Talk:Brian Zahnd
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[edit] notability tag
Why did the notability template get removed? Nothing was changed in the article and I believe this person is completely unknown outside of local circles. Largesock 17:31, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- I've updated it to references needed tag as notability is certainly asserted. Benjiboi 22:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you, Benjiboi. I can definitely get behind that -- just curious to see those citations. ;) Largesock 14:05, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Well I hear you but nothing presented has suggested that anything here is untrue, he/or the church may a bit out of the box but certainly seems to exist. If, for whatever reason, this information has been falsified it will quickly be sorted out. My hunch is that it's a big successful church with its own (to me) non-exciting history; they'll have dramas and "victories" and when something is big enough to warrant media attention that will documented. the "boring" work they do, generally, is not written about, they just do it (food programs, helping the poor and disadvantaged, etc. If you feel something is controversial then either bring it here or tag for fact or citation. I personally don't see them as terribly controversial but I also have never heard of them prior to this so wouldn't know if there was some issue brewing. Benjiboi 19:52, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- No, no, I don't believe they're controversial. It's just that the notability guidelines require much more than local fame. It specifically mentions, for example, mayors not qualifying simply on the basis that so many people know them and/or they're important within the community. I just don't think Brian Zahnd or anything he does has transcended that level of local fame. I also think the article reads not like an encyclopedia entry but more like a publicity sheet or self-written bio. Largesock 21:52, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Then fix it. Try removing POV or weasely words, we're trying to be accurate so help it along. It's a huge church by any standards and he's the one behind it so I think it's fair to say even if he died today the article would at least document he existed and the work he did. It's not uncommon for articles to glow about their subjects; I've found that often people who either like or dislike a subject do the writing so those of us outside need to help refocus on the facts that are verifiable. Benjiboi 22:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- No, no, I don't believe they're controversial. It's just that the notability guidelines require much more than local fame. It specifically mentions, for example, mayors not qualifying simply on the basis that so many people know them and/or they're important within the community. I just don't think Brian Zahnd or anything he does has transcended that level of local fame. I also think the article reads not like an encyclopedia entry but more like a publicity sheet or self-written bio. Largesock 21:52, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Well I hear you but nothing presented has suggested that anything here is untrue, he/or the church may a bit out of the box but certainly seems to exist. If, for whatever reason, this information has been falsified it will quickly be sorted out. My hunch is that it's a big successful church with its own (to me) non-exciting history; they'll have dramas and "victories" and when something is big enough to warrant media attention that will documented. the "boring" work they do, generally, is not written about, they just do it (food programs, helping the poor and disadvantaged, etc. If you feel something is controversial then either bring it here or tag for fact or citation. I personally don't see them as terribly controversial but I also have never heard of them prior to this so wouldn't know if there was some issue brewing. Benjiboi 19:52, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you, Benjiboi. I can definitely get behind that -- just curious to see those citations. ;) Largesock 14:05, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi large sock. I attend the word of life church in saint Joseph Mo. I have a couple commnts. Pastor Brian Zahnd is a worldwide traveler and preacher. He continously travels the world preaching and heading projects to help the underpriviledged with basic needs of daily living. I have read the article entry on Brian Zahnd and know that the statements are true. Pastor Zahnd and his wife Peri are genually good and loving christian people. Brian Zahnd is known through many countries around the world his television program can be viewed in moscow, european countries and islamic countries and I am certain many others. Cindy W. Saint Joseph Mo.