) TheGrappler 04:12, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eamon de Valera's refugee policy

Thank you for your fairness re Demiurge, who is a known censor (domestic terrorism in the US, Ante Pavelic, Eamon de Valera, Irish-Scots, etc., etc.).

The truth re de Valera's government during WWII and refugees is as follows (please see my last edit, which undoubtedly has already been rv, for citations):

Virtually no refugees allowed into Eire. De Valera's government even rejected a Vatican request that several hundred scientists who had "converted" to Christianity be allowed to enter Eire. It is approximated that 30 Jews found haven in Eire, and that number only due to human trafficking. This did not prevent Roman Catholic Irish-American politicians from awarding the Free State $133,000,000 USD in Marshall Plan monies (mostly in the form of low-interest loans which were never repaid).

Thanks!! Brandubh Blathmac 09:42, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Please see comment on your talk page - I wasn't amused Bridesmill 02:21, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Bridesmill - I am sorry to have disappointed you earlier. I was not being "disingenuous"; I was genuinely grateful to have what I thought was an ally against a clear collusive effort by several individuals (all from Ireland) to pre-emptively censor me and to clearly be acting in collusion using boilerplate nonsense to preemptively rv anything I wrote. If I had written the Declaration of Independence Demiurge would label it "sockpuppetry". And I am not a Marshall Plan expert but according to the Marshall Plan wikipage the Plan was "to rebuild Europe".

So why would a neutral country which suffered no damage during the war, and which worse yet, had allowed the German embassy (in violation of the Free State's own neutrality) to possess potentially anti-Allied communications equipment until 1943(!!), and which, worse still, refused to accept more than a handful of refugees during the entire Holocaust, have been eligible for $133,000,000 worth of Marshall Plan loans, which it could never afford to repay, w/o friendly congressmen as I suggested?? I guess you know better.

I would like to have added (since the page is protected) to Eamon de Valera's page re "characteristics of Irish neutrality":

• Unwillingness to permit Jewish refugees from the Holocaust into Éire during or after the war (see [[1]],

[[2]]).

At the "first Irish holocaust memorial day on 26th January 2003", Justice Minister Michael McDowell apologized for "a culture of muted antisemitism in Ireland which discouraged immigration by Europe's shattered Jews. He said that "at an official level the Irish state was at best coldly polite and behind closed doors antipathetic, hostile and unfeeling toward the Jews."" ([[3]].)

Respectfully submitted.

Brandubh Blathmac

[edit] Rudolf Virchow

I now feel a bit guilty about putting in the RFC. Sorry about the flamewar. However, In a way I'm glad to see that it's not just me, but anyone who contradicts some view of his.

I would like to thank you for responding. The proposed solution is certainly not what I wanted, but it seems like a good compromise that says what both parties are asserting in a neutral way.

JASpencer 15:52, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] J'implore

Accuse me of being un-Canadian if you wish, but don't take away my newly acquired rights to Canadian health insurance! I haven't contacted the Canadian consulate here yet, but I will ... any day now! Zora 20:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually I agreed with what you said. My last edit was referring to the other editor who implied that the child-sacrifice allegation is something that we have to prove before mentioning in the article. Which is blatantly not how things work. Miskin 03:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] east sea

hi, thanks for your comment at Talk:East Sea. would you mind commenting on the content of the disambiguation page, namely whether "east sea" should be described as a "south korea's local name" or should be treated as an english name, per citations? thanks. Appleby 04:56, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The changes

Kurt Leyman (talk · contribs) is a sneaky vandal and wont stop changeing items if you ask him. He has changed many items in many articles without stateing sources. Often he gets reverted by others but he still keeps on chageing so if you want his to stop then go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_investigation and sign the post, you need to scroll down some. (Deng 15:03, 14 April 2006 (UTC))

"If you would like, I can put the Janes numbers down & cite them" --> Great :D (Deng 16:49, 14 April 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Carthage

Carthage got blocked. I'm trying to get some sort of "community consensus" on the issue (even if it doesn't agree with me), so the edit war can stop, and we can get a Sysop to unlock the page and take some action against the "culprit", whoever that may be, if they continue the edit war. Care to add your 2 cents? - Vedexent 15:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks :) I'm thinking requesting that when the protection is removed it still be semi-protected. That way anyone can edit it, if they have a user account - and are subject to the same blocks as everyone else. Part of this "edit war" is made harder by the fact that Marduck could have been banned for violating 3RR and just come back under a different IP - Vedexent 15:57, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh yes! Don't forget to vote! :D - Vedexent 15:58, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh! Sorry - it's on the talk page. Hmm... I'm unilingual, so I cannot help. But that's a good source. Someone should add that echo template thingy on the talk page :) - Vedexent 16:07, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red Factor

Thanks for responding to my AFD on Red Factor. You suggest a Speedy Delete, but is this immediately possible now that I have already AFD'd it? I'm a bit new to this business. Any help would be appreciated. Diagonalfish 22:39, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sakina

I know what you are trying to say bro. But the thing is i am new to wikipedia so i don't know how to break things down. I also asked for help from some experienced people, but they said that they don't have enough time. So i don't know how i can improve it, why don't you help me professionalize it. Salman

[edit] Imacomp

He's done a whole string of undiscussed deletions. Is there anything that can be done about him? JASpencer 16:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Carthage: Marduk / Hannibal - IP addresses

Your last comment on Talk:Carthage confused me but I didn't want to clutter up that page with my question. Are you suggesting Hannibal is Marduk in disguise or that Vedexent should chill wrt his charge that Hannibal is Marduk in disguise? Feel free to clarify your comment on Talk:Carthage for all to read if you agree that your original comment needs clarification or just respond on my Talk page if you think I'm just being dense. Richard 19:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

You responded "I'm implying that the possibility of Hannibal=Marduk is definitely there, based on Hannibal's language, and if you WHOIS the Marduk related IPs, they are from all over the US, with some emphasis on AOL - so the different IP, though normally an indicator, in this case mean little. If that's how you read what I wrote, OK - or did my other entry totally confuse? This guy's weird, esp as he also appears to have a yahoo.fr email"

I think you should have written the above in the Talk:Carthage page because your original text was confusing. However, I also agree that Marduk is weird and he is a bit of a troll although he does raise some valid points. My guess is that he is a Tunisian who either lives in or used to live in France. I would propose that you and Vedexent not push the Hannibal/IP issue much. Let's just get a vote in and see if we can get a consensus on a "reasonable" resolution to this issue. It's absorbed way too much bandwidth already. Richard 19:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your question on Postinus (dutch wikipedia)

I replied to your question on nl:Overleg:Carthago. Postinus is hard to find... If you guys here at en.wiki find some clues please let me know! NielsFTalk to me.. 17:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

I'll pretend that's a cup of tea. I don't drink coffee. I just finished a cup of Winter Blend No. 924 (SpecialTeas) with homemade condensed milk.

I looked at your web page. Your place looks nice, and you and your wife seem like VERY INTERESTING PEOPLE. If you decide to visit Hawai'i the next long cold winter, let me know and I'll give you folks a guided tour in the ratty blue car. My old email address may go away, so stash my gmail address: klofstrom@gmail.com. Zora 03:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eminent

The definition I provided from dictionary.com was for "eminent" not "eminence", I just happened upon the article and I felt it wasn't the right word, I don't understand what the big deal is.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 23:09, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Well think about it, in the first sentence the article basically is stating that Frye is towering above all the other central asian scholars as unequical fact, seeing as how some people have taken issue with Frye's work I don't see how there could be consensus about this, it kinda seems both erroneus annd POV, so what is the problem with just "well known"? Why not add the comment that he is "eminent" as an opinion later in the article.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 00:00, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Well why don't replace it with another word. I know what you mean but according to this dectionary I am looking at the first definition of "eminent" is almost the same as "pre-eminent" and "eminence". Can we change it to "widely respected" or "distinguished"?- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 00:20, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes my first language is English. Maybe Canadians has a slightly different view of the word "eminent" , anyways I hjave already changed it to distinguished.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 00:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes English seems to have a lot more ambiguity than any other language I have encountered, but I guess any language has ambiguity when you are fluent in it.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 00:39, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sakina Bint Hussain

Bro, why are you deleting the page without discussing it on the talk page? I am reverting it, and please do not make any changes without discussing it in the talk page. This article is not straight copied from the website that u are talking about but some information can be similar since there are not a lot of articles about Bibi Sakina binte Hussain on the net. Please before making any changes discuss it on the talk page like the rule says, and then if other users believe the same thing that I will not have any obligations on taking the whole article away from the wikipedia.org.

