Talk:Britney Spears discography/Album Sales

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Contents 1 Britney Spears' albums (sales) 1.1 Albums 1.2 Britney's Brazilian and Japanese Sales for In The Zone 1.3 Britney's album sales 1.4 Holla Back? Why do silly fans lie about sales, britney albums have sold a lot but as much as below, where is the internet for these sales please 1.5 Britney's Brazilian and Japanese Sales for In The Zone 1.6 "Britney" sales certification 1.7 "Oops... I Did It Again" sales certification 1.8 "...Baby One More Time" sales 1.9 "B in the Mix: The Remixes 1.10 Reverting sales numbers and image changes 1.11 Discography 1.12 Certifications "In the Zone" 1.13 Rumored albums 1.14 Britney Has Sold 85 Million Albums 1.15 Britney's U.S. Sales according to USA Today 1.16 INFLATED ALBUM SALES 2 Britney Spears' singles 2.1 When Your Eyes Say It 2.2 Unreleased/ unconfirmed songs moved 2.3 Where's source's to the promo singles and special releases 3 Please can we get a reliable Source 4 This page need to be LOCKED 5 THERE IS NOT ONE SOURCE 6 Please find a solution to the mess 7 Britney Has Sold 86 Million Albums Worldwide!!!!!!!!!why do some of you dought about it???? 8 Remove Album Sales 9 Album Sales - discussion 10 So off! 11 Album Sales 12 Sales????????? 13 Album Sales Results 14 wow this is completely wrong 15 wow this is completely wrong

Britney Spears' albums (sales)

Someone is making up random numbers. The person says that Britney's album sold 14.7 mill, but Soundscan said it sold 10.5 mill and went 14x platinum. We need to block him cos he's jacked up Britney sales. I wouldn't be surprises if it stated that her debut sold 50 mill a few weeks from now. You are rational thinker too!

I'm the same person who wrote the one above about her real album sales, but thanks! So are you! Phoenix V

Albums

Britney's Brazilian and Japanese Sales for In The Zone

Brazil:

'In The Zone' Certified Diamond In Brazil Britney Spears' 'In The Zone' is back to Brazilian's Top 40 CD Sales again this week (#37), and now 'Hot100Brasil.com' (Brazilian Official Chart) posted that 'In The Zone' has been DIAMOND Certified, confirming 'Not’cias Musicais' Unofficial Chart, which means sales of above 500,000.

-Oct 24 2004

Britney's "In The Zone" is back to Brazilian's Top 40 CD Sales again this week (#37), and now "Hot100Brasil.com" (Brazilian Official Chart) posted "In The Zone" with DIAMOND Certified, confirming "Notícias Musicais" Unnofficial Chart, witch means sales above 500,000!!!

Britney Spears is the first International Artist to receive the Diamond Certified since 1983 when Madonna recieved, so she was the most sucessfull artist this year here in Brazil, and probably since 1983.

This is BIG everybody! :D

Britney's album sales

Holla Back? Why do silly fans lie about sales, britney albums have sold a lot but as much as below, where is the internet for these sales please

1. The reason I just changed the album sales is that at the certification part (when you count things up everything's right), when you compare it to what's noted at "the album stats", it's different.
2. Britney's achievements says that IFPI and TIME Magazine confirmed that Britney's album sales topped 85 million. Now when you count them up (25+22+13+10+8+0.7) it's a total of 78 million... I just viewed this at EssentialBritneySpears.com (French):

“

...Baby One More Time: 28 millions Oops! ... I Did It Again: 22 millions Britney: 17 millions In the Zone: 10 millions Greatest Hits - My Prerogative: 8 millions Total: 86.5 millions.

