Talk:Bridge of the Gods (geologic event)

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Contents 1 Comment from Bonneville Slide article 2 Comments from this article 3 Proposed merge 4 Failed proposal?

[edit] Comment from Bonneville Slide article

(merged 3/08)

The putative "five hundred years ago" and "18th century" (e.g. 1700) dates do not match. Hu 21:20, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

• Be Bold! Teke 02:21, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I believe this slide was dated at approximately 850 y.b.p. The source was radiocarbon dating of wood fragments from the former stream bed that were buried under the landslide. The wood fragments were uncovered during the excavation for the Second Powerhouse at the Bonneville Dam and during subsurface investigation for the Bonneville Juvenile Fish Bypass structure.--Kern doggie 17:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comments from this article

Has it been verified geologically? Everything I've seem refers to it as an Indian myth. The size of the Columbia also makes it highly unlikely.

"According to the lore of these tribes, long ago a huge landslide of rocks roared into the Columbia River near Cascade Locks and eventually formed a natural stone bridge that spanned the river. The bridge came to be called Tamanawas Bridge, or Bridge of the Gods. In the center of the arch burned the only fire in the world, so of course the site was sacred to Native Americans. They came from north, south, west, and east to get embers for their own fires from the sacred fire." [1]

Yes, the original contributor was on target here. I don't have a citation right now, but I am sure that it has been researched and verified geologically. I'll insert an appropriate reference when/if I come across it again. Ipoellet 18:46, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed merge

The articles Bridge of the Gods (geologic event) and Bonneville Slide deal with overlapping and very closely related topics. Specifically, the Slide article appears to approach the issue as a geophysical event investigated through contemporary scientific methods, while the Bridge article examines the same event through the lens of Native American folklore. Both aspects could be given added dimension by being dealt with in a single article, with text specific to each aspect separated out under distinct headlines.

I recommend "Bridge" to be the final destination article name because: (a) it is the older name for referring to the same historic event; (b) it seems to be the better known name, i.e. I'd heard the Bridge of the Gods name before coming to Wikipedia, but not Bonneville Slide; and (c) it stands in neat complementarity to Bridge of the Gods (modern structure).

See also: Wikipedia:Merging and moving pages

-Ipoellet 20:19, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

• merge: both articles are a bit light on content now and will combine nicely. Having them separate is a light shade of POV actually. :-) —EncMstr 20:31, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• merge: same event. Use Bridge of Gods as title. One article can easily cover both the folklore and geologic background. Aboutmovies 18:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Hearing no objections, it appears we have consensus. I'm proceeding with the merger, and expect to be done in the next several days. For intermediate drafts, see User:Ipoellet/Sandbox 3. -Ipoellet 19:55, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

• Merge per above. Katr67 18:02, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I have a draft of the merged article in progress at User:Ipoellet/Sandbox 3. -Ipoellet 19:25, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I was going to say keep separate until I saw Ipoellet's draft. It could use more geological data, if available, but is otherwise a nice combination. Merge, but if new research makes the Bonneville Slide more prominent than the legend, don't be afraid of a name change. MMetro 02:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Missed this before, but I'd say about time, as long as somebody's willing to do the work. Thanks for taking this on Ipoellet!! -Pete 03:01, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

My comment is late, but the merge hasn't happened. I'd rather see them separate, and hope someone can provide more geologic detail to the "Bonneville Slide" article (or "Bridge of the Gods (Geologic event)"). The story and geology don't fit that well to my eye. Pete Jacobsen (talk) 02:32, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Failed proposal?

OK, this proposal has been dead in the water (pun unintended) since April, despite what appears to be a consensus to merge. Anyone mind if I remove the tags and if Ipoellet gets around to finishing the merge project, we can agree to that change without prejudice? Katr67 (talk) 01:56, 12 January 2008 (UTC)