Talk:British nationality law and Hong Kong

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[edit] British National (Overseas) - extra information

The AfD for the above article has been closed with the consensus that it should be merged with British nationality law and Hong Kong. Thanks. Babajobu 10:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of Hong Kong

I dont think it is appropriate to put to HKSAR flag in an UK nationality article. The HKSAR flag does mean "Hong Kong is part of the PRC" and I replace it with the colonial flag, which it more suitable. BN(O) 16:11, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ancestry

my dad was an hk citizen, but left in 1965. i think he had a british passport. do i qualify for a british passport as well even though ive never lived in hong kong?

Exactly what nationality was shown on his passport? Look at page 5. If its says the holder has the right of abode in the United Kingdom, you may be british and need to speak to the nearest British mission for advice. If it says right of abode in Hong Kong then I am afraid that you are not British. --Spartaz 14:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] travel conditions to the uk

what are the travel conditions to the uk for a bno? whats the maximum amount of time they can stay in the uk per visit? Like all visitors max stay 6 months. Consult the British consulate general in Hong Kong for further advice. --Spartaz 14:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

More information is in both BritishHongKong [1] and BNOwiki [2]

[edit] airport queues

when you queue up at the airport, there are 3 queues. 1 for british citizens, the other for eu citizens, and the third is for everyone else. which queue does the bno get on?

There are two queues these days - eu and others. HNK isn't in the EU. --Spartaz 17:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

wrong. theres a queue for british and irish, and the eu gets in another queue.

[edit] nhs

im curious as to whether or not bno;s are entitled to nhs in the uk? if they are visiting the uk.

[edit] Prior to 1985??

What about citizenship status prior to 1985? Status such as British Subjects, CUKCs, BDTCs? --Kvasir 09:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Short answer - British Dependent Territories citizen (BDTC) was the normal status for persons in Hong Kong. Longer answer : The 1985 Act created the status of BN(O) on 1 July 1987 (ie 10 years before handover). BDTC was then ceased on 30 June 1997. So for 10 years there was an "overlap" of both BDTC and BN(O). Of course, not every BDTC became a BN(O) on 1 July 1987, if at all. JAJ 03:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah i know all that, i just want to have that included in the article. --Kvasir 04:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

It already is in the article. JAJ 04:08, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

That's because i've just added it, the whole half of the article (see history). --Kvasir 04:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese Occupation

Anyone know the citizenship status for persons born under Japanese Occupation? It was specifically from 25 December 1941 to 16 September 1945. There is no doubt that those born in the territory did not obtain Japanese nationality by birth unless either parent was Japanese national. Was Hong Kong still considered a British territory under Japanese administration? If so, they would have british nationality just like immediately before and after the war. Otherwise, wouldn't they have been stateless (except for Chinese nationality which wasn't even defined yet)? --Kvasir 06:04, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Hong Kong was still considered a British colony at the time. Children born in Hong Kong in that period with "enemy alien" fathers did not acquire British nationality (however "father" did not include unmarried fathers). This situation was very similar in other colonies like Singapore, and also in the Channel Islands. JAJ 05:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, thought I've read something like that. It's mentioned in the 1948 Act but that's after the War (perhaps it applies retroactively?) I'll see if I can find any earlier relevant act(s) that reference this. --Kvasir 06:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I have started a stub section, hopefully it will attract experts or contributors who can afford the time to research. I myself haven't found anything about enemy aliens or birth in occupied territories in nationality acts prior to World War II, nor can i find any source saying what exactly were the official statuses of UK and Japan in occupied HK. Obviously the UK would view it as a temporary occupation but it was signed over formal surrender. Japan probably viewed HK as a colony of sort. --Kvasir 09:01, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

You're looking for information that is not going to be found. Occupation had no effect on whether a territory was part of "His Majesty's dominions" prior to 1949. Anyone born in an occupied territory during World War 2 (Hong Kong, Singapore, Channel Islands etc) unambiguously acquired British nationality unless father was an 'enemy alien.' JAJ 10:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some blog articles in Chinese by current affairs commentator 黃世澤

Though the content may not be suitable for Wikipedia (as it is only a blog), I would like to put the links here for your reference. The analysis is detailed and good. He thinks that EU granting visa-free access for BNOs is a sign that BN(O) will be upgraded to EU citizenship soon and I am convinced my his analysis. I believe he has done some research in this area. However, if you don't agree with him or have any point to make, feel free to do so.

[3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]

BN(O) 01:44, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

More information is in both BritishHongKong [9] and BNOwiki [10] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robinian (talk • contribs) 12:53, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 特區護照≠中籍, BritishHongKong.com

I think the essay is a funny one, but it is not a reliable source for Wikipedia. It is only written by an internet users and there is no evidence that the writer is a qualified expert. It mimics the Mingpao's essay in the way of writing. Though I personally agree with some of the points, I don't think the link is appropriate for Wikipedia. BN(O) (talk) 03:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm that is news to me, but without a link to the essay I can't really comment on it. According to the HKSAR_passport article, Chinese citizenship is a requirement. --Kvasir (talk) 10:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Right of abode, visa, and entry requirement for other British citizens in HK before 1997

Is there any information out there about right of abode, and entry requirement for other types British citizens (other than BDTC/CUKC/British subjects connected to HK) before 1997. From History of Hong Kong: "British citizens (without right of abode in HK) are no longer able to work in Hong Kong for one year without a visa; the policy was changed on 1 April 1997." Would be nice to expand on that and include a comprehensive comparison. The article has been focused on HK BDTC's right of abode and entry issues in the UK and not other BOTs, and the reverse. --Kvasir (talk) 10:17, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Children of BNO Passport Holders

Are they entitled to BNO passport as well or do they then become Chinese? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.14.169 (talk) 11:56, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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