”

Now I understand it's just a fanpage so they can make things up, but when you count everything up, it turns up to be right as IFPI self confirmed the 85 million album sales. So I'm adding these results to wikipedia. The title on the site self says "Ventes Officielles De Britney Spears" which means "Britney's Official Sales" Anybody objects? -- Luigi-ish 19:09, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Cool research--2hot4u2handle 05:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Lol, thanks -- Luigi-ish 19:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but unless these sales have been confirmed by Jive Records, they do not count. Those sales could have been made up by anyone as it is a fan site and not an official Britney Spears site. -- User:151.203.153.24

Those statistics were published by IFPI, that's pretty relyable to me! -- Luigi-ish 20:53, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Britney's Brazilian and Japanese Sales for In The Zone

Brazil:

'In The Zone' Certified Diamond In Brazil Britney Spears' 'In The Zone' is back to Brazilian's Top 40 CD Sales again this week (#37), and now 'Hot100Brasil.com' (Brazilian Official Chart) posted that 'In The Zone' has been DIAMOND Certified, confirming 'Not’cias Musicais' Unofficial Chart, which means sales of above 500,000.

-Oct 24 2004

Britney's "In The Zone" is back to Brazilian's Top 40 CD Sales again this week (#37), and now "Hot100Brasil.com" (Brazilian Official Chart) posted "In The Zone" with DIAMOND Certified, confirming "Notícias Musicais" Unnofficial Chart, witch means sales above 500,000!!!

Britney Spears is the first International Artist to receive the Diamond Certified since 1983 when Madonna recieved, so she was the most sucessfull artist this year here in Brazil, and probably since 1983.

This is BIG everybody! :D

GO here to see ---> http://www.hot100brasil.com/chtalbums.html - Oct 17th 2004 Japan:

In The Zone sold in Japan 400,000 copies

week 1 . 3 - 59128 ( 59128 ) week 2 . 7 - 59238 ( 118366 ) week 3 . 14 - 36481 ( 154847 ) week 4 . 17 - 20146 ( 174993 ) week 5 . 23 - 14846 ( 189839 ) week 6 . 25 - 12855 ( 202694 ) week 7 . 23 - 35642 ( 238336 ) week 8 . 23 - 11872 ( 250208 ) week 9 . 22 - 9016 ( 259224 ) week 10 . 29 - 7302 ( 266526 ) week 11 . 32 - 7002 ( 273528 ) week 12 . 35 - 6700 ( 280228 ) week 13 . 39 - 6789 ( 287017 ) week 14 . 43 - 5282 ( 292299 ) week 15 . 53 - 5255 ( 297554 ) week 16 . 47 - 4818 ( 302372 ) week 17 . 48 - 5134 ( 307506 ) week 18 . 52 - 4484 ( 311990 ) week 19 . 70 - 3901 ( 315891 ) week 20 . 64 - 4216 ( 320107 ) week 21 . 54 - 3850 ( 323957 ) week 22 . 55 - 3207 ( 327164 ) week 23 . 53 - 4120 ( 331284 ) week 24 . 45 - 4984 ( 336268 ) week 25 . 36 - 4681 ( 340949 ) week 26 . 46 - 3536 ( 344485 ) week 27 . 54 - 3141 ( 347626 ) week 28 . 68 - 2973 ( 350599 ) week 29 . 67 - 2843 ( 353442 ) week 30 . 76 - 2633 ( 356075 ) week 31 . 58 - 3001 ( 359076 ) week 32 . 67 - 3735 ( 362811 ) week 33 . 61 - 3839 ( 366650 ) week 34 . 75 - 3039 ( 369689 ) week 35 . 77 - 2802 ( 372491 ) week 36 . 113 - 2314 ( 374805 ) week 37 . 99 - 2499 ( 377304 ) week 38 . 90 - 2755 ( 380059 ) week 39 . 55 - 5029 ( 385088 ) week 40 . 59 - 3952 ( 389040 ) week 41 . 73 - 3722 ( 392762 ) week 42 . 88 - 2953 ( 395715 ) week 43 . 98 - 2669 ( 398384 ) week 44 . 119 - 2055 ( 400439 )

-Sept 25th 2004 http://talk.livedaily.com/archive/index.php/t-434383.html http://www.britneyspears.org/features/months/oct2004/ http://talk.livedaily.com/archive/index.php/t-436063.html