I am really sorry man. This user Zora is confusing me bro. I am very sorry.

Your rigth about the two articles for Bibi Sakina (AS). Do you know how we can merge the two articles because i don't know the process, ask striver too and where is he these day.

No bro, being killed and being martyred are two totally different things in Islam. That's the main reason why i don't like the word killed in the Shi’as section, that's why i keep on replacing the word killed with martyred. The word Martyred means more then what the dictionaries say about it. You’re a Muslim bro you should know the difference between being martyred and being killed.

In Quran, my Allah has said that people that achieve martyrdom never die. They will remain alive till the Day of Judgment but living people can not see them. Imam Hussain was, is, and will always be referred as a Martyred. Bro, I am not telling you that you can not edit in the Bibi Sakina’s (AS) article, but don’t try to change what Shi’a people believe about Hazrat Imam Hussain (AS).

Listen brother i don't care about what other people believe. Others can right whatever they want in the article but as far as the Shi’a section is concerned there will be things written from the point of view of the Shi'as. I mean if others won’t know what Shi’as think about Imam Hussain (AS), then what is the purpose of having a Shi'a section in the article. You know what i am trying to say. I am a Shi’a and as far as my knowledge goes Imam Hussain was, is, and will always be remembered and referred as a martyred not killed or dead person. How many times i have to say that in Islam the difference between being killed and being martyred is so different, that i cannot even tell. If you read the Holy Quran's Surah Al-Bakarah then you are going to understand the difference, where Allah has told the difference between being killed and being martyred.

Bro i don't understand if Shi'as believes that Imam Hussain (AS) was martyred then why are others having problem with it. I mean the Islamic history proves that too. Forget about the Shia point of view, even Sunnis believe that Imam Hussain (AS) was martyred. Bro i swear if u read the surah Al-Bakarah then you are going to understand the difference between being killed and being martyred and after that you are going to tell me that Imam Hussain (AS) and his companions were martyred at the Battle of Karbala not killed. Seriously i am just trying to say what shi'a people believe. We just don't say things about our Mola Imam Hussain (AS) just like that. And the shia section in the article is only for "what shia people think about Hazrat Imam Hussain (AS).

Bro i don't know why you are making a big deal out of it. I am the Shi’a section should only say what Shi’a people believe, right. I am a Shi’a and i know what we believe. We believe that Imam Hussain (AS) and his companions were martyred not killed. I mean i can even get a notice from the mosque saying that. And then if i do that and show it to the WIKIPEDIA officials then they are going to lock the editing section and no one is going to be allowed to making any addition or subtraction. I mean bro i did not change anything accept the Shi’a section in the article. Thank You Salman

[edit] Nelson Frye talk page

Hey Bridemill you seem like a good and rational editor, but I must admit I am somewhat perplexed by this comment- "Curiously, only Moshe appears to be jewish" I see you also said that I have good arguments, but still I feel kinda confused that you would even write it.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 05:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Well in any case, thank you for you kind comments I appreciate it.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | TINC|Talk 11:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for your comments regarding the translation related to the Sathya Sai Baba article. --BostonMA 02:01, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your time and comments, Bridesmill. Sincerely, SSS108 ^talk-email 03:04, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Translationz

Thank you very much. Your translation is quite good. I have no further requests. - Darwinek 17:56, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] on singular they

it seems like a lotta past talk to wade through, but I will if needed. could I possibly get a summary of the aspects of heretofore concensus that casts my edit here as innappropriate? I see what I added as a beefing up and strengthening of the tone that was already there. until I get a sense of the past debate, I will withhold final judgement. in th meantime,

to say

"the debate is tied into" certain questions

is no clearer or stronger than to say

those factors "will be relevant to understanding the phenomenon" until they are addressed.

you directly inspired my changes. on the talk page you said

the reason singular they exists the way it does in modern spoken (and to a large extent written)
English, is because of those aspects.

Again, until I learn the relevant history, I will not re-revert or anything drastic. but, if I end up finding nothing compelling, I shall stick to guns I layed out here.

If you understand what I'm getting at, please come up with compromise version. don't just revert. I'll be around. thanks, Ka-zizzlMc 22:42, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rationales to impeach George W. Bush (2nd nomination)

You are invited to vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rationales to impeach George W. Bush (2nd nomination). All this is is ramblings/blog/rants about Bush. Not encyclopedic, should've been deleted long ago. Happy editing! Morton devonshire 19:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] *** Important - Your input requested ASAP ***

Please see this Wikipedia:Deletion review#Rationales_to_impeach_George_W._Bush.

Merecat 00:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Darkred

While I do think that Darkred has been behaving badly, you have to be careful about suggesting that he "get some help". That could be construed as a personal attack. Yes, an extremely mild one in the light of what he's been throwing at you, but as you saw with the recent Arbcom case, we're held to saintly standards here. This place would be a great training ground for future diplomats. Zora 22:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Now about jewelry

Someday, if I ever get a job and have money, I would like to buy Indian jewelry to go with my saris. BUT ... I can't afford gold and I'm not sure I want to buy gold any longer, after all the revelations about the horrible environmental impact of goldmining.

What I would really like is traditional Indian jewelry re-imagined with ecologically sound metals (anodized stainless steel? aluminum?) in bright colors and complicated shapes, where the value comes from craftsmanship and imagination rather than precious metals. Is that anything you would be interested in doing? Zora 06:14, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that Indian jewelry article is terrible. But I don't know anything about Indian jewelry, really. I go to online jewelry stores and fantasize, but that's about it. I've got a lot of gorgeous, expensive jewelry books on my wish lists at Powell's and Amazon, but no prospect in the near future of being able to afford them.

I make jewelry occasionally, but it's only at the stringing beads level. I do it for myself because the affordable store-boughten stuff is usually so ugly. I look at it and say, "I could do that". So I have some nice necklaces for dress-up.

I also buy "Ornament" magazine occasionally, and drool. Which is funny, because ordinarily I wear a plain T-shirt, plain shorts, and a pair of gold hoops that I haven't taken out in ten years or so. Zora 01:06, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cuba

No, my parents didn't return to Poland after surviving the concentration camps. BTW, my comments were directed to Bruce, who's an American, as I am. 172 | Talk 17:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beaver

I have no clue why beaver seems to get hit by the idiots so often. George Washington does too, despite his having died over 200 years ago.Spikebrennan 19:28, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smiley template

I noticed you liked my smiley idea. Thanks a lot. It is encouraging. I hope more people will smile using them..and help ease bitterness in the community. I just added few more, check them out Template_talk:Smiley  «₪Mÿš†íc₪»  ^(T) 12:13, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Samothrace

Thanks Bridesmill :-) I'll give a look at the issues, to see if I can solve some of them. Bye --Aldux 19:42, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Bashir page

I thank you for whatever you can do. Chaldean 23:09, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I am just swamped

Bridesmill, I am just swamped now. I will provide references as soon as I get free from school; but even without it I think there are enough evidences for that sentence to be referenced.

Have a look at the Battle of the Trench. Jews broke their oath with Muslims by uniting with Meccan Pagans. This war and the consequent wars of Muhammad with Jews is reported in Qur'an ^{[Qur'an 33:9]}. --Aminz 02:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wanted: Ctesiles

Hi! This is about the message you left on fr:Discuter:Esclavage en Grèce antique. Actually, there is probably no Ctesiles: it's a mispelling for the 3rd century-historian Ctesicles (with an extra c). The reference is Athenaeus, VI, 272C (= FrGrHist 245 F1). I'm quite flattered that you're translating my article on slavery in Ancient Greece. If you need any help to clarify a point or two, please let me know. Jastrow 14:09, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

There's a misunderstanding in the "Economic role" section, 3rd §: Xenophon actually speculates that *if* the city was endowed with a large number of state slaves, their leasing *could* assure the upkeep of all the citizens. Jastrow 17:04, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes I know. Aldux already told me and I stopped contributing. Miskin 09:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Christian Naturism

I did request semi-protection this morning, immediately after my latest post on the talk page. =) Powers 15:03, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rachel actress

Hi! I'm very sorry I'm answering you so late. The rachel colour, according to Oxford English Dictionary, is "a light, tannish colour (used orig. and chiefly of face-powder)" which is named after Rachel, the stage-name of Elisa Félix. I don't know exactly why, this all the information the dictionary is giving. According to the same dictionary raschel is "a kind of knitting-machine", from German Raschelmaschine, from the name of the same French actress, reportedly because she wore a garment made with this machine. That's about it. Best wishes! Tavilis 21:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sweet Grass

Sorry I missed the reference but thanks for getting back to me and telling me of the changes. Much appreciated. skorpion 22:30, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

I'd definitely consider reformulating so that the link actually reads "slavery in ancient Greece", and not just "Ancient Greece", as the bolded expression is expected to be the title of the article. Circeus 16:53, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Henri vs Henry Bernstein

Oh, man. I think this is what happened: User:Sheynhertz-Unbayg had requested the article to be translated, but there was probably already an article on Henry Bernstein--not Henri. It seems that s/he assumed they were the same person (see Talk:Henri Bernstein) and made it into a redirect. I should have noticed--but they were both incredibly short articles and all that needed to be translated was the bio (the original English Henri/Henry Bernstein article just listed him as being "A French person"!). Do you know of any way I can undo the redirect? I'll try for a bit but I'm not yet fluent in Wikiese.

