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[edit] Oliver Sykes

He Is 19 Years Old And From Stocksbridge in Sheffield, UK He went to school with Alex Turner of Arctic Monkeys but didnt get on with him as Oli was an He Is Currently In A Metalcore Band Called Bring Me the Horizon. Not Only That But he designs Clothes. He Has His Own Clothing Line Called Drop Dead. He Has 54 Tattoos. Well You Can Go To myspace.com/bmth For More. Edited by Nidia(SJ)S

[edit] Syke's own page

- Almost half the BMTH page is about Oli Sykes. His side projects and legal problems are not all relevant to the band. His own page should be started to document those things, so they can be kept off this one. Agent0range2 (talk) 13:11, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

agreed, he does enough to have his own page. --86.131.194.244 (talk) 18:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Delete

Not notable. Srpnor 16:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Delete --ColinHunt 17:56, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Why? You persist to keep meaningless bands like The Mascara Story on this website, who were around for a tiny amount of time and had little to no success, yet you refuse to allow the Kerrang! Award winning Bring Me The Horizon to have a page. I think this is just a conflict of opinions that should be ignored, and that a rising band such as this should be kept on the site. 86.139.19.193 17:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

The quality of the music they are playing has nothing to do with whether or not they should be on this website, a lot of people know about them, so they should stay. even though I hate them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.84.38.102 (talk) 21:40, August 21, 2007 (UTC)

bmth IS A FCKIN shit BAND  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.55.161.195 (talk) 22:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

What makes them not notable? Looks fine to me. -- FatalError (talk | contribs) 00:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] subst:prod| inproper facts - just an opinion.

right i just have to state how pissed off i am at this because it is just merely a 14 year olds opinion of the band. if he/she was to meet them and have a proper conversation with them at all you would realise that they are all really nice. ALSO you cant really hate them that much because you have OBVIOUSLY taken the time out to listen and analyse their album fully..better still do you even know what metal is you think cunt?

excuse me but why are you using this discussion page too get at people? use it for actuall dicussion on the band themsleves.

bmth is real metal. and thank god this page is being kept. cos they deserve to be recognized more. i'm also a stupid cunt with no idea what real metal is.

"bmth is real metal" I have to severely disagree with you there. Their music doesnt follow any structure what so ever, and without trying to sound cliché here it's just noise, and really awful noise at that. Bands i would consider metal are:

Converge
Pelican
crydebris (http://myspace.com/crydebris) Check these out especially. Really really good band.
Botch
Cult of Luna

I could list over a hundred bands to be honest. But BMTH just aren't metal, they're attempting to play music that needs experience to do well and they quite obviously don't have enough.

"if he/she was to meet them and have a proper conversation with them at all you would realise that they are all really nice"

Just because "they are all really nice" doesn't make them a good band musically does it? Fucking hell.

gingers rule

How can BMTH not be considered Metal? There are aggressive heavily distorted guitars, drums, and screaming vocals. What else can you define it as? Rock? Experimental? Miscellaneous? Calling BMTH "not true metal" is just elitist and opinionated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.108.248.186 (talk) 13:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Metalcore?

are bmth metalcore? they are too heavy to be metalcore like kse and 36 crazyfists, has anyone considered swedecore? like as i lay dying.

swedecore is a newer form of metalcore (somtimes known as Deathcore), so not really, their not deathcore heavy, though they have elements of it in their music, they also have a lot of metalcore elements.

36 Crazyfists....METALCORE?!?! LLOL LOLZZZ LMOZZ!!11 LOLYPOPZ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.132.205.248 (talk) 15:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

KSE and 36 Crazyfists don't have elements of hardcore in their music -> not metalcore86.137.164.121 20:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Swedecore is not a real genre (and what is described as it is not deathcore either), and KsE are metalcore. They practically invented the recent genre of metalcore. Diabolical 01:58, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Lets all just agree, their music is not worth listening to since it has been done by dozens of American bands twice as well.

I am astounded with the level of sub- and cross-genres created all the time just to discribe the particular sounds of a particular band. If a metal band sound different, they are then "innovators" in a new genre they practically invented. I could myself make a Black-fold-grind-nu-core-swing band, and be considered genre-breaking, when it would just be a metal band with keyboard, fiddle, and syncopation. At somke stage, we must consider music as an infinate expance, not clumps of discrete genres. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.108.248.186 (talk) 13:10, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Des Lynam's son?

I don't think this is a true fact. Can anyone shed light on it? Or delete it?

[edit] Alteration

BMTH are now supporting Killswitch Engage on their UK and European Tour, not the lostprophets as shown

[edit] Trivia

The following shoudl probably be added to trivia. "Oli, and several others in the band were straight edge untill they met Oli's ex-girlfriends brother Neil Whitley, who's main band "Schorched Flesh" lyrical content is primarily about getting drunk." -I know this to be true as I actually know Neil whitley as I'm from the same town as him.

Also their name is a quote from pirates of the caribean.

True story, noone really cares.

[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Bring Me the Horizon → Bring Me The Horizon — Was previously Bring Me The Horizon, but was moved today. I searched on google, and the results were as follows: 16 Bring Me The Horizon, 6 BRING ME THE HORIZON, 4 Bring Me the Horizon, and 1 misc. These results are from the first three pages only, and exclude any links to Wikipedia. See here, here and here Asics talk 19:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Add # '''Support''' or # '''Oppose''' on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~. Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.

[edit] Survey - in support of the move

Support as nominator. Asics talk 19:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey - in opposition to the move

Oppose - WP:MOSTM and WP:MOSCL suggest that the definite article is never capitalised in aritcle titles. Chris cheese whine 19:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Oppose per above, and WP:NC#Album titles and band names. Prolog 19:54, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Oppose per MoS, as pointed out above. Gene Nygaard 20:10, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Oppose per MoS, Wikipedia does not capitalize articles (the parts of speech). Evan Reyes 23:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Add any additional comments:

Result no move. Asics talk 12:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

[edit] Genre dispute

BMTH appear to have influences of death metal (vocals) and metalcore (rest of the band). Therefore, I believe them to be deathcore. On no stretch of the imagination, to me at least, are BMTH screamo... maybe they dress a bit emo, but bands are not given a genre just because of how they dress. However, if people would like to explain any musical reasons why they are screamo I would be more than happy to take them on board! But for now I will leave their page as metalcore (first album) and deathcore (new album). Asics talk ^{Editor review!} 19:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

There's no elements of screamo in the music, people who are changing it think that because they dress 'emo' and scream they are. Diabolical 18:24, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

You'll probably need some citations to back up the genre... Encyclopedia Metallum says they're metalcore [1], as does Rockdetector[2]-K@ngi e ^meep! 21:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I understand this, however, it is obvious that they aren't metalcore, as vocals are way too death influenced... take old Trivium for example, they are metalcore...BMTH's vocals are much more Job for a cowboy influenced than anything else. However, citation is definately needed. Asics talk ^{Editor review!} 22:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Your assertion that the vocals are more growly would be considered OR if you don't have some sort of reliable 3rd party source that says that. I recommend finding some sort of article on a website that says that BMTH is deathcore and describes their vocal style - that'd be cool and it'd improve the article quality :)-K@ngi e ^meep! 22:26, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll do my best at finding some! Asics talk ^{Editor review!} 23:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I've found some citation for deathcore... Citation just search for deathcore and it will take you to a paragraph about Bring Me the Horizon!Asics talk ^{Editor review!} 12:39, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Death metal? Yeah, BMTH has influences from the genre (vocals) but it isn't death metal. Metalcore/Deathcore is fine I think. Plus, there are no reliable sources (at least none that I have found) saying they are death metal, while they are many calling them deathcore or metalcore. -- FatalError (talk | contribs) 02:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is anyone going to mention...

That they are a bad rip-off of At the Gates et. al with a overgenerous sprinkling of breakdowns?

No one will mention that as it is POV which wikipedia forbids. However, if you find creditable sources, it would be fine to add it on. Asics talk ^{Editor review!}

Hold the front page, Metalcore band rips off At The Gates! Diabolical 15:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Well maybe I should link something like a comparison of their songs? Also I think Ollie Sykes' own opinion on the band should be included.

Image:Http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/metal newbie/LastScan.jpg

Thanks for that, we had been looking for citation for it! Asics talk ^{Editor review!} 18:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Metallica Tribute & Olisaurus

Has anyone got any citation for these two statements in the Other Projetcs section? If there is no citation, they will need to be removed. I have donw my best at citing the rest of the article, which did involce removing certain parts and replacing with more relevant info etc. But I couldn't find citation for these two parts. Any ideas anyone? Thanks, Asics talk ^{Editor review!} 15:05, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
There is an interview with Capital Chaos in which a band member confirms members of Bring Me The Horizon were in Metallica tribute band "Fifth Column". As for Olisarus I personally have the sound files for the songs "As Drunken As An Owl" and "Girls" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommdawwwgg (talk • contribs) 17:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] language

hey there, please add german version

[[de:Bring Me The Horizon]]

thx!

Done. Lankiveil 06:37, 21 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Pirates of the Caribbean

Did they take their name from Pirates of the Caribbean? (Dyingswansong 20:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC))

- - Yes

The name 'Bring me Horizon' is a misquote the final line of the film and only point Jack Sparrow mentions bringing of any horizon is as follows:

"Jack : [walks over to the helm and looks around fondly] On deck, you scabrous dogs! Man the braces! Let down and haul to run free. Now...bring me that horizon. [hums and takes out his compass] And really bad eggs?drink up, me 'earties, yo ho."

Taken from the actual script as found at [[http://saintvitus.com/Pirates/Songs/Pirates_of_the_Caribbean.script.html ]] and cross referenced by the film its self. 81.23.54.136 (talk) 07:24, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Count Your Blessings.jpg

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[edit] Nottingham incident

We have sources, so this should remain. The exact wording, and the details are subject to debate, but information about the incident should be included in some form. exolon 22:00, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I've added the info from the edits I reverted regarding the second court appearance, but we need a citation link if anyone can find one, I couldn't! exolon 22:11, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
- Please dicuss here before removing info from this section!exolon 00:53, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  - I've edited to make more prominent the whole incident is at this time only alleged, not proven. Other editors please feel free to tweak wording as necessary to this end. exolon 21:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  - the band have NOT been banned from Rock City - this is just rumour. I have deleted this entry. Also, I;m sure Wikipedia wouldn;t be happy with you saying 'many have condemned'. I thought you weren't meant to write that?
    - Please sign your edits using four tilde marks like this ~~~~. Feel free to reword the "many have condemned" line - I didn't write it, merely restored it. If you have a source showing that the band haven't been banned from the club, then cite it and add the information. At the moment we've got a source for the banning, and no source to say they are not. So it's gone back in.exolon 18:33, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
      - Just beacuse a journalist says they are banned does not mean that they are. If they were banned, then how is that they are play there on the first of december? Ring up anybody at Rock City and they will tell that they are not band. Ask the promoter, tour manager, label, whoever you like. THE BAND ARE NOT BANNED FROM ROCK CITY.
        
        Ringing up Rock City is original research and not allowed (see WP:OR). Find a press release from the band or preferably the venue stating this. Or a link on the Rock City site showing the upcoming show would be fine as well. In short we need EVIDENCE, not just your random comment. exolon 22:36, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
        
        I've found the listing on Rock City's site, so will link and add relevant commentary. exolon 22:40, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
        
        Thank you - and this is not just my 'random comment'. I work directly with this band. The journalist or whoever said that they were banned was speculating and wrong.
        
        No problem. Without wanting to labour the point, please be aware that we can't take your word for it that you work with the band - anyone can say this. You're welcome to edit and contribute to the article but please understand the various policies that apply - especially WP:NPOV, WP:RS & WP:COI in your case. exolon 18:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Protection

BOOBIES —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.158.194 (talk) 19:04, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Is it possible that this could be more zealously protected? Despite its semi-protected status, it seems that the article is still open to abuse Andyroo g 10:33, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] nottingham incident?

I am a friend of BMTH on myspace and they posted a bulletin stating that they have not replaced their drummer or singer and that stuff like that are just rumours. So i think the nottingham incident section should be edited, or removed, as its plainly been made up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.97.237 (talk) 23:46, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

The information about the drummer/singer replacement has been removed as there is no source or evidence. The info about the incident itself remains, as we have sources for all the information presented there. Exxolon 18:20, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gigantour.

Are these guys playing the Australian Gigantour this year?? Welshy1791 07:18, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeh —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xchiodosx (talk • contribs) 19:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Idiots...

This band isn't Black Metal.... -_-

How about you guys actually listen to the band before you edit things that aren't correct in eh?.

Deathcore =/= Black Metal

I also wouldn't call them Death Metal either, that's why they're DEATHCORE. Similar, but not quite the same thing.

Also, where it says that Bludgeoned to Death is an unreleased song is complete fucking bullshit, that song is in no way, shape or form Bring me the horizon's, that song was written and recorded by Suicide Silence and released on their album the cleansing

YES! this guy up here is clearly correct! i have bludgeoned to death.. it is by SS and yes from the cleansing! how could you people not know that!? aganjsdfgnajkfgelwog duh!

[edit] Eyeless

You should add in that they did a slipknot cover-eyeless. On the cd: Kerrang - Higher Voltage (2007) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lostprophets543 (talk • contribs) 23:11, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oli Sykes picture

Picture at top left is in an innapropriate position. Is it even nesscasary to have a picture of him? Or perhaps a picture of all the band. --86.131.194.244 (talk) 18:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Album

according to Kerrang, the album coming out later this year is called Suicide Season. can somebody edit this in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.32.62 (talk) 12:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tour

Bring Me The Horizon Have joined the band I Killed The Prom Queen during there last tour and final tour "the say goodbye tour" also the red shore and the ghost inside have joined the lineup for this tour —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikilledthepromqueen-666 (talk • contribs) 12:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)