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[edit] Brisingr

How the heck did we get 'Brisingr' to act like the new annouced title? The ref for it links to this phone conversation recorded online that doesn't say anything about 'Brisingr'. ~ Bella Swan 03:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, when I click the link it sends me to the first one, which is a .pdf of a press release issued today announcing the title. seresin ^{wasn't he just...?} 04:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Yep. The official press release and Shurtugal.com both corroborate on the cover and title. At last, people will no longer have an excuse to change "currently untitled" to "speculated by fans to be Empire/Glaedr/Fricaya"... Una Laguna^Talk 07:03, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

well...at least this book has a title now. Can't wait for it to come out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Demonteenager (talk • contribs) 18:17, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't think anyone had fixed the ref when I looked at it, so I didn't know. ~ Bella Swan 20:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Every site I looked at had said it was a green book, with the title "Empire." I mean, it's following a pattern up till the third book. Eragon- starts with an "E," Has a picture of Saphira (Eragon's dragon, obviously.), and refers to Eragon. Eldest- Starts with an "E," Has a picture of Thorn (Murtagh's dragon) and refers to Murtagh. Brisingr? Doesn't start with an E, Has a picture of Glaedr (Who's already been introduced), and probably refers to no-one. It doesn't make any sense. 65.223.58.226 (talk) 23:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

Should we offer a guide for this, in case people are confused by the gr? Or is that just me? Does anybody know how it IS pronounced? 69.210.130.47 (talk) 18:46, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Not a bad idea. The press release just says "BRIS-ing-gr". That probably should go up in IPA. I'd do it, but I really have no clue how to work with that stuff, makes my head hurt.--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:20, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

The author himself pronounces it [ˈbɹɪsɪŋˌɡəɹ]. My fiancée knows someone who works with him, and she has soundfiles of him saying this and other words from the books. 91.107.173.194 (talk) 22:23, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

is it posible for you to give wikipedia one of these soudnfiles for references prupsoes only?`Smith Jones (talk) 22:24, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I stuck 91's IPA and the press release's guide in the lead section, where it seems most appropriate. Not sure if the method I used to lay it out is consistent with the rest of Wikipedia though :/ Una Laguna^Talk 18:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

dont worry about it User:UnaLaguna your IPAs look kickass and if their wrong then someone esle will stop by and reformat them properly. :D Smith Jones (talk) 22:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, UnaLaguna! Your IPA references are correct, with one problem, and again it comes down to pronounciation: Is the final 'gr' a hard g or an English J? Your IPA suggests that it's J, but from what I can remember, I thought 'brisingr' (as terrible as it sounds, unfortunately) is pronounced with a hard g. But besides that your correct. Also, kind of on a tangent here, but do you guys think that the Ancient Language's orthography is indecipherable and needs revision to be (a little more) convincing. (not that that would help its legitamacy issues.) I welcome your comments. 69.238.198.100 (talk) 17:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC)Theodore from California

I originally listened to the audiobooks and I am about 95% certain that it is hard "g." I can check it, if anyone wants. Agent0042 (talk) 04:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right. I've removed the IPA until we can correct it. Una Laguna^Talk 06:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Empire

This page doesnt mention what the third book was originally going to be called (Empire)or the fact that until the change all books in the trilogy had seven letters and started with E. I know that was the original idea. so I guess we should find sources and add that detail. I will do it later, but to busy now. unless someone wants to do it before next week, becasue i wont be able to tell then.(Masterxak (talk) 08:23, 2 April 2008 (UTC))

This page doesn't state the book was going to be called Empire because there's no hard evidence to verify that claim. Una Laguna^Talk 07:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Content

"Eragon has yet to acquire the new weapon referred to in the first book, wherein Solembum said, 'When the time comes and you need a weapon, look under the roots of the Menoa tree'."

Wasn't Eragon's transformation in Eldest the weapon he received? Or is the weapon literally under the tree? --71.174.241.40 (talk) 12:40, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

No, in an earlier message, Christopher stated that Eragon had NOT received the weapon yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.208.207.39 (talk) 01:44, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

That has not been confirmed one way or the other. Until then, the quote will remain here.

Spinach Dip 21:33, 10 May 2008 (UTC)