I think User:Sheynhertz-Unbayg is part of the Missing Encyclopedia Articles wikiproject, which is why s/he continues to dump loads of short articles on us translators!

Thanks for offering to check on my translations--sometimes I do them when I really ought to be sleeping, and the wording starts to get a bit iffy. And I'll definitely look at your Slavery/Prostitution in ancient Greece articles--those are two topics that aren't covered in basic history classes! Tamarkot 16:46, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Update--turns out they are the same person after all, but the French version had listed different works than the English one. Checked up on imdb and google and merged all the works together. Argh. Evidently I'm still not awake yet! Tamarkot 16:58, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian Forces unification

Yes, the wording is much better now. However, this was an incredibly unpopular move, widely panned and dispised. Hellyer was a near pariah to anyone connected to, or supportive of, the forces. Pearson was prime minister when Hellyer produced his white paper and when the legislation was introduced in the House of Commons. But it seemed to stick to Hellyer more than anyone else. I'm not even sure it would be correct to say "the government and Hellyer." As I recall, it was just Hellyer. It would be nice to have a citation. If it is from a good source, we might even want to make the wording stronger. Sunray 21:39, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Downy wood violet

Flag it as {{db-test}} A passing admin will know what to do... ShakespeareFan00 21:54, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your request

Sorry for my late response, I was very busy and I had a quick look at the page, but was swamped after that so that I actually forgot to reply. I saw that the page is now semi protected, which seems the logical thing in this situation. It always difficult when emotions flare up, and when discussions from outside wikipedia get brought to wikipedia. Anyway, if I still can be of help, please let me know. Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 00:57, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slavery in ancient Greece

Hi Bridesmill. First let me thank you for all the fantastic work you've been doing for bettering the quality of the wikipedia Greek history section: it was much needed! Second, I just wanted to be sure what you preferred best, BC or BCE; for me it's absolutely the same, I only ask because they are both present in the article, and wanted only to use them coherently.--Aldux 14:12, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Borobudur

Yes, that article is unreferenced, and so full of extraneous detail as to be nigh unreadable. I did some pruning. I did it over the course of the day, based on the morning's version. There was an edit conflict and I forced my version. Sorry, but I had just done too much work to start over again. Tomorrow I'll go back and see about incorporating your newer edits. Also, I haven't done any research, really. Instead I've been working on Islamic historiography and the history of Khorezm. I think my head is going to explode. Zora 09:09, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Slavery in ancient Greece, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your efforts on behalf of DYK! Glad we got the hook right... good article! ++Lar: t/c 13:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fun with CltFn

I started an article called Historiography of early Islam in which I listed some of the sources and practitioners of early Islamic history, and discussed some of the academic conflicts in the tradition. I've been tussling over the article with CltFn. After I reversed his reorg, he took another tack and created a new category, Historiographer of early Islam, which he is applying to various historians. I told him that history and historiography are not the same thing and he ignored me. You seem to care about history -- could you have a word with the chap? Zora 17:40, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prostitution in ancient Greece

Hi! The reference is On the Seed/Nature of the child (De semine/natura pueri), a treatise of the Hippocratic Corpus. It was translated in English by Iain M. Lonie. As I found this quotation in Halperin's One Hundred Years of Homosexuality, I can provide you with the English translation:

A kinswoman of mine owned a very valuable singer, who used to go with men. It was important that this girl should not become pregnant and thereby lose her value. Now this girl had heard the sort of thing women say to each others–that when a woman is going to conceive, the seed remains inside her and does not fall out. She digested this information, and kept a watch. one day she noticed that the seed had not come out again. She told her mistress, and the story came to me. When I heard it, I told her to jump up and down, touching her buttocks with her heels at each leap. After she had done this no more than seven times, there was a noise, the seed fell out on the ground, and the girl looked at it in great surprise.

Thanks for your great work of translation. Jastrow 06:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

How could one ever think such a thing...

Aldux 16:49, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Howard Bloom

I thought I'd let you know that the person you commented on here is actually Howard Bloom; I contacted him at his public e-mail address, and I have posted the e-mails. Sophy's Duckling 03:50, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Piet Kramer - Thanks!

Many thanks for looking at this article. Not sure about the copyvio issue. The image of the bridge is from the same source and appears to have copyright released as long as the source is quoted - I'm assuming it's the same for the article? --Mcginnly 15:40, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chronology issues

Hi Bridesmill! I'm not familiar with English chronology and I'm not sure I understand the issues there. I gather the problem is, French historians do not usually consider Minoan and Mycenaean Greece to be a part of "Ancient Greece", while Anglo-Saxon historians do. Am I correct? What does the expression "Classical Greece" refer to in English? Jastrow 08:36, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Hopefully this explains the issue better - we differ in descritpion of start-stop dates for the periods.Bridesmill 16:14, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

There are some difficulties with this timeline. Traditionally, the "époque classique" begins ca. 480 (some historians do prefer 508 because of Clisthenes' reforms). Before that date, the term "Grèce préclassique" is favored: it encompasses the Cycladic civilization, Minoan Greece, Mycenaean Greece, Dark Ages (we do know about them), the "époque archaïque" (8th-6th centuries)—followed by "époque classique", "époque hellénistique" and "Grèce romaine", as mentioned on the chart. Jastrow 17:06, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback about fr:Chronologie_de_la_Grèce_antique, which contradicts fr:Époque archaïque. I guess we should ensure better consistency between our articles

Concerning the chronologies problem, I will ask one of our users, who teaches Greek history at a French university. He should be able to tell us how this issue is addressed in the scholar world. Jastrow 18:34, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Water fluoridation

Thank you for your recent comment at Talk:Water fluoridation. I wonder if you would mind commenting further, as some users are now threatening to skip steps in the dispute resolution process (you are the only user that has come over via Rfc right now). Thanks! - Jersyko·talk 22:26, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On June 1, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article diet of Ancient Greece, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Spangineer^[es] (háblame) 12:22, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Diet of ancient greece

Nice work on the translation! I was just curious whether you know of a list of featured articles at fr that need translation to en, preferably ones that currently have no equivalent at all. Stevage 13:40, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

That was nothing :-) I've noted that the same editor appears to have macin-translated other Ancient Greece articles, related to Sparta; I'll see to clean them up. Ciao!--Aldux 12:47, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Maybe fr:Naumachie, as the English version is just a short stub; but really, you judge. But I also understand your interest for Jastrow's article; only you should consider asking Jastrow if it can be considered ready. Ciao!--Aldux 11:37, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rotary nonsense

Please stop you nonsense on Rotary - I am not sure whether your cat got run over by a Rotarian while you where younger or what got you on this bent, but your comments a. do not make sense, as discussed - I have still to figure out why Rotarians would want to use masonry as a facade - to hide from what? (as but one example) b. are grammatically illegible in many cases - nobody knows what you are trying to say and you refuse to even change a single word of the gibberish. c. you do not seem to be interested in logical discussion; whenever anuyone disagrees with you, you accuse them of being Rotarian puppets and ignore them - that is not the way to move ahead. Please act reasonably; when discussed, dismissed, inaccurate, out of context, and incorrect material is repeatedly restored, that is vandalism and abuse.Bridesmill 22:00, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

You're discussing and COMING NOW, but AFTER blanking large subparts of Rotary wiki. You should do it BEFORE blanking. Second, if you need to change or discuss, you PROPOSE. You pal AndyJones did.You did not propose anything, just insulting me or saying that I had an agenda. So do you up this : give me a personal mail please. Mine is "pierre.larcin@ifrance.com". What does my cat have with that ? You attacked my grammar. Enhance it, do not blank.

