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[edit] Salary - $10 Million

IMDB News reported on November 23, 2006 that he and Meredith Vieira would not take pay-cuts amidst NBC news employee pay-cuts. Garrett.Graff (talk) 00:41, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] revert page

Can someone revert the page please? I don't know how to do that. HiS oWn 20:14, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Done, though it seems the version (and all others I checked) I reverted it to have an incomplete CNBC section. Tockeg 22:17, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Replaced Birth Place

Willimas was born and raised in Elmira, New York, not South Africa.

Born in South Africa? I know many who were born there and they have a definite accent which Brian certainly doesn't have :). 69.133.89.131 (talk) 02:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] History Section Removed

This allegation of racism link is completely bogus -- it links to a no-name newspaper with an extremely short article completely lacking in real info. It has NO credibility whatsoever and should be removed. I keep up with the news very well, and have NEVER heard a single allegation of racism against Williams. EDIT: looks like someone with a brain removed it.

I have removed the History section because it is a word by word copy for Brian's Williams Bio on WSMV's web site. [1]

Jonyyeh 20:16, 25 April 2006 (UTC) Could someone check the page history and look at the History section I decided to remove?. I need to know if it is a copyright violation. Jonyyeh 20:59, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

There was an NBA player named Brian Williams (who later changed his name to Bison Dele) who was lost at sea in 2002 with his girlfriend and is presumed dead [2]. The story was quite high-profile. Maybe it's best to have a disambiguation page? (I'd be willing to write an article sometime next month for Bison Dele. I'm surprised there currently isn't one.) --Idont Havaname 18:24, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I think a disambig page is unnecessary. There is one MAJOR person named "Brian Williams", and two minor who are linked (in wiki fashion) at the bottom of the page. If we had two high profile people with the same name, then yes. It's fine without a disambig page, though. Write the article for Dele if you like, but no disambig page is necessary. He's already linked at the bottom. --ABQCat 18:34, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Ok, my article about Dele is up now. --Idont Havaname 22:03, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Is writing articles according to future plans the best idea? This article previously stated that he assumed (past tense) anchor duties on December 1, 2004. Clearly, this is the plan, but until it happens it's still up in the air.

[edit] Reasons for disambig

Would it make more sense for the (MUCH) more well known and cited person to have the main article and the secondary person (as there's only one, in this case) to have a small blurb at the bottom or top or just a link to their own article?

Some evidence for my point: Google search for ""Brian Williams" +cbc" gives 3470 results. Google search for "Brian Williams" +nbc gives 32000 results.

Maybe it's less obvious than you'd think, but if a person looks up Brian Williams, I think an article with info on both on the same page is less confusing. I'm not sure on the policy on this, but I was just wondering if it would make sense. --ABQCat 05:24, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Should not be confused with...

He should not be confused with the Canadian sportscaster or professional athelete - especially because the title of this article is Brian Williams (news anchor). A person is unlikely to type or search that particular article title without understanding who they're looking for. I think a secondary disambiguation on a disambiguated article is redundant and should be removed. --ABQCat 10:58, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] should we...

shouldn't we include Brian Williams controversial view when he defended G. Gordon Liddy and his actions during the watergate scandal.

Libby .. and where is the necessary citation in which he did do just that? 69.133.89.131 (talk) 02:07, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Time to move.

As a few people have guessed at before, this article needs to be at Brian Williams. When one person gets over 90% of the Google hits, he's clearly the most important one, and thus the most indisputably likely to be searched for, which means that he belongs on the main page, with a link to Brian Williams (disambiguation) at the top, where the links to the other guys should be. Or just link to the other Brillian Williams fellows at the top of this page if you prefer, since there aren't that many. Then we wouldn't even need a disambig page. Either way, this belongs on Brian Williams. -Silence 08:01, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Evil

Brian Williams ... made fun of Conan O'Brien on Late Night and has a poor reputation with many people. I think this should be added to the article. 66.41.212.243 23:12, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

This does not make him evil! And this should not be added to the article! --Siva1979Talk to me 20:32, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I second that, unless however there is proper reference :]. 69.133.89.131 (talk) 02:09, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
From the first sentence, above, I'm removing a violation of WP:BLP#Non-article space, which reads in part, "Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons—whether the material is negative, positive, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion, from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space." (Emphasis mine.) --Art Smart (talk) 02:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV in Rise to the Throne

I removed this: "He has also been accused of lacking depth and understanding, and an inability to convey the subtleties of complex news events." because it does not have a citation and appears to be an unsubstantiated opinion. I will support adding it back if and only if someone can produce a credible citation.

[edit] Why the Weird White Eye Makeup?

Any explanation of the weird white eye makeup he wears on-camera? If it was just to cover bags etc it would be flesh-colored, to make it so weirdly whitish makes me think there is some other hypnotic effect being sought, akin to the lush lip gloss on some announcer starlets.


[edit] Family section

I have removed this. It was unsourced and non-encyclopedic. Frankly, the fact that he has two nephews is about as interesting as the fact that I have 15 cousins. Danny 21:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Made a mistake

I deleted something, accidentally. Please forgive me. Please help revert it!!!!!!!N734LQ 22:48, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture of Brian Williams was added to the article

I've added a better picture of the NBC Nightly News anchor. I hope that will work for this article. Megamanfan3 01:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

    • It looks like the picture either didn't work or was taken down. You'd think we'd have a picture of one of the "100 most influential people in the world".--Zombiema7 19:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brian Williams says there are errors

http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/wewantmedia/node/487

"On the Internet, no one knows if you’ve been to Ramadi or you’ve just been to Brooklyn and just have an opinion about Ramadi," said Williams.

"And now, apparently because encyclopedias were too exact, we have Wikipedia, the inexact encyclopedia. We don’t get hung up on facts. In my entry alone there are seven errors, and I’m completely unimportant."

128.206.155.148 14:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Interesting quote... maybe he'd like to help us correct those errors rather than simply guessing? Anson2995 16:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Not if he thinks the project's worthless, he won't. Any guesses, people? I was thinking of a tasteful template across the top, saying "there are seven errors in this article. Please help us find and correct them", with 'seven' perhaps in a different font and color. Hornplease 18:35, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
No reason to guess. It's not that long of an aritcle -- seventeen sentences and eleven bullet items. Wouldn't take too long to confirm a source for every one of them. Anything that can't be backed by a supporting reference can be presumed an error. Anson2995 19:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Saturday Night Live

The article says that Brian Williams' appearance on Saturday Night Live was "the the first time that a network news anchor has hosted that broadcast." Although Williams himself said this during the show's opening monologue, it isn't true. Edwin Newman, the former anchor of NBC Nightly News back in the 1970s and 1980s hosted the show in 1984. Here are some sources:

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/episodes/Show_367.shtml http://imdb.com/title/tt0695017/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.17.22.100 (talk) 03:22, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cutting and Pasting NBC's Publicity Bio

I've improved and balanced the career section with some non-NBC-approved reality, but the "Appearances" section needs work. Does a bio need an 'appearances' section, for example?Haberstr (talk) 18:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)