"Britney" sales certification

Brazil: 190,000 http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/brazil.shtml

Belgium: 50,000 (platinum) http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/belgium.shtml

Germany: 300,000 (Platinum) http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/germany.shtml

Holland: 100,000 http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/holland.shtml

Ireland: 3x Platinum http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/ireland.shtml

Mexico: 446,000 http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/mexico.shtml

Netherlands: Platinum http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/netherlands.shtml

Venezula: 500,000 http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/venezuela.shtml

"Oops... I Did It Again" sales certification

Brazilian Certification: 2x Platinum 265,000 German Certification: Platinum 300,000 Holland Certification: 240,000 Irish Certification: 4x Platinum Mexican Certification: 500,000 Netherland Certification: Platinum Venezualan Certification: 508,000

http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/holland.shtml http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/germany.shtml http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/brazil.shtml http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/ireland.shtml http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/mexico.shtml http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/netherlands.shtml http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/venezuela.shtml

"...Baby One More Time" sales

Brazialian Certification: 3x Platinum 420,000 German Certification: Platinum 300,000 Holland Certification: 320,000 Irish Certification: 4x Platinum Mexician Certification: 450,000 Netherlands Certification: 3x Platinum Venuzuelan Certification: 559,900

http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/brazil.shtml http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/germany.shtml http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/holland.shtml http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/ireland.shtml http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/mexico.shtml http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/venezuela.shtml http://www.britneyspears.bz/bp/sales/netherlands.shtml

"B in the Mix: The Remixes

according to Entertainment Weekly and MTV it debuted at no.134 not 166.

(Entertainment Weekly) Out of the Zone Britney's latest CD lacks star presence

Hear about Britney Spears' new baby? Definitely. Hear about her new album? Um... Released Nov. 22 without the usual PR blitz, B in the Mix: The Remixes sold only 14,000 copies in its first week, debuting at No. 134 on Billboard's album chart. A rep for Spears' label, Jive, insists the former Queen Bee of Teenage Pop hasn't lost her touch. The disc of clubby remixes "was scheduled as a limited-edition fan piece," she says, adding that Brit's working on a full-length album for 2006.

In general, remix albums rarely find a mass audience (R. Kelly's recent remix record, Remix City Volume 1, debuted only at No. 72). But B in the Mix lacks a photo of Britney anywhere on the cover or CD booklet- a conspicuously low-profile rollout for an artist whose 1999 debut album has sold more than 10 million copies. "It doesn't seem like the best way to sell a Britney CD," says Carl Mello, senior buyer at New England's Newbury Comics music chain. "Though it's a good way to milk the catalog for a few extra dollars over the holidays." And someone does have another mouth to feed.

-- 134 SPEARS*BRITNEY BE IN THE MIX THE REMIXES 14077 999 218 14296

Reverting sales numbers and image changes

Some sales numbers and image references were changed by anon editors in ways which were not supported by any citation that I could see, and which introduced broken image links.

Please follow up here with citations if the numbers were well sourced.

Discography

This article has become a ridiculous fanpage with no references. The version I've created keeps things simple, compiled and accurate -- but most improtantly, the data is all backed up with sources. Unless someone can find an OFFICIAL website (not fanpage) to cite their data for the worldwide sales figures of Britney's albums and/or singles, then they will be kept out of the article. Also, the reason for my removal of the singles chartbox is because it was unecessary; there are links to the specific singles' article on the page, where one can find all of the chart information they desire for that specific song by simply clicking on the link. Triggy 22:01, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I totally disagree, discography contains album chart w/ album pic, singles chart, and etc not just 1 table which is the unnecessary one. U found it unnessary bcoz u just want to delete it, Singles chart box are necessary, it summarizes all the singles so u visitors don't have to go in every page just to know the chart positions. And almost all discographies have singles chart box, so there's no reason to delete it whenever u just want.--Hotwiki 13:02, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