You just blanked the part about Rotary contestation of women as members. On which reason please ? You said in the RV comment "as discussed". You blanked WITHOUT discussion.

That's the reason why I will put a claim on wiki against you. Everyone following the history of your changes does understand what you do. You clean what you allow not to exist. It is typical of a faith syndrome. Problem : facts exist : Rotary excluded jews, Rotary members were racists and Rotary was agains women membership UNTIL A SUPREME COURT DECISION. Waow. Excuse me but what is YOUR problem. All these are facts. And you do not know what is the most evident about the Rotarian Internet proselytism (yes, being a Rotarian activist is of course relative to faith as you work more on belief than on facts). Rotary did ANOTHER big and obvious Internet wiki fiddling. Discover that in my claim.. and go back to your Rotarian friends saying: using Wikipedia as a showroom is not more possible.

Best regards, I wait for your mail [if you have any courage] PierreLarcin2 22:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Firstly, can the personal insults. Second, read the ongoing discussion of which I have been part for quite some time. I am not about to edit every single little word you post; if you slip in a little new stuff with the large chunks of rubbish, it is going to get trashed. Your logic is fatally flawed; Almost every oganization in the world excluded women util laws changed, so why pick on Rotary. and in WWII the Nazis did not allow jews anywhere, not like Rotary could do anything about it; if anything yourwords imply they actually tried to counter the Nazi rulings. By your logic, the France page should boldly underscore that all frenchmen are Nazis and Anti-semites because of collusion in WWII. That is also a fact. Yes, I know that it was only a very small number of Frenchmen that fit that bill, but that is exactly the logic you use. If you have the courage to put that fact on the France page, I will stop arguing that your Rotary posts are silly. Bridesmill 22:41, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I do not insult anyone. Please tell me how I insulted anyone, and have the courage to exchange your mail.

All your above text shows that you are against French. There were collusions in France, and I will CERTAINLY do it tomorrow. BUT Rotarians collaborated with Nazis, and the proof of that, is that the founder was in Germany in 1938. He planted a tree. What he did after... mystery. BUT Rotarians excluded women UNTIL the court, as they were not obliged to : they could allow women BEFORE the court judgment. Why didn't they. BUT you laugh with my poor grammar. Ok. I may not be an English-driven real man, I am some under-mensch ? I am SOME FRENCH TRAITOR OR BITCH, aren't. All your say is about hate. I do not. What you did is simply censorship, because you simply blanked BEFORE TALKING.

AND YOU BLANKED A SIMPLE COPY PASTE OF A ROTARIAN HIGH LEVEL MEMBER. I just copied-pasted. Didn't you notice? And I am not silly.

Now stop harassing me. I am not French, I am Belgian, I do not hate Americans as you hate French, I do not hate Muslims as you (probably) hate, etc.

a last word : All the foundation of your hate comes from your communalism. You belong to a community which relies on faith, belief in a particular way of life etc. This spirit is against the Republic. This spirit sends boys to die in another country for values that are not respected in their own country, but in reality for a Rotarian value : money. Your hate is communalist and Rotarian : it destroys the Republic and it is done for money, or the representation you have of money.

These are facts : Rotarian excluded jews. Rotarian use the polio program to promote themselves. Rotarians use Internet and wiki to promote themselves. They did not allow women before late 1990's. AND ALL the politicians they support are ALL conservative, like Pinochet or Dianne Feinstein. SOME of these politicians are event racists.

Do not blame me. I did not mention that 90% of US and Canadian Rotarian executives are white. In a country of non-segregation, this is ... strange. How much women in Rotary executives ? In a country were 55% of the people are women ? Do you know why I did not mention that ? I have no fiable source. But just see pictures. The RI Governor of Botwana was a women... but white. Strange, not ?

I wait for your mail. You know mine. Pierre Larcin

Okay my Bride-sMill. You said "If you have the courage to put that fact on the France page, I will stop arguing that your Rotary posts are silly."

I changed the France page and added most of my knowledge, including antisemitic behaviors. SO WHAT ? I still wait for your eMail. Be courageous. By the way I liked the supern trio you made with the Copenhagen IP, AndyJones and you. Do you think we are stupid on Wikipedia ? PierreLarcin2 18:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I stated " the France page should boldly underscore that all frenchmen are Nazis and Anti-semites because of collusion in WWII. ". You did not do that, nor do I expect you to be that silly; proof of the pudding that your logic for Rotary is fundamentally flawed. Who is "Copenhagen IP?" And Andy and I only ever met here at this article.... When you say 'do you think we are stupid on Wiki", I am very curious here, most of us are active broadly - the only thing you do here is disturb Rotary pages. I'm also not sure what you mean by 'still wait for your email' - I answered you on your page, as you know, in fact, I tried to email you, but you don't have an email registered on wiki - curious. I am not waiting for a response, as this trolling is getting tedious. Just leave WP alone please, unless you are willing to engage in normal wiki behaviour.Bridesmill 19:26, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

The answer is : my contribution are based on data. Yourse are just blanking what i did, and without justifications. My email, again is pierre.larcin@ifrance.com.

You just avoid to mail me normally (you prefer to use wiki anonymous facilities) because there is some danger to link you to rotary. By the Way Dianne Feinstein IS conservative, DESPITE she is registered at the Democratic Party. So what ? Is democratic party on the left ? Serious ? You're kidding ! A last word : remember : I promissed you a claim on wiki : an RfC and an arbitration. So... everyone will be judge about Rotarian activity on wiki ! A last example : the copenhagen IP added something about a communication at the actual RI convention 2006 in Copenhagen, about the virus polio. Did you blank it ? No ! And there is noWhere a justification of tha communication. Did I censure it ? No... Did I blank positive assertions on Rotary ? No... but you blanked negative things. You are... partial and communalist. I hope that wikipedians will give you a serious warning. so... Bye and stop harassing me. It is difficult for me to manage all your changes, and you know it perfectly. PierreLarcin2 19:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

ummm, that's the first time you mentioned you email address. Again, stop accusing me of being Rotarian. I think you need to take some deep breaths.Bridesmill 21:46, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

you should read when I write you. It is just upstairs. Two times at a total.

That's the problem with communalism : the communalist adapt reality to its vision, and he/she does not see the reality anymore. This way, I explain the violence of communalists, -like you-, who want to force people to adopt their "visions", using violence if necessary. So the violence of religious wars, as the war in Irak, both sides. PierreLarcin2 22:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Right. STOP accusing me of being a Rotarian. STOP accusing me of being a 'communalist' STOP accusing me of being willing to take violemnt measures for the ends of some wacko conspiracy. That is VERY clearly WP:NPA.Bridesmill 22:55, 16 June 2006 (UTC).

well the problem is that you ACT as a Rotarian. You next add is "an example of successfull change of the inside". What does it mean for a text if you are NOT a Rotarian ? Which success ? The Rotarian lawyer said '"…[the decision] threatens to force us to take in everyone, like a motel'. Do you think it is an elegant inside success, specially associating women with a motel ? After about three full blanks on my chapters, you are now enhancing them ! And ---'I'---- am violent ? You say ABOVE that I speak of a wacko conspiracy. How can you say that after about ONE MONTH OF SUPPLEMENTARY TEDIOUS WORK that you gave us ? May I know what you did that ? Because of our poor English grammar, we stupid French traitors ? That's it ? And you accused us between the lines, and specially me -mu friend being translator- to hide that French were hiding antisemistic crimes in their history ?

WHY SHOULD WE HIDE THAT A TRIAL WAS NECESSARY FOR WOMEN, THAT SOME FAMOUS ROTARIANS ARE PINOCHET OR HELMS, THAT DIANNE FEINSTEIN IS A REAL CONSERVATIVE, DEEP RIGHT POLITICIAN, AND THAT THE ROTARY USE THE HELP TO SICKNESS IN THE THIRLD WORLD TO PROMOTE CONSERVATIVE POLITICIANS... WITH UNO PUBLIC FUNDS ?

What a world ! All that work just because people want to hide facts, as a religion ! PierreLarcin2 23:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:NPA

I might have overreacted, on the Dutch fight against water, and I apologize if I offended you in any way. Nevertheless you use of English on that particular page was confusing at best.It was not the choice of vocabulary, but the way of writing that triggered that reply.

