Talk:Brithenig

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Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 2005-07-23. The result of the discussion was keep.

The Tolkien reference is inaccurate. His languages were not made up for background to the stories, but the reverse. Also, the stories in question are the legends of the First Age, i.e., those in the background of The Lord of the Rings. Zaslav (talk) 20:45, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Future arguments on conlangs

Have just looked through the old arguments on deleting this and other conlang pages. I suggest that the best test is to Google the language in question, and see how many hits there are. Anything with 17,000 hits is more than the private game of half a dozen people. Koro Neil (talk) 12:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

The number of ghits (Google hits) is by itself a very weak evidence of notability.
The quality of the results matters, not the quantity.
For example, a lot of websites indiscriminately copy information from Wikipedia in hope that it will bring visitors. The fact that a robot copied a piece of information from Wikipedia to another site doesn't make that piece of information any more verifiable or notable.
Also, the recent proliferation of sites with user-generated content make the Google tests even more meaningless. For example, if you take out the Wikipedia and its related sites and clones and Ill Bethisad and its related sites and try to search for Brithenig, the number of results goes down to 10,000. (search for "Brithenig -site:wikipedia.org -site:wiktionary.org -wapedia.com -site:griffler.co.nz -site:griffler.co.nz -site:answers.com -site:langmaker.com -site:bethisad.com -site:groups.yahoo.com -site:ib.frath.net -site:wikia.com -site:wikibin.org".) I didn't go over all of those 10,000, but the impression is that many of them are mailing lists, which is not so good for Wikipedia.
The usual arguments about conlangs is that many of them exist on mailing lists. If you ask me, it's tough luck. I don't think that any field of study or art should be exempt from the usual Wikipedia criteria for notability and verifiability: WP:V, WP:NOTE, WP:PSTS, etc. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 15:25, 7 February 2008 (UTC)