And oh, how good for triggy to deleted the past discussions, that's actualy another bad edit and vandalism.--Hotwiki 13:10, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Dear Triggy! The actual discography is good and detailed. And there's no need to remove informations because these are relevant for a discography. If you find out that some details are wrong (sales, chart positions), you can check out the sources and help us to improve this article. But don't damage the article or delete discussions. --Red-Blue-White 13:56, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

You people are obviously blind followers of Britney. As I stated, without a source, you can not just write worldwide sales and make them whatever you please. Also, a load of information is inaccurate (ie: In the Zone is NOT certified 3x Platinum in the U.S. Get over it). Not only that, but my version is clean and compiled; yours is a complete mess. Bolding things like "#1" is POV, and the remixography and unreleased songs sections are not only partially false, they are also unnecessary. Triggy 20:13, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

If you think that bolding numbers is a POV you can correct it. I don't know if a remixography or a unreleased songs section is necessary - but why not, if the songs are confirmed. A discography lists EVERY release (that's the meaning of the word "discography"). I removed lots of rumors but can't correct all numbers because I am not a Britney expert.

"In the Zone" is certified 2xPlatinum. You can find the certifications at the RIAA site [1]] and can correct them. But it is no reason to delete a complete article if there are unsure numbers. It's a better way to correct these numbers. --Red-Blue-White 23:39, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

This page has become an absolute mess. Sales figures should go on a completly seperate page. Somebody has completely screwed up the list of B-side songs and their sources by inexplicably listing album tracks, and I am currently compiling a list of various Britney songs that are not only TRULY unreleased, but have somehow leaked to bootleg. Some of us ARE interested in compiling a SERIOUS Britney discography, but I don't think it's happened yet.

Certifications "In the Zone"

"In The Zone" should be 3x platinum according to billboad.com someone asked about it and that was the answer because it has sold more in the U.S now the certification has not been changed because Jive has not yet paid for that shipment of albums.

Look at riaa.com [2]: You can search for "In the Zone" - and find double platinum. The Wikipedia can't report "that someone said it would be 3x Platinum". We need sources - RIAA, Billboard or the record company, then we can change it. But rumors are not enough. --Red-Blue-White 10:44, 13 January 2006 (UTC) She's a very sweet person!

Rumored albums

Wikipedia:Verifiability: Wikipedia should only publish material that is verifiable and is not original research. One of the keys to writing good encyclopedia articles is to understand that they should refer only to facts, assertions, theories, ideas, claims, opinions, and arguments that have already been published by a reputable publisher. The goal of Wikipedia is to become a complete and reliable encyclopedia, so editors should cite credible sources so that their edits can be verified by readers and other editors. --Red-Blue-White 19:19, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Britney Has Sold 85 Million Albums

The The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry has confirmed that Britney has sold 85 millions albums world wide.

Put the link here if it's true--Hotwiki 13:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

the IFPI usually doesn't register how many copies that are sold, but how many that have been shipped. So link please! - chsf 12:59, 2006/02/28 (UTC)

Britney's U.S. Sales according to USA Today

These are Britney's US Sale Records according to USA Today

• Baby One More Time (1999) 10.5 million
• Oops! I Did It Again (2000) 9.2 million
• Britney (2001) 4.3 million
• In the Zone (2003) 2.9 million
• Greatest Hits: My Prerogative (2004) 1.2 million
• B in the Mix: The Remixes (2005) 74,000

• wrong wrong wrong!!!!

baby one more time got a certification of 14XPlatinum in US!!! no usa today source can disagree with that!!! oops i did it again sold 9.8-10 million in us (diamond cert.) the other album sales are correct...

You need references, you simply can't say anything with one. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 14:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

That's only Nielsen SoundScan sales, actually sales are not the same as SHIPPED sales. USA Today says that those are the Nielsen SoundScan sales, which are for REAL and reliable, but they forgot to add the Club sales:

• Baby One More Time (1999) 10.5 million + 1.6 million (Club sales)
• Oops! I Did It Again (2000) 9.2 million + 1.2 million (Club sales)
• Britney (2001) 4.3 million + 588,000 (Club sales)
• In the Zone (2003) 3 million
• Greatest Hits: My Prerogative (2004) 1.2 million
• B in the Mix: The Remixes (2005) 74,000

Club sales (2002) Kraft. 21:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

INFLATED ALBUM SALES

Please, can someone fix this. The whole page is a mess of inflated album sales. I like Britney a lot but she ahsn't sold THAT much! Her discography along with Madonna's and Lil' Kim's are known to be full of inflated sales.

