Talk:British overseas territories
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[edit] CROWN COLONIES!!?!?
Crown Colonies had a different constitutional arrangement from British overseas territories. To say that the BOT's were previously "called" crown colonies is wrong. They previously WERE crown colonies. The fact that crown colonies re-directs to this page now makes every link to historical crown colonies incorrect since there is no discussion of what makes a crown colony a crown colony. Suggestions? Nigelhenry (talk) 01:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Longest sentence ever?
"Although Britain itself has seen immigration from these areas (over a far longer time frame), the nature, timing, and size of this non-British settlement, the resulting racial makeups of many of the populations, and both the legacies of racism, slavery, and economic exploitation, on the one hand, and the attitudes, within and without Britain and its territories, to nationality and ethnicity as they relate to race, on the other, mean that the relationship between Britain and some of its remaining settlements is often seen as more analogous to that which had existed between Britain and some of its now independent territories in Africa or Asia, rather than that with the previous North American or Australasian territories."
I'm stuggling to believe anyone could have wrote this without purposefully trying to make it needlessly long. I'll have a go at chopping it up--The Spith 20:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- That is the paradigm of Charles Dickens' writing style, it even includes the overuse of commas. :) Chris Buttigiegtalk 21:14, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Effect of US DST rule change, 2006/2007
US DST rules have changed significantly, effective from March 1st 2007. The clock change which would have happened on April 1st 2007 will occur on March 11th 2007. The autumn clock change will be a week later than in the past.
That affects (most of) the USA. Also most of Canada, of course, and the Bahamas (Commonwealth, and off-topic here). It also affects Bermuda and Turks & Caicos, which are British overseas territories.
Four other BOTs are near North America; i don't know their plans.
Change in Summer Time rules affects IT and travel.
(a) Does it affect any other BOTs (or commonwealth)?
(b) Is it, after independent verification, worth mentioning here or in individual BOT pages? I rather think it might be.
82.163.24.100 20:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion re Gibraltar
Hi. There is a discussion going on over the Gibraltar article as to the legal status of the territory. The outcome would have an impact on this article, because the claim is that Gibraltar is not a "British" overseas territory, because the legal name has changed since the 2002 Act. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 11:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Independence
"The Dominions achieved full independence with the Statute of Westminster (1931)". No they didn't. They gained partial independence to varying degrees. Treay Ports, Goff Whitlam crisis, Newfoundland, shared crown etc etc etc
194.46.227.118 23:55, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Do BOTs include SBAs?
Does the term "British overseas territories" include the "Sovereign Base Areas"? ― 韓斌/Yes0song (談笑 筆跡 다지모) 11:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes. The two Sovereign Base Areas form one British Overseas Territory. The only differencies between the SBAs and other British Overseas Territories are: 1) The territory is administred through the Ministry of Defence rather than the Foreign and Commonwealth Office as the territory is primarily used for defence purposes, 2) Permanent inhabitants of the territory have British Overseas Territory Citizenship rather than United Kingdom Citizenship & 3) Despite a permanent civilian population, the territory (like a territory with no permanent population) has no right to self determination. All other territories with permanent inhabitants have a right to self determination including the choice of independence, the only one that does not is Gibraltar which has the right to remain British or merge with another state (Spain). YourPTR! (talk) 00:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] colonies in the classical sense
Could this be referenced, and what dose it mean? If it cannnot be referenced should it be removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Domer48 (talk • contribs) 18:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- "The original English colonies in the New World were colonies in the classical sense, in that they were plantations of English subjects in lands hitherto outside the dominions of the Crown."
- It's a fairly simple sentence, the latter clause defines the former. If it cannot be verified it can be removed. And don't forget to sign your comments. Thanks, -- Chris B • talk • contribs 18:58, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
If it was fairly simple I would not be asking, and no I don't think the latter defines the former. Is it a quote from some one? Would the classical sense be the same as “colonialism.” For example the Plantation of Ulster, was that done in the classical sense? --Domer48 19:09, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- "Classical sense", according to the following clause, simply describes the original colonies as being plantations of English subjects (i.e. people ruled by another) in lands which were up to that point outside the ruling control of the British crown. Try removing the verbosity (the underlined bit) and it makes more sense. I am afraid I don't know anything about the Plantation of Ulster. You may, however, wish to try the reference desk because this page is strictly speaking for discussing changes to the article. -- Chris B • talk • contribs 19:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok I will remove the verbosity. Strictly speaking though, that whole section has not go one reference. I will simply assume good faith, and leave it to be referenced by someone who knows more about the subject? Me I still on a learning curve. Thanks for the advice. --Domer48 19:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image Gallery
There are 17 images in the gallery of which over 50% of those are of Bermuda. If there is going to be a gallery of images within the article surely it should aim to portray at least one image of each of the 14 territories. I will try to improve this later on but if anyone else wants to give it a shot before I have, just go for it! --Gibmetal 77talk 13:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Done. The only territory not included is British Antarctic Territory as there are no available images. --Gibmetal 77talk 18:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