Rex Germanus Tesi samanunga is edele unde scona 11:20, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Your friendly reply on Rex' talk page mentioned your fellow countryman and yourself being "cheeseheads (who are not always as tolerant as the rest of the world assumes) ". – The Bard's Hamlet: There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy, Like SomeHuman in a less humane mood 2006-06-15 19:05 (UTC)

[edit] Honor the Light Brigade

Hi! As I said, I have found some pictures of riders. Unfortunately, they all suffer from heavy bluish reflections due to the mix of natural light and tungsten light. *sigh* Jastrow 10:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Attic hydria, warrior's departure	Attic amphora, same subject	Neck-amphora (from Auboea or Chalcidia), runner and riders	Amphora, riders
Cup by Euphronios, rider	An Attic horse, ca. 500 BC	A Lakonian horse, 8th century BC

[edit] "Minor" edits

Hiya, I noticed you deleted the majority of the Pinafore eroticism article in a series of edits all marked as minor. I took a look at your contributions and get the feeling you have a "mark all edits as minor" default set in your preferences. You might want to unset that, or take the time to de-select "mark as minor" when making large scale deletions. Best Regards, Pete.Hurd 15:29, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bridesmill lies and destructions on Rotary International

Bridesmill, you can blank as far as you want, it does not change anything to facts.

About wiki, you know, I am not really afraid they will take your arguments as relevant... Another fact ? We do not know what did the founder, Paul Harris, between 1938 and 1946. Why ? Strange.

Another thing is : You do not use the same system for "positive" thing on wiki. Many things are not verifiable, but you leave them. You are partial and you give me pain. You give us pain because you do not respect the truth.

You give us pain You give us pain You give us painYou give us painYou give us painYou give us painYou give us painYou give us painYou give us painYou give us painYou give us painYou give us painYou give us painYou give us painYou give us painYou give us painYou give us painYou give us painYou give us pain.

That all what you conservatives are able to do. Pay weapons, hide truth and give pain. And we do not like that. Go away. PierreLarcin2 19:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SO CALLED FEMALE MEMBERSHIP who was in the truth WOMEN SEGREGATION IN ROTARY

Stop wikipedia fiddling. If females are just members like others in the Rotary, there is no reason to add a distinct paragraph for women. An equilibrated way ? If you place a section "female membership" then you should place a section "male membership". But you can't :-) It is simply impossible : all Famous Rotarians are men !(exept Dianne Feinstein, but... ;-)

Plus you completely fade to grey the aspect of Inner Wheel . We have things to add about Innner Wheel and what you do is to impeach that by continuous reverts. Let us do our work, which is just mention of facts, and stop your Wikipedia fiddling : women WERE NOT welcome in Rotary until years 1970. Strange for a "serving community" club. But you do not answer to that, do you ? With a "profile of Mensanean"....

You are CERTAINLY rotarian or pro-rotarian. And your duo with SuperNova is interesting. Just interesting for our community.

Why don't you admit ? We are her both against-Rotary, WE SAY IT, BUT I DO NOT BLANK OR ALTER POSITIVE FACTS ABOUT ROTARY. 84.102.229.124 07:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC) PierreLarcin2 07:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

And above all : you are racist against French. You said that in your above critics. That's the first step to war. You should be ashamed to speak about Mensa in your profile You GIVE US PAIN. Stop continous reverts.

84.102.229.124 07:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC) PierreLarcin2 07:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smiley box

Hi Bridesmill, In case you haven't seen it, I thought you might be interested in this Smiley box. Regards, Rfrisbie^talk 18:27, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfC issued on Rotary International

What does "despite for example, there were allowed to vote in France in Belgium in 1921 only" mean? and why was it placed in there with a {fact} tag? I am assuming you invented that after my comment on suffrage in Belgium, which has nothing to do with RI. And why do you insist on re-inserting bogus quotes? And why are we talking about cultural habits in other parts of the world that RI (may) happen to follow there, without mentioning that this is a cultural norm? And once again, what do you have against RI?Bridesmill 19:01, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

We work here on an International movement Bridesmill. And a movement which defines itself as philanthropic. All facts show that is a public-relations club who supports only conservative actions. The proximity of extreme-right or racism, whose Rotary sustained notable members by its program of "Honorary Rotarians" shows it.

Plus what they DID about the Famous Rotarians... that they changed AFTER the wiki sourcing of the URL where all Famous Rotarians were, included Pinochet. As you did : you moved Pinochet in the alphabetical list, they removed Pinochet from the URL and they placed a second page with only the Honorary Famous.

It was humor Bridesmill. You placed fact tag on our edits immediately, asking for sources but never sourced positive addings (the International Congress by Bruce?? speech on Polio these days) but always put on ourse, and you and Supernova (you never restaured what she illegally withdrawed) ever withdrawed what was not IMMEDIATELY sourced.

We know perfectly that all that fiddling is justified by this International Congress held in june 12-14 ? in Copenhagen. Of course Internet was a subject there, no doubt. And of course, as Rotary goes to schools, as year ends, of course scholars need to read "soften" wiki on Rotary, isn't it ?

Now it is over Bridesmill. We just put a Wiki Request for Comments about all this, a few minutes ago. We spent more that 30 minutes today to find out what you Bridesmill and SuperNova blanked since one day. We have no time for that AND it is difficult for both of us to retrieve info, take care of what was added [we do not censure], and replace what you faded, truncated or changed, smoothed. We have plenty of source facts, questions, etc, and we hope that the community will help us to put light onto this. The official claim for arbitration against Rotary wiki fiddling will be put in a few hours. Salutations, PierreLarcin2 20:01, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Our salutations also to you, SuperNova, who are probably a "RotaryStudentExchange" or a "Rotary ambassadorial" student. PierreLarcin2 20:03, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Dear Bridesmill, we LOVED your last trick : modifying our RfC. You're...a genius, don't you think so ? We are not sure Arbitration will love that.

Specially we DO NOT appreciate that you modified OUR text WITHOUT warning us.

Thank you also for the "Rotarian plot parano" image glued onto our face. We love. Two remarks - related to the recent RI congress in Copenhagen-Malmo, what does the Sweden flag onto the part "must go to" on your spouse personal page ? So you're not pro-Rotarian hé ? - ... because YOU BridesMill spoke about a plot when altering our RfC : we have a very bizarre idea of what a "organized official information agency" can make with such a HUGE amount of pictures and professional bios of Rotarian people registered around the world. Rotarians fill personal forms no ? Some rotarians should maybe be amazed that they have an "alias" doing dirty trick elsewhere in the world, no ? You do not see ? With all the langages you speak, including russian, you never read spy stories ? Salutations PierreLarcin2 21:11, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Translations

Your translation of Naumachia is excellent. I have had it on my mental "must improve" list for ages.

Anyway, this second triumph on the back of diet of Ancient Greece deserves some recognition: you are unofficially my hero, and here is a gold star. (This is an occasional personal award; apologies if presenting you with an ex-Soviet honour causes any offence).

Well done. Keep up the good work. -- ALoan (Talk) 11:28, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree; fantastic work, like always ;-)--Aldux 12:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh good :) (Some people are offended at being given Russian medals; others think it demeans the real recipients of real medals to pretend to give them out online.) -- ALoan (Talk) 13:41, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

That is why I chose it (some people have used the Purple Heart...) "Hero of Socialist Labor" has a ring to it :) -- ALoan (Talk) 14:01, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Infobox Military Conflict

Replied on the template talk page. :-) Kirill Lokshin 16:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Economy of Ancient Greece

Thanks! --Alex S 02:23, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plato

Hi Bridesmill. I've just put a new article on the translations list, but don't be afraid, it's not a not-so-subtle attempt to make you translate it , just seeing if I can find other editors interested. It seems to be partly working: Alex S made a nice work with Economy of Ancient Greece. Ah yes, and my compliments again for Naumachia! --Aldux 11:43, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I think I can pardon you

. Thanks!--Aldux 14:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Once again, for yet another time, thanks; the amount of work you've been doing is simply fantastic!

--Aldux 11:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your article, Naumachia, was selected for DYK!

On June 24, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Naumachia, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! ++Lar: t/c 14:15, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jacob Luitjens

Thanks for letting me know the translation is done. --Mathew5000 02:51, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] KLM

• Thanks a lot for the small Delftware houses image. Hektor 09:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anal Bleaching

Hello,

I am one of the pioneers of this subject and actually invented and sell anal bleaching products. So it is real and I would like to discuss with you the best way to update information on this site without being classified as spamming. I wrote the original article on Crappers Quarterly. There is important information on this topic that needs to be understood. Your information on hydroquinone is dangerous. Nobody should use hydroquinone on their anus or genital areas. I think my company information and the other information I posted is very relevant to this topic but I want to conform to the rules of the site.

