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This map is wrong at least in Finland's borders. See eg. Grand_Duchy_of_Finland and Treaty_of_Tartu. Kahkonen 16:19, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

However, according your link the Grand Duchy ended in 1917...Arthur Wellesley 22:10, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and actually there were not signed borders before Treaty of Tartu in 1920. So, why there are current borders (signed in 1947) in the map?

You are more than welcome to fix them. Arthur Wellesley 02:29, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

I tried. Btw, there is not a licence for picture. Kahkonen 11:15, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

As anyone who knows anything about the British Empire should know, Afghanistan controlled by the British on and off for a very long period of time until finally reaching independence in 1919, that is why I chose this year for the map you see. Also There was a semi-Protectorate over Bhutan, and Nepal can be considered a colony, attaining independence in 1921...Arthur Wellesley 17:50, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

This is not correct. Nepal, Bhutan, and Afghanistan each possessed their national governements and national administrations. Only their foreign policy was to a certain degree controlled by the British. But then this was also the case in Tibet after the Treaty of Simla. Does that make Tibet part of the British Empire? Oversight over foreign policy doesn't mean the country is not independent. During the Cold War, the USSR also had an oversight over Finland's foreign policy. Finland could not freely engage in international treaties or military organizations without the approval of Moscow. Does that mean Finland was not an independent country? Check the 1897 historical map of the British Empire that appears at the beginning of the British Empire article. Afghanistan is clearly not colored red on the map, because nobody considered it part of the British Empire. As for New Caledonia, it was simply a French colony, not a British colony. HalfMoonBay 14:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

um, no Afghanistan didn't have it's own government, it was British controlled, the British finally gave up after nearly a century in 1919 however. The British Government did not officially recognise Nepal's independence until 1923. Bhutan was as much a British colony as Egypt. Technically it is still not completely independent from India, though in more recent times India pretty much butts out of Bhutan's affairs.Arthur Wellesley 03:44, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about New Caledonia, it was originally a British colony, but over run and became French penal comonly in the 1850's....However, I thin Caledonia is another name for Scotland if I am not mistaken....As for Afghanistan, read about the Anglo-Afghan Wars, Britain militarily controlled Afghanistan on and off until 1919 when they let a leader they did not put into power be the ruler of Afghanistan....You are right Afghanistan was not part of the British Empire in 1897...But it was in 1919....As for Nepal, Please read the wiki-article on Nepal's history, and the one on the Gerkas (Spelling?)...Arthur Wellesley 04:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

How exactly could the status of Afghanistan have changed between 1897 and 1919? Let's stop the non-sense. In 1919 neither Afghanistan, nor Nepal, nor Bhutan, nor Nouvelle-Calédonie (!) were part of the British Empire. Hardouin 16:40