I've been fixing inflated sales EVERYDAY! this page looks like a FAN page, Britney fans are still inflating albums sales. I know that Britney Spears is an amazaing seller but not as much as some fans say. These are the REAL sales:

1."...Baby One More Time"

• Worldwide: 25 million (According to her official web site http://www.britneyspears.com/)
• U.S.: 10.5 million USAToday.com (March, 2006)
• U.S. certificacion: 14x Platinum RIAA.com

2."Oops!... I Did It Again"

• Worldwide: 20 million
• U.S.: 9.2 million USAToday.com (March, 2006)
• U.S. certificacion: 10x Platinum RIAA.com

3."Britney"

• Worldwide: 12 million
• U.S.: 4.3 million USAToday.com (March, 2006)
• U.S. certificacion: 4x Platinum RIAA.com

4."In the Zone"

• Worldwide: 8 million
• U.S.: 2.95 million Billboard.com (August, 2006)
• U.S. certificacion: 2x Platinum RIAA.com

5."Greatest Hits: My Prerogative"

• Worldwide: 7 million
• U.S.: 1.2 million USAToday.com (March, 2006)
• U.S. certificacion: Platinum RIAA.com

6."B in the Mix: The Remixes"

• Worldwide: 500,000
• U.S.: 74,000 USAToday.com (March, 2006)

• Spears has sold 28 million albums in America since the bow of her debut set, "...Baby One More Time" in 1999. Billboard.com
• Sales are not the same that Shipped Sales!!

Kraft. 02:53, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

All corrected. Thanks for the links! Herewego123 03:29, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Britney Spears' singles

according to Media Traffic.de

Baby One More Time sold over 8 million copies worldwide. Sometimes sold over 2 Million worldwide You Drive Me Crazy sold over 4 million worldwide Born To Make You Happy sold over over 2 million worldwide

Oops...I DId It Again sold over 4 million worldwide Lucky sold over 2 million worldwide Stronger sold over 2 million worldwide

I'm A SLave For You sold over 2 million worldwide Overprotected sold over 2 million worldwide

Me Against The Music sold over 2 million worldwide Toxic sold over 4 million worldwide Everytime sold over 4 million worldwide

My Prerogative sold over 2 million worldwide

MediaTraffic.de is a realiable source about sales BUT (there's always a but) MediaTraffic.de use Airplay points + Sales points, not only Sales points. Kraft. 02:56, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

When Your Eyes Say It

Should that be added to her singles? There is a music video for that song. Directed by Jonathan Dayton and Valerie Faris. The page says that the video was shot January 2001 [3] --L.a.m.b 14:49, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Unreleased/ unconfirmed songs moved

I removed the unreleased/ unconfirmed songs to a separate site Unreleased Britney Spears songs (Madonna has a similar site Unreleased Madonna songs). --Red-Blue-White 23:41, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

cool--Hotwiki 14:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Where's source's to the promo singles and special releases

Somebody should to do a separate site to Britney with "promo singles and special releases" and p[ut in there the cpovers and tracklistings.

Oh no, the discography is not very big no need to separate--Hotwiki 15:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I would dispute that--I have a promo copy of "(You Drive Me) Crazy" that appears to be authentic Jive product that I bought from an Ebay seller in the far east--it features "Autumn Goodbye" as well as all of the artwork from the standard YDMC single, but I never see it listed in any of the so-called "discographies", even the ones that seem to be fairly comprehensive.

Please can we get a reliable Source

Ive have been reading and people keep changing the sales for the albums. Until there is solid proof, leave the numbers alone.

