Talk:Brighton, Boston, Massachusetts
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[edit] Terminology
Do we need both "blue collar" and "working class" in the opening sentence? They strike me as synonymns, and therefore redundant. Miss w 12:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
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- The phrase "working class" seems like a loaded term used by those who don't consider the upper economic "classes" (if you believe American society is actually divided into classes) to "work".
- "White collar" and "blue collar" do not seem like standard economic classification for jobs. The article needs to either define these terms, or preferably use more standard classifications like "service" and "manufacturing".
-- Beland 23:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ambiguous Green Line reference
The article currently reads:
- The forerunner of what is now the MBTA's "Green Line" light rail line
Which, the B, C, or D? -- Beland 05:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hunting and Comm Ave and development
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I removed the following from the article:
- Now populated by recent immigrants and college students, Brighton was as late as 1900 still Boston's hunting ground. Hunting ceased when Commonwealth Avenue was extended from Boston's Back Bay section through Brighton to the neighboring city of Newton and Boston College, a development that firmly cemented the westernmost part of the city to its municipal heart.
I'm not exactly sure when the Kenmore-to-Boston College segment of Commonwealth Avenue was put in, but it had to be before 1895, when its article says the Newton extension was added. (It would be good if someone could track that down using printed books...I've checked some online sources, and not had much luck.) The Kenmore-to-Public Garden portion appears complete on 1880 maps. It was indeed not until 1900 that the streetcar began running on Comm Ave.
I tend to doubt the claim that what cemented Brighton to Boston was the creation of Comm Ave. Beacon Street ran to southern Brighton in 1850, and had electric streetcars by 1889. Northern Brighton sounds like it was a bustling commercial center as far back as the 1700s, and it had railroad access in the early 1800s. Comm Ave does seem to cut through the central part of the territory of Brighton (as distinct from Beacon Street, which is actually mostly in Brookline), and so perhaps could be describe as having some role in taming that part of it. I'm curious to know where this information about Brighton being the "hunting grounds" of Boston is coming from, and to get a better idea of when and why that period ended. -- Beland 00:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Brighton Today
Harvard Avenue is in Allston. Unless someone disagrees I am going to remove it in a few days. --Vorenus 18:17, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A few suggestions for Cleanup
The page needs a map with Brighton's borders.
References are needed.
Those one-sentence paragraphs need to be condensed into proper English paragraphs - this isn't class notes, it's an encyclopedia.
The picture is a poor one - it says nothing about Brighton.
"The Suburb" section should probably be broken up.
"Yuppie" is not encyclopedic - think of an analogous term for a racial or ethnic group - it wouldn't work. Yuppie is not neutral, it's disparaging.
Why are Jews left out of "most prominent groups", and then mentioned later? Are Jews different? Aren't the Jews in Brighton and Brookline a specific group? where are they from? When did they arrive? Facts are good. MarkinBoston 01:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Brighton & Allston
Stop calling Allston and Brighton "one" community. They are distinct and Brighton residents don't wish to be confused with run-down Allston. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.119.156 (talk) 17:24, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
- No one here is exactly calling them one community, though it is undeniable that the term "Allston-Brighton" is in common use. As we are writing an encyclopedia here, your latest edit, however valid, is commentary, and that is viewed as "original research" and contrary to wiki policy unless sourced. Please sign your posts by typing four ~s. Thank you. Hertz1888 (talk) 17:36, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
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- To answer this properly, one needs to explore the history of the town of Brighton, which is glossed over in the article, but should not be. See articles on Allston, Boston and Brookline for some answers. Basically, Brighton was an independent town, with Allston as its eastern part. Allston was never an independent town. The town of Brookline once extended north to the Charles River and separated the town of Brighton from the city of Boston. Brookline ceded enough of its river shoreline so that Boston would be contiguous to Brighton and could annex it, which Boston then did in 1874. In conclusion, it would seem that, whether we like it or not, Brighton and Allston, share a common history to 1874 and since then have understandably been treated in many ways as a single unit by the city of Boston. clariosophic (talk) 20:19, 26 November 2007 (UTC) clariosophic (talk) 20:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