Please feel free to contact me offline at info@southbeachskinsolutions.com. Thank you.

Bill

See answer at talk:Anal bleaching. Bridesmill 16:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Date links

Sigh. This has been a dispute going on for a while. Basically, for the first three years of the project, internal links to articles on individual years were linked from other articles where that year was mentioned. They were useful for placing events in the context of their broader society, and were often used in browsing by myself and many others. Then one obsessive user with a bot decided he hated them, and proceeded to spend every single day expunging as many as possible, and a couple more jumped on the bandwagon. We then had a lengthy discussion about it, with the ultimate result being that a) there really isn't much consensus on the topic, and b) automated date removal is bad. Everyone else who was delinking thus stopped - except for the user at the heart of all of this, who didn't even bother to participate at all, but just fired up his bot again after it was all over. And that's basically where we are today. Every couple of months, he thinks people will have forgotten about the issue, fires up his bot, gets reverted and yelled at, and stops again. Rebecca 00:16, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Geostatistics

Thanks for contributing to this article. SCmurky 23:21, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Is this of any help? its al-Sistanis own page. --Striver 01:09, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ancient Slavery

It is quite unintentional. Please strike out whatever seems condescending, and I will rephrase. (If you mean "LSJ", I apologize; it's hard to tell when an odd usage is a genuine mistake, taking LSJ for one person's initials; rather than he = Jones.) Septentrionalis 21:56, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hand puppet

I was about to remove all those commercial links, but wasn't sure. Guess I was right seeing as you did it before me. Nice.--Andeh 07:09, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm guessing you were on RC patrol when you spotted it. Yes, if there's one commercial link every other company feels they need to have their website on there.--Andeh 07:17, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of railroads with a nickname ending in "Road"

This is obviously not a speedy; why did you mark it as one? --SPUI (T - C) 07:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

You're wrong - there's nothing wrong with removing a clearly-inappropriate speedy tag. --SPUI (T - C) 07:17, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

PROD tags are meant to be removed if anyone disagrees - that's the idea of PROD! --SPUI (T - C) 07:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jewellery

It's only a rule of thumb, but two weeks is usually considered the minumum decent time before resubmitting. Obviously, far more important than sticking to a timetable is improving the article and making sure any old objections are firmly dealt with. Good luck! —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:29, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

PS also note Featured Article Director Raul654's response to the question on my page. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:35, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Angelica

Thanks for that -- it wasn't easy to find. I'm working at a new article, Shou Wu Chih, and it's very hard to deal with the various herbal species names as they are presented in mangled form. I've got most of them sorted out now but maybe you could take a look and see what you think. There are two separate lists of ingredients that appear online, which are slightly different, and I'm working to reconcile them. Badagnani 00:27, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gregorian chant

I'm sorry; I didn't mean to be condescending. I am trying to be accurate, to the best of my ability. As for "mixing metaphors," I can only say that the major sources (Apel, Hiley, the Grove) all refer to "B-flat" despite its anachronism. I certainly don't think it's "my" article; Antandrus, Makemi, and MarkBuckles have all contributed to it. Please don't let my personal failings get in the way of improving the article, which I hope we can achieve by discussion rather than hostility. If I've been rude, I apologize. I wouldn't worry about FA status, though, since it's pretty obvious it's going to fail. I'm just not up to Tony's standards. Peirigill 03:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On July 6, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hippias major, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

[edit] Merci beaucoup !

C'est la première fois que l'un de mes articles fait l'objet d'une traduction, et j'en suis très fier ! (d'autant plus que j'ai moi-même traduit beaucoup d'articles anglais) Merci donc pour ce beau travail. J'ai l'intention de traduire ton très intéressant ajout sur l'authenticité du dialogue aussi vite que possible.

Cordialement, Manchot sanguinaire, July 7th 2006

[edit] Request for advice

Could you take a look at the Shockwave (roller coaster) article? I was drawn to this article by a request for help on Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance) (see the section titled "Is this vandalism?")

I am flummoxed by this anon editor who keeps reverting to a version of the article that has a {{fact}} tag after practically every sentence. I would like to find a way to resolve this issue peaceably and in an Esperanza-like way. Unfortunately, I've been busy and all I've had time to do is to revert the anon editor's reverts. Other editors (registered and anon) have also done the same which has helped me to avoid a revert war with this anon editor. However, this is not resolving the issue except possibly by exhausting the anon editor. There must be a better way.

I was favorably impressed by your comments about the Breendonk article and would appreciate your perspective on my current dilemma. Thanks.

--Richard 08:44, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pella

Hi Bridesmill, it seems I was not the only one a bit puzzled by the existence of both Pella and History of Pella; I've seen your messages on the talks. I instead sent a message to User:Wetman, the creator of History of Pella; after some discussion at User_talk:Wetman#Pella he has agreed that a merge among Pella and History of Pella wouldn't be a wrong idea. Pella Prefecture instead should better remain on its own. Opinions? (and thanks! ).--Aldux 12:33, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, I don't have hided weapons under my sleeve; and I find a great idea the translation of fr:Pella.

BTW, have you seen Amphipolis; at the end it has found a translator! I've also found another translator, User:Yom, that has started translating the featured article fr:Époque hellénistique. So everything is going on quite well. --Aldux 01:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

And thanks for voting me! I'm an admin now! :-)--Aldux 13:06, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese herbology

Yes, I've been trying to root out old Latin names/synonyms and have already found a few. The work shows me how many species (and even genii) still have no representation at Wikipedia -- there's a lot of work yet to be done. Badagnani 19:01, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The so-called need for Aldux to block me about Lindbergh, P.Bush and Rotary

Aldux, If you want to block me, do it now.

As far as I know, I have placed conferencemakers on the wiki MYSELF, restored two time and that's your friend BridesMill who blanked that three times WITHOUT ANY JUSTIFICATION. HE needs to be blocked.

About the proximity between Rotarians Lindbergh and Prescott Bush and the nazi theses, there is absolutely nothing in the talk page. So WHAT ?? Place it here, so I can answer. If nothing between two days -clock in the hand-, I replace the both phrases. PierreLarcin2 16:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Bridesmill, explain here CLEARLY what you talked : "I had deleted that way back in june - but with cause as explained above." BTW - the source for their membership is probably the Rotary site itself isn't it? I wouldn't call that 'manipulating the internet to hide the truth'. For Christ'sake where did you see that phrase under my pen about proximity between rotarians P. Bush and Rotarian Lindbergh ? PierreLarcin2 16:59, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The blanking of Rotarian Conferencemakers by BridesMill- Polemic

Please explain me WHAT I have to refute. SO I WILL BE ABLE CAN DO IT. But for the moment I dunnot know what I need to refute. Place it here clearly.

If nothing between two days -clock in the hand-, I replace the whole phrases. PierreLarcin2 16:59, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reverts

You're on your third revert; please read the talk page, explain succinctly why you feel this is valid if you want it there - I have explained there why it is not, you have said nothing about this, which leads me to believe you have no grounds for disagreeing with me.Bridesmill 16:35, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

It is not my third revert, it is your fourth blanking on the list of famous conferencemakers I have placed four times on the Rotary International wiki.

I am maybe blind, but I do not SEE where and how you (so-called?) "explained there why it is not". Would you ve so kind to re-explain them ?? :-) My arguments are simple : these guys are placed on Internet as people who gave conferences in front of Rotary clubs in the world. You said "have no grounds for disagreeing with me." Well I DISAGREE with you blanked four times that as for the moment 1/ you gave no reasons to blank that 2/ that's info on people giving conferences in front and of course with the agreement of the Rotary. If you find other Famous conferencemakers, feel free to add them. PierreLarcin2 17:06, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gay, Lesbian and Asian tolerance clues in Rotary International

THIS CHAPTER WAS BLANKED BY BRIDESMILL. WE NEED AND ANSWER ON THAT FOR THE MOMEN. PierreLarcin2 14:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

- Dear BridesMill - - 01:42, 15 July 2006 you have edited the Rotary wiki to add - this - - *** Minority membership **** - - While formerly a "bastion...of the straight male world". Rotary and other service clubs in the last decade of the 20th century became open to gay and lesbian membership.^[1] Other minorities, in the face of general changes in demographics and declining membership, are also encouraged to join, but these demographics show little interest in spite of efforts to reach out to minority communities; such as Oakland California's $10,000 scholarships for students in inner-city schools^[2]. There have been some individual exceptins; as early as 1963 a Hindu Bengali, Nitish Chandra Laharry, served as Rotary International's first Asian president^[3]. The past tendency to favor the "old boys club" has also passed; so it is no longer just legislation or membership pressures driving these trends; according to Fost, only 2% of middle aged men interested in joning a club were interested in joining exclusive male-only clubs. - ********************************** - You Bridesmill based these clues on the following bibliography references - - # ^ Quittner, Jeremy. "Join the Club." Advocate, 4/16/2002, Issue 861 - # ^ Fost Dan. "Farewell to the Lodge." American Demographics January 1996, Vol. 18, Issue 18 (NOTE THAT YOU DO NOT GIVE THE PAGE REFERENCE) - # ^ Bird,, John "The Wonderful, Wide, Backslapping World Of Rotary." Saturday Evening Post 2/9/1963, Vol. 236 Issue 5, p59 - ********************************** - My problem is that I have a speech of Pinochet at the Santiago Rotary Club, - plus a scientific reading here of 800 pages, which show that Rotary is not EXACTLY - open to gays. - - As I do not find any clue of these readings on my Google, I have a few questions : - * 1/ what tool did you use to find these references - * 2/ where on Internet may we check these references - * 3/ if possible, I would like you to send me a copy of these articles and will pay for that. - * 4/ it is precised, reference by reference, that the author is a Rotarian, or not. - As you may read above, the problem is that only Rotary speaks over Rotary so we have a deep risk of Wikipedia fiddling ! - - If you do not answer within two days, I will suppress the references and addings you did, as not sourced. - * And of course we will discuss that in front of the Arbitration Committee ;-) - I suppose that you have the same interest as me that Wikipedia is not a showroom for the Rotary. - - Thank you, - best regards, - PierreLarcin2 08:09, 16 July 2006 (UTC) - - == Famous Conferencemakers in the Rotary - Blanking by Bridesmill == - - Bridesmill, you have four times blanked the following list -that we built and made after reserarches on Internet - and you did it without any explanations. You did that on : - * 14 JUN 16:19 - * 15 JUL 16:00 - * 15 JUL 16:10 - * 15 JUL 16:33 - - Famous conferencemakers at the Rotary - * Augusto Pinochet, member of the Rotary club of Santiago, Chile - * Joseph Davidovits, Docteur es Science, "father of the theory of false stones" about building of the egyption ancient pyramids (Rotary Club Liège, BE) - * Louis Michel, Belgian European Commissary (Rotary Club Wezembeek-Kraainem, BE) - * Charles Pasqua, former French Minister of Police, involved in weapons and Saddam iraki petrol scandals (Rotary Club Neuilly, FR) - * Ron Hubbard, founder of the Scientology (Rotary ex-Rhodésia, Zimbabwe) - * Wernher von Braun, ex-major of the nazi SS, father of V1, V2, Titan II missile and Saturn rockets for the NASA (Rotary Club Huntsville, Alabama, USA) - - Please would you clarify hereunder why you blanked that list - Without valid reason of your behavior within 24 hours, I will restore that for the FIFTH time on the - wiki on Rotary. - PierreLarcin2 10:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] still not answering on BridesMill blanking on Rotarian conferencemakers list

PL, Please READ what I have written. The sources are pointed out, as is the logic and the flaws in your logic. Respond to this, discuss it, but please don't ignore it. And again, please don't cross-post to my Usertalk page - I am more than capable of reading this here.Bridesmill 14:14, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

And erhaps you could share with us the source of this 800 page academic work, as I have not been able to locate any academic works approaching that size about any service clubs. The point on Pinochet's speech has been made above; politicians make speeches everywhere, sometimes those speeches do not reflect their party, or the group they are speeaking to. And this speech was made some time ago, no? I noted " formerly a "bastion...of the straight male world". " as well as past tendency to favor the "old boys club" - I believe that properly provides context for where this club came from? Bridesmill 14:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

• ****Enough******
• Could an admin kindly look into these activities with a look to blocking permanently this
• individual? Misreading of quotes, manipulation of qotes, repeated bias, refusal to read or
• acknowledge the responses of other editors, WP:NPA on numerous grounds, refusal to accept cited
• references even though te editor was advised the source of these references (I believe I *
• mentioned JSTORS & EBSCOHOST several times, the documents cited are available in most
• respectable libraries). The list goes on, I am getting
• frustrated...Bridesmill 14:14, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

My source are verifiable. Yours are not as I and others may not access to that. I want that wiki community be able to check if these pro-rotarian texts were, or not, written by Rotarians. We may not admit that Rotary writes on Rotary on wiki. Again, this is not a showroom

The main problem is Rotary fiddling over Rotary wiki. Or not.

• Again, you do not answer to the question : why did you blanked the conferencemakers list ?

You do not translate "dictablanda", you speak of bias and non-sourced (despite all my adding are sourced and verifiable), but you leave non-sources facts (speech by Rotarian over polio) when they are pro-Rotary. And you use a bia : now again, you ask to block me. On which base ? I did not blank anything.... So, again, BE SO KIND TO ANSWER TO THIS SIMPLE QUESTION : why did you blanked four times the Famous Conferencemakers (with Ron Hubbard, now Pinochet and Wernher von Braun). I checked this whole mess you did (usually you "derive" the conversation... we come from grammar to contexts; from segregation to controversy, you change the order of phrases to smooth Rotary past.., here we come to a simple args request to a bia for blocking...) Do not hesitate to use copy paste : I really want to know your justifcations for blanking this list. Be kind ! Waste time ! Say us WHY ! Answer simply ! Thank you very much ! PierreLarcin2 14:38, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'STOP BEING OBSTINATE

I don't know how many times and in how many ways I have explained that such a list is cherry-picking, wholly inapropriate, and in many cases logically flawed (attributional bias etc). One reason, one solid reason is all it needs not to be there. Now who is talking about blanking and modifying Talk pages? You, Sir, need to go away for a few days.Bridesmill 14:44, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I did not blank any TalkPage.

• 1/ On Rotary International, I placed another way, a bit at the right side, to keep your "blocking request against me" apart and keep the thread : my question : give your args for blanking the list of Rotary conferencemakers. Indeed you bia "we speak about the blanking, I do not answer to the question, I ask you to block that guy".
• About the main question (four times you blanked the list of conferencemakers), you still do not answer. Inappropriate is not an argument. It is your POV. Where do you see bias ? Conference is done by invitation so of course that Rotarian knows who is giving the conference. "it needs not to be there", again, is POV and not an argument.

• 2/ On YOUR talk page, I RESTORED MY QUESTION ABOUT YOUR SOURCE ON SO CALLED TOLERANCE ON GAY MINORITIES AND "COLOUR" (read "non white") IN THE ROTARY. you blanked that also, as this question was a problem for you. Please keep it : it is a question I need an answer : I would like you to say un where we can check
• 1 what you placed : Rotary should recognize sexual or race minorities? Is is true ? May we check the text ?
• 2 that these pro-rotary texts are, whether or not, written by Rotarians.

The main point is again, that Rotary or pro-Rotary do not write things on Rotary and give themselves the role of judges on what MAY or not BE WRITTEN on the Rotary wiki. As indeed Rotarians come on the Rotary wiki. Of course. We are not a propaganda media. PierreLarcin2 15:04, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Stop modifying this page to hide remarks and requests. You have not even told us what this verifiable source is. All of the sources currently there are WP:V; go to a library.Bridesmill 14:48, 16 July 2006 (UTC) I note that I have forgotten a page reference (although I am the only editor to have provided these in the first place) I will remedy that immeiately. Stop vandalising my userpage, please.Bridesmill 14:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I did not vandalize at all your userpage. I did not hide remarks and request.

You did it and you alone, hiding my question on your talk page as I want to know if 1/ 2/ we may check your source saying 'Rotary is gay tolerant' 3/ we may check your source saying "Rotary speaking women changed life of women in these countries". You still not say what it change, where, who spoke and if the source was Rotarian. As usual, you play with our feet.

I and only I remarked that a reference of yours, was not paged. Again you play with our feet. Second you claim that you are first to document, but it has been THREE MONTHES THAT YOU EDIT-WAR, without any source, and all my addings were sourced, and Interned checkable sourced. YOUR documents MAY not be checked. I ASK YOU THE WAY TO CHECK THAT. WERE DID YOU FIND THAT. HOW CAN WIKIPEDIANS CHECK THAT.

• Last, I do not have to give my source, as I still not used that on wiki. AGAIN, you play with my feet, playing like an boy in a school ('well I am first') just to bring that on the personal ground and claim "hey he attacks me personnally".

Again your addings on so-called gay tolerance and asian tolerance in Rotary are still not verifiable and sourced. If you do not give us a way to check, I will remove all your propaganda within a day. Be warned on that. PierreLarcin2 15:38, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

OKay, let's stop your game. First, your last chapter will be removed by me and splitted

by me into the appropriate chapters : Phrase on Evening post in sourcing, phrase on MAnn in Mann chapter, TRY ALSO NOT TO INSULT ME like "shut up" "or put up". Thank you.

• 1/ You use personal attacks [saying that I do not original research and that Mann is a token for me], and as usual you do not answer to the question : how by Christ can we verigy ONLINE your sources ? And you mix that with questions of Thomas mann, My academic document. This whole messy approach is completely opposite to what I can wait from a self called Mensanean. Be scientific.

• 2/ We will stop your way to mix all. So I warn you : you transformed this Talk in a whole mess with your war. The above Bridesmill chapter will be removed by me. You place your comments into the appropriate chapters. For example you have a chapter above for Mann. Place your comments into this. and I will open a chapter for sourcing, including mine.

• 3/ please answer clearly to the question of blanking conferencemakers. You still did not.

• 4/ I want to request a mediation for introducting the following chapters : Internet activities of Rotarians, support from Rotary to conservative politicians, the perception of Pinochet in an out the Rotary, the segregation (or not) of women by the Rotary, segregation of minorities in the Rotarian executives, a list of persons who gave and give conferences to the Rotary, the use of Thomas mann as a token for Rotary [I do not understand the word token but you used it, so I place that word].

I want to have a mediation also on the checkable sources about the Rotary, including my doctoral these and yourse, of course. This verifiability is a condition for the Arbitration we try plan here to ask on the use of Wikipedia by the Rotary.

• DO YOU AGREE ON THAT MEDIATION Bridesmill ?
• Without clear answer "yes I accept a mediation", we consider here you say "no"
• Answer clearly AT THE ROTARY TALK PAGE. Thank you PierreLarcin2 19:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The pics

Give me ur e-mail address and i will send them to you.--Salman 01:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finally

Hi,

Agreed on the linking page to types of jewellery. I cannot now change the title to just sex jewellery from adult/sex jewellery- any suggestions?

[edit] Thanks

Many thanks for the requested changes. I would like to include an image for clarity. I was not sure how to copyright the material I obtained as I wrote to the owner of a particular site for permission to use images from that site. Is it therefore possible to include an image?

[edit] ok then

Right, thanks for the info I will get on that. hope I got the sig right! Joobles 15:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Holy...

I just stumbled into the latest flareup at Rotary International (been monitoring since I discovered it at some point, thought it had quieted down). I think you're in for the long haul on that one. I'd suggest you get some more experienced eyes on the article, possibly by posting a request on the Admin's Notebook page (looks like one admin's dropped in already, but a few more couldn't hurt), and look into semi-formal or formal mediation if that doesn't work. I think your friend there could benefit from a user-conduct RFC too... Good luck with it. Tony Fox (speak) 16:23, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem. The reason I suggest someone else consider conflict resolution is I'm not sure the other user quite gets how it works. He's talked about mediation and arbitration and things, but there's no sign of either one taking place. At any rate, I'll be watching with some level of head-shaking amusement. Tony Fox (speak) 17:24, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RFC

Are you planning a RFC user-conduct review or are you planning a RFC content dispute review? They are very diffrent and have very diffrent aims. ---J.S (t|c) 01:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll sign then. ---J.S (t|c) 20:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rotary RFC

Yes, I'd be willing to sign on. I think the circus has gone on long enough. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. --SuperNova |T|C| 05:05, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:List of Ontario provincial highways

I've responded, if you'd like to continue the discussion. --SPUI (T - C) 12:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson continues to replace "King's Highway" with "controlled-access highway". If you don't mind, can you please let him know that he's wrong? --SPUI (T - C) 14:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

I have replied on my talk page. Lcarsdata (Talk) 14:17, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks (again)

Thanks once again (what is it, the tenth time I find myself thanking you? ), even if it wasn't a perfidious plan to make you work once more (even if I must admit I did start that way....). Ah, and another thing; I've seen you're considering a RfC for our French friend, know that I also am willing to sign. In the meanwhile take this; for nobody it's more indicated. Ciao,--Aldux 13:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pella

Hi Bridesmill, I'm afraid I don't understand the expression used in the article. I'll ask the author about it.

I found some interesting glassware by Gallé & co at the Musée du Petit-Palais. I took some pictures, I'll let you know you when they are uploaded on Commons. Jastrow 10:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

You can find them in Commons:Category:Emile Gallé. There are only four pictures as of now, but I'll go back to the musem later. It's pouring over Paris right now :-( Jastrow 14:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

B: Could you comment on the new proposal for East Sea, I saw that you had been there earlier today. Maybe its another falsestart but who knows. Tortfeasor 02:49, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hellenistic Art

I noticed you had said you would work on the Hellenistic Art entry ... Not knowing the proper way of going about it... I began a translation at Hellenistic Art/Translation sandbox. I have the first few paragraphs completed, some of the links etc. --Jon Cates 01:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC) Sandbox has been moved to User:Coppertwig/Hellenistic Art translation sandbox. Coppertwig 18:57, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anthropology wikiproject

I thought you might be interested in helping me set up a wikiproject for anthropology. If so, could you sign up at our entry on the list of proposed projects, and on the temporary project page? Thanks. Ungovernable Force^{The Wiki Kitchen!} 20:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jewellery

I just wanted to thank extremely for all your valuable work on the Jewellery article. In my absence of editing on the article, you have made leaps & bounds towards getting it to FAC. My nomination to get it into Version 0.5 went through & it is now an A-class. Without your help it would still be only half complete. In response to all this, I have now nominated the article again, as I think with I can deal with any further objections unlike last time. Hope you can support. :) Thanks a bunch! Spawn Man 11:07, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

[edit] User:PierreLarcin

I noticed you already had a discussion with PierreLarcin on the Rotary International page. I draw your attention to the fact that an arbitrage has been opened concerning this contributor here. Feel free to bring your contribution to the case. Best regards --Bombastus 22:55, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Cardinal flower20010810.PNG

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Richard001 07:16, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New meetup in Toronto

Hi, I am organizing a new meetup in Toronto where it will be more convinent for everyone than the current one. Please provide suggestions and feedbacks on the talk page. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 16:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Portal:War - 26 Oct anniversaries

I just checked Ludendorff's memoirs (Ludendorff's Own Story, August 1914-November 1918); he writes that he had prepared a letter of resignation on the morning of the 26th; changed his mind after discussing the matter with von Hindenburg; was then informed that the Kaiser had dismissed him at the urging of the Cabinet; was then called in for an audience with the Kaiser; and there tendered his resignation.

So the date is accurate, but the description may be somewhat over-simplified. Kirill 02:50, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] lineage and descent

Replied there, let me know if you have any questions, Slrubenstein | Talk 02:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Engagement ring

Is it worn on the right hand or the left hand? What's the majority practice? Can we say that it's worn on the right hand, but on the left hand "in certain countries"? It's unbalanced in that it assumes the left hand is the default. StAnselm 05:49, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In Remembrance...

--nat ^{Alo! Salut! Sunt eu, un haiduc?!?!} 01:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Grammar Nazi

Hi. You were one of the editors discussing whether or not the article grammar nazi would qualify for a move to Wikitionary or its deletion. I made a proposal in the article's discussion if you're interested in participating. --76.214.226.199 05:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Brocquy_A_Family.jpg

Late response to your question. First, I did leave a comment to the original uploader of that image stating it is a possibly unfree. Since you were not the uploader, I of course left no message on your talk. User:Claude2 was the uploader, you can see the message here. To answer your question.
Wikipedia needs some proof that the copyright holder released those images under a free content license. Unfortunately we have many people uploading pictures they say we can use, and later discover that they are clearly copyvio's. If you have permission of the copyright holder, please send this to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org after which the image will be tagged accordingly. See also Wikipedia:OTRS. Hope this helps, Garion96 (talk) 19:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beaver paws

The caption of your Image:Beavertracks.JPG says that the hind tracks of the beaver are 20 cm long. Is that really possible? The paws of a beaver are surely not that big? --IronChris | (talk) 20:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)