This page need to be LOCKED

This page needs to have the sales fixed and then locked. It's so annoying when people come in here and inflate her sales to almost 90 million in album sales. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.171.42.13 (talk) 06:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC).

I agree this page should be locked again, too much vandalism. Kraft. 23:31, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

THERE IS NOT ONE SOURCE

All the numbers claim that they are coming from Billboard but the link provided is to Billboard.com. That is NOT a source. Where does it say it? The whole page is like this. Either add credible sources of citations needed is going up.

Taken care of. Corrected. Herewego123 03:30, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Please find a solution to the mess

With the removal of the pictures from the discography we lost some very valuable information on the number of albums Britney has sold. Those numbers were very well cited, this whole article was loaded with citations. Record sales are a sensitive issue and by removing those citations it has caused some issues. One question I would like answered is, if you wanted to remove the pictures, why did you remove the citations and valuble information with it? The pictures could have simply been removed with no harm done to the table. I ask that someone please hunt for those citations and proper numbers or we should simply revert back to the original version and remove the pictures. 8.04 05:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Already reverted to sourced numbers. Maddyfan 06:04, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Britney Has Sold 86 Million Albums Worldwide!!!!!!!!!why do some of you dought about it????

Britneys Sales are: ...One More Timne: 28 million

...ohps I Did It Again: 24 million

Britney: 15 million

In The Zone: 10 million

Greatest Hits: 8 million

B In The Mix: 1 million [4]

--85.75.109.5 13:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

• I agree. Britney's album sales are exactly there. Anyone can agree with that by adding all certifications.

--Scary Boo 20:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Those sales are totally FAKE... First, she hasn't sold 86 million albums, your source is a mirror of wikipedia, dear. She has sold 75-76 million records, according to these sources:

• Time Magazine
• Forbes.com

"...Baby One More Time" has sold 25 million worldwide, that's what her official web site used to claim. Kraft. 22:04, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

• Why totaly fake??? i believe that they are ABSOLUTELY true!!!

--Scary Boo 09:46, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

• I agree with Scary Boo. By adding all certifcations i found:

album

one more time= 27.8 million (28 mil)

ooops i did it again= 24.1 million (24mil)

brtitney=15.2 million (15mil)

in the zone=10.3 million(10 mil)

greatest hits=8.4 million (8.5 mil)

the remixes= 0.86 million(1 mil)

i used 54 countries 4 one more time, 48 countries 4 oops i did it again, 50 countries 4 britney, 46 countries 4 in the zone, 43 countries 4 greatest hits and 21 countries 4 the remixes .

check it out Kraft!!!

Can you guys please add reliable sources with those numbers? Every single album by Britney has sold very well, but those sales are inflated, if you're able to add sources with those number then do it. Time magazine is a RELIABLE source, most of your "sources" are tabloids well-know for providing fake info. Kraft. 20:34, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

--Sparking sparky 09:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

• I also agree with Scaryboo. i've got another source which claims sales of over 85 million copies. Here it is [5].

Britney's sales are surely there. People were saying that Baby one more time has sold 25 million way back in 2004 now it has surely passed the 28 million mark!!! Why is it so difficult 4 u 2 understand?!?

--CutyViolet 10:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

• i 2 agree with scaryboo!!!! here is another source that claims the same things : [6]

(britney spears is number 18 on the list)

britney's spears album sales r 4 sure over 85 million copies!!!

--Jojo D. 10:35, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I totally agree with you guys

another sources

http://people.monstersandcritics.com/archive/peoplearchive.php/Britney_Spears/biog

"With worldwide record sales topping the 85 million mark (as of 2006), Britney Spears has become one of the most recognizable celebrities and sex symbols of her generation."

http://www.thedeadbolt.com/news/111174/britneykevindivorce.php

"Britney Spears is the best-selling female artist of the 2000s, having sold 85 million albums"

http://www.myhitmusic.com/top_10_songs_of_the_1990s.htm

"With record sales over 85 million, she has become on of the most recognizable teen celebrities and sex symbols of the generation."

http://www.themoneytimes.com/articles/20060819/britney_s_second_pregnancy_an_accident-id-101198.html

"Britney has been in news ever since she made her debut in 1998. Britney won the ‘best-selling female artist’ of the year 2000 award, having sold over 85 million albums."

