Talk:Brit shalom

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[edit] Jewish naming ceremony?

I've just gone through and improved the language a little, and couldn't decide whether to remove 'Jewish' from the description.

Here's the problem:

• On one hand, it was developed by Jewish people, who clearly consider it to be Jewish in nature (and, after all, it is intended to recognise the child's 'Jewishness'). From that point of view, it is Jewish, and calling it so is accurate according to their view of Judaism.
• On the other hand, if a Jewish person plays tennis every time a child is born, that does not itself make that a Jewish ceremony. Calling it so may be inaccurate from the viewpoint of those with a different view (or maybe not, this is partly why I ask).

What do other people think? Jakew 21:18, September 11, 2005 (UTC)

It was changed to reflect these concerns. JFW | T@lk 08:22, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

I cannot make sense of JakeW's hypothetical. If a group of Jewish people decided to play tennis every time a child was born, making reference when they did to elements of Judaism, that would become the Jewish tennis ceremony. However, nobody else but Jews celebrate Brisot Shalom, whereas tennis is not confined to any religious or ethnic group. The Jews who celebrate it (Brit Shalom, not tennis) do so because they are Jews and for no other reason. For them it most certainly is a Jewish ceremony. To a large extent it replicates the events of Brit Milah, an indisputably Jewish ceremony, leaving out only the surgery (very much as some sects of Christianity leave out the bread from Communion and some substitute grape juice for the wine). Some Jews may say Brit Shalom is not Jewish, just as various sects of Christianity say others are not Christian. --Hugh7 08:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

The reference to Russians being prevented from being circumcised under communism and being circumcised later is not relevant to Brit Shalom --Hugh7 09:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree, and am removing it. Angr (talk • contribs) 09:46, 27 April 2006 (UTC)