Talk:Bristol Channel
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[edit] Flood date
It was stated in the article that the flood happened on 20 January 1607, or 20 January 1606 "because of calendar change". The change to the Gregorian calendar was only about 12 days, and otherwise I have no idea what the comment may have meant. Oliver Chettle 14:58, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- The source for this is the BBC documentary about the flood, I'm not too sure what they meant either. -- Joolz 15:51, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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- As I understand, the correct New style date is 30 January 1607. The OS date used at the time would have been 20 January 1606. This is because of the 10 day lag in the Julian calendar plus the different convention for when the year number changes; under the Julian in England, it was on Lady Day, 25 March; under Gregorian on 1 January -- so that year didn't become 1607 to them until March. I have used the NS date in List of United Kingdom disasters by death toll. --mervyn 13:04, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Width of channel
"It takes its name from the English city of Bristol and is over 5km across at its widest point." Is this correct? The channel looks a lot wider than that. --B.d.mills 10:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Severn crossings
The Severn road bridges cross the "Mouth of the Severn", further upstream from where the Bristol Channel starts. Bristol and Cardiff are both technically on the Severn too if my understanding is correct as the Bristol Channel starts and the Severn ends at Flat Holm and Steep Holm. I've got the Philips Street Atlas for Cardiff, Swansea and the Valleys (2nd impression with revisions, 2006, mapping sourced from Ordnance Survey) in front of me and the route planning pages clearly label the channel as "ABER HAFREN, MOUTH OF THE SEVERN" right next to Cardiff (Caerdydd) just upstream of these 2 small islands. Aber is the Welsh word for River by the way. Didn't want to change the article myself to reflect this as such a dramatic edit could be controversial - JVG 19:16, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Coastal cities and towns
Slightly offtopic, however - Bristol is mentioned in this section, however is it actually considered a city on the English coast or not? Elynnia 22:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Estuary vs Channel
This article confuses the Bristol Channel and the Severn Estuary. Both are different, although adjacent pieces of water. It would be much clearer if the estuary related content e.g. the Severn bridges, tunnel and bore were moved into the River Severn article and then the redirect changed. Given some time I may do this. --Cheesy Mike 22:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Aber Henfelen
Hihi, just working on the Missing Articles Hotlist and came across "Aber Henfelen" and found this: Aber Henfelen. Name for the sea between Wales and Cornwall, i.e. the Bristol Channel, in Welsh narrative in: A Dictionary of Celtic Mythology. James McKillop. Oxford University Press, 1998. Oxford Reference Online. Oxford University Press. Also seems to be something similar at http://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%B4r_Hafren, but I can't read it :) Here's a spot where its being used in context: http://www.celtnet.org.uk/gods_rh/rhiannon.html. I'll leave it to peoples smarter than I am to figure out if/where to put it. Legotech (talk) 19:08, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- According to this - http://www.answers.com/topic/aber-henfelen - Aber Henfelen is or was the Welsh name for the sea "between Wales and Cornwall". It's also mentioned here - http://www.mentercaerffili.org/saesneg/gwybodcaerffs.php?hanes=27. Môr Hafren certainly means Severn Estuary, and Môr Celtaidd, I guess, means Celtic Sea (I don't speak Welsh, unfortunately) - so does that mean that Aber Henfelen should be used as the Welsh term for the Bristol Channel? Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