--Prinna 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Guys, attention everyone! I'm not blind, you're not blind, either. Then you gotta know that those "sources" are mirrors of Wikipedia, if you're gonna add a source, make sure that it is RELIEABLE. Kraft. 20:53, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

• why have u concluded that they r mirrors of wikipedia!?! they seem quite reliable and verifiable sources to me!!!! and even if they r (which i dought/dont belive) why should that make them unreliable sources!?! i agree that britney has sold 85 million albums worldwide and by adding sales from countries all around the glob u will see that!!!!! we have 8 sources that claim 85 million albums 4 britney and only 1 that claims less!! SO STOP IT!!!

Pinkypink - —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.30.223.1 (talk • contribs) 16:15, 25 June 2007

GUYS!!! we have 6 sources that claim 85 million copies and only 2 that say 76 million copies!!!! the difference is big so lets put the 85 million album claim!!!! (i agree with the others that say 85 million copies)!!!! LETS FINISH THIS!!!! I MEAN U PEOPLE HAVE GONE 2 FAR!!! BRITNEYS ALBUM SALES R 85 MILLION AND THATS THE BOTTOMLINE! WE HAVE SOURCES AND ITS LOGIC! WHAT ELSE DO U WANT!?!

--Raloft 20:28, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

These "sources" are not reliable. Fan sites and celebrity-gossip type sites do not have official sales numbers, nor do they provide information about where they obtained their information. It also doesn't really help your argument if you keep signing into Wikipedia with different account names and using a bunch of IP addresses, as well as signing your name differently on various talk pages. - eo 20:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

• what r u talking about!?! nobody's using more than 1 accounts!!!

--CutyViolet 10:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

• Who's signing in with more than 1 accounts!!? that whould be a stupid thing 2 do!!! anyway ihave 1 more source that claims 85 million 4 britney: [7]. sorry 1 more [8], and 1 more [9]

--Scary Boo 12:06, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

• The sources provided to substantiate your claims regarding any figures should be aligned with WP: Links to be avoided. At the moment, most (if not all) of the sites which illustrate the larger number are not credible sites, as defined by the the link above. The articles from Times & Forbes would be excellent examples of quality references. Fan sites are not reliable sources for information. Additionally, this page should be in agreement with the information found at Britney Spears. Finally, I would recommend that these figures be removed from the page until it can be generally agreed upon which sources are accurate. This being further defined by determining why there is a discrepancy between the sources. Tiggerjay 22:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Remove Album Sales

I suggest that we remove the Album Sales all together for the moment. That should satisfy both sides of the edit war. Please provide you feedback below. Otherwise I will boldly edit and remove the sales figures in about 3 days. Tiggerjay 18:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Personally I don't mind this, but I don't see that it will stop any reverting wars... two minutes after you remove them someone will come along and stick them right back in. - eo 18:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

• i suggest something more effective. Lets count how many sources claim 75-77 million albums for britney and how many claim 85 million. The side with most sources predominates!

--Mysterious Spy 18:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Not a bad idea, however the failing point in this case is that we've already established above that there is an abundance of non-notable "sources" online. With a topic such as this, there is plenty of fan based websites, etc., which have a general tenancy to provide bad information, either due to improper research or a desire to inflate numbers. IF we could establish that all of the "sources" meet the requirement to be included as a notable source, then it would be great. However I don't believe that is possible. At this point, I believe that no information is better than bad, or disputed information. Tiggerjay 03:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

• Well... i guess i agree but we must find a solution for all this!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mysterious Spy (talk • contribs)

Agreed, there does need to be a longterm solution to this, however until that point, we need to keep this disputed information removed. AH... How about this... see next article. Tiggerjay 17:05, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Album Sales - discussion

Here are some comments left in the Album Sales section by editors who do not know how to follow directions. :) Tiggerjay 22:23, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Why not "sales 75-85 Million"? time.com & forbes.com are more serious than the other sites. --Red-Blue-White 13:13, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Just checked the sources and I found this:

1. Mirror of Wikipedia.
2. Fake. Considering that Sony BMG confirmed that she sold over 60 million albums.
3. Mirror of Wikipedia.
4. Fake. Considering that Sony BMG confirmed that she sold over 60 million albums.
5. Mirror of Wikipedia.
6. Fake. Considering that Sony BMG confirmed that she sold over 60 million albums.
7. Mirror of Wikipedia.
8. Pointless. they're using Wikipedia as a source.
9. Useless.

Here it is the info that Sony BMG gave in February, 2005.

Britney has sold 28 million albums in the U.S. and over 60 million worldwide since her debut "Baby One More Time" in 1999.

Time magazine said that she has sold over 76 million records, which includes album and single sales. It's more accurate considering that Sony BMG said that Britney has sold over 60 million albums. Kraft. 01:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

• well u have the accurate sources but i have the most! i have counted 20 sources that claim the same thing until now. if you want i can proove that. but anyway....

but how can this be? i mean usa today says 75 million albums not 75 million records...

• ...one more time: 25 million

• oops i did it again: 20 million

• britney: 12 million

• in the zone: 8 million

• gratest hits: 7 million

• b in the mix: 1 million

and im sorry about the doublicated sources just a mistake! lets just finish with this its getting on my nerves. lol. put whatever sales u want but just dont exaggerate with it ok?

--Mysterious Spy 19:43, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Seriously, what's more reliable than her label (Sony BMG)?. Kraft. 05:30, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

So off!

The discography is so wrong. Britney does not have that many number 1 US Hot 100 singles. Maybe US Pop. Also her Greatest Hits Album peaked ay number 4. And there is no way that her RIAA certifications are right.

Album Sales

Sales?????????

ok we did the discussion part now lets procced to to the sales part! let's put some sales people what are you waiting for?!

--Mysterious Spy 09:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

We're waiting for sources, as easy as that, thanks. Kraft. 23:47, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, I was on a short wikibreak, and on vacation for two weeks IRL. See the below post for the results. Tiggerjay 15:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Album Sales Results

First, thank you to everybody who contributed links to be evaluated. After a short wikibreak, and with the input of various administrators, the general consensus is that the ~75 million figure is more reliable for the purposes of Wikipedia due to the references provided. While ~85 million figure might possibly be correct, there is no reliable sources available to satisfy Wikipedia policy, and therefore should not be used in this article. A quick review of the administrator input is as follows:

Source	TiggerJay	MastCell	Sarah	Comments
1. 85 Million [23]				syndicate of WP
2. 85 Million [24]				Unverifiable sources
3. 85 million[25]				syndicate of WP
4. 85 million [26]				404 Page not found
5. 85 million [27]				syndicate of WP
6. 85 million [28]				Blog
7. 85 million [29]				Game description only, unsourced
8. 85 million [30]				syndicate of WP
9. 85 million [31]				No sales figures on this page
10. 76 Million [32]				Appears reliable
11. 75 Million [33]				Appears reliable
12. 75 Million [34]				Appears reliable

Where to go from here: Since a opporuntiy was presented to all interested parties to submit a list of sources, and this list has been evaluated by several administrators, the 75 million figure is the proper number for Wikipeida. Edits to the article which do not agree with this can and will be promptly reverted, and edit wars will not be tolerated regarding this issue.

My two cents: Since this will probably continue to be disputed and will likely increase over time, it may be better to simply avoid sales figures all together. However, if we are going to use sales figures, then we must use the consensus above. Tiggerjay 15:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

wow this is completely wrong

now it only adds up to 65 million which doesnt even make sense since in the article on Britney Spears it says according to Zombel she has sold over 83 million...

wow this is completely wrong

now it only adds up to 65 million which doesnt even make sense since in the article on Britney Spears it says according to Zombel she has sold over 83 million... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soxsfan417 (talk • contribs) 22:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC)