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Typo alert, folks. It's 'Reinelt', not Rienelt!
In reference to the link to Dean Hammond in the squad list. Is this the same Dean Hammond, as I have no idea what Action Indoor Soccer is. Anyone know anything? Grovers 19:08, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Rivalry
Why are Brighton and Palace rivals, given that Brighton and Croydon aren't exactly in close proximilty to each other....? ChrisTheDude 12:31, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- The million dollar question! And one there are loads of answers to. There has always been rivalry between the two clubs but it really came to a head one boxing day in Brighton when Brighton fans started replying to the Palace "Eagles" chants with chants of "Seagulls". There were running battles all over town. The clubs current nickname and badge both date from that day (Prior to that the club's nickname was The Dolphins). Some (including the Palace wikipedia page) claim that the rivalry dates back to the 1976 FA cup. A post in this thread on the CPFC forum is possible the most enlightening: [1]Fork me 17:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Name
Though Brighton & Hove Albion F.C. is the generally used designation and appears in the Club's mailing address and on their website, Brighton and Hove Albion F.C. is plainly the official name as can be seen from the footnote here. I have altered the Full name in the info box, accordingly. However, I think that it should be considered whether the name of this article should also be changed. It is normal on WP for the full name to entitle the article save the use of F.C.. BlueValour 02:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Encyclopedic or not?
A chunk of this page was removed by an anonymous user, the reason given being "Encyclopedia or yearbook?". This user MAY have a point, but before such a huge chunk of an article is merely removed (especially by someone posting anonymously) it would be realistic to have a discussion on this page. Whilst I think the section needs cleaning up (and will do so once I get the time) I don't think that up-to-date information is unsuitable for an online encylopedia. Indeed, a major strength of Wikipedia over conventional printed encyclopedias is that it is updated constantly and covers current events. The amount of information given should be up for discussion (eg not every game should be covered) but the change of playing style and improvements in results since appointing a new manager is encylopedic (as long as neutral POV is adhered to. Fork me 09:54, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- I agree the section shouldn't have been just removed like that, but I think a long narrative on the fortunes of the club this season is a little dull and not appropriate for an encyclopedia. Only events and games of particular note (like the Withdean record 8-0 thumping on Northwich!) should be included and the whole thing should probably be revisited at the end of the season and condensed down to a couple of paragraphs. Wjousts 16:05, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
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- That would certainly seem like a sensible line to me. (ps, I was at Withdean yesterday! What a game!!) Fork me 16:54, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Tom Bassam?
Who is Tom Bassam? He is on the squad list. I've not heard of him, and he's not listed on the official website. Grovers 18:10, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Club history
This section is rather lop-sided at present. The period from 1901 to 1979 is all of two lines long, whereas the 2006-07 season gives a match by match account. I am trying to expand the article on former manager George Curtis and was trying to see what Brighton achieved (if anything) under his management. Daemonic Kangaroo 07:19, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Charity Shield
Hmmm, the article says they won the Charity Shield in 1983, which doesn't seem right, since they didn't win the F.A. Cup final. But apparently they did win once in 1910. Sounds right? Dave w74 08:07, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] League One and Two Champions
According to the Seagulls official site, we were League Two Champions in 1958 and League One Champions in 1965. This has now been added in addition to our 2001 and 2002 league titles. Vincent B, 11:00, 9th June 2007.
[edit] Managers and Honours
Can someone with more knowledge please fill in and attempt to complete accordingly. If you have doubts about the presentation, you can message me on my talk page.User:1066seagull
Reply: Hi, I have all the league positions from the 1898-99 season up to the 1977-78 season, including the division, position, Wins, Draws, Losses, For, Against, and Points, and i have started to fill tem into a table in the Honours section. Please do not delete it bacause it is not yet completely finished. Also, as a see the FA cup section is a bit shabby, i have all the FA cup fecords from 1898 up until 1978, including all the teams played during the season and the scores for each of those games EG 1971-72 Starting First round Proper Albion 7 Hillingdon Borough 1 Albion 1 Wallsall 1 REPLAY Wallsall 2 Albion 1
If it is in the peoples interest, i could fill this into the FA cup section of the honours page. If you would like me to do this, please e-mail me at joeyjackson25@hotmail.com
[edit] 2006/7 summary
I've pretty much re-written this, it's not as much of a mess as it was but is still possibly a bit overlong, any thoughts?
[edit] "History" Section
It seems to me that the History section in this article is far too long. Why have separate sections been given to, quite frankly, uneventful periods in the club's life? I feel that the article could be massively improved by cutting chunks from this section, perhaps summing up the relegations to conclude at where they are today. I don't believe that there is any need for a biography of the club...this is an encylcopaedia, and as such, I feel that a summary over a few paragraphs would do the article more justice. At the moment, it seems as though it is a timeline of all of the goings on at the club over the past twenty years... every managerial change... Certainly in its current form the History section looks cluttered and un-encyclopaedic. I think that the creation of a separate article entitled "History of Brighton & Hove Albion FC" would make more sense, if there is enough material, or the sub-sections converted into a single, flowing, section, like in other footballing articles. Comments? Toon 22:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- What about the history of the club prior to 1979? Who founded the club & why? Something of interest must have happened in the first 80 years or so of the club's existence. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 08:37, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Notable Players
Rami Shabban? Are you sure? He played a few times at the tail end of the season - I appreciate he's quite well known, but not as a Brighton player. Also - what about Stuart Storer? (Last goal at the Goldstone), Clive Walker (How many professional games did he play?!)? - is there a 'criteria' for inclusion, is what I'm asking basically. Muchclag (talk) 22:42, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- Rami Shabban should be removed. Add the others, as they are clearly notable. Criteria for inclusion would be the same as for a Wikipedia article - clear notability via fame or infamy, how much were they talked about in print or on the internet - that sort of thing. Ref (chew)(do) 22:11, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Peter O'Sullivan was added, but has now been removed as the link to Peter O'Sullivan indicates a hurling sportsman. Does anyone with good information wish to create the article at Peter O'Sullivan (footballer)? Taylor159370 13.50, 7th June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.167.152 (talk)
[edit] Introduction / Fight for a Stadium
The last paragraph of the introduction and the whole Fight for a Stadium section are very similar, shall sections of the last paragraph be moved in to the Fight for a Stadium section? Taylor159370 13.43 7th June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] New kits
Why have the kits for the club been updated, when yet these are just predicted designs that have appeared on North Stand Chat and in the Argus? Surely these are un-reliable soucres of information as the designs haven't been confirmed by the club yet? Taylor159370 13.53, 7th June 2008 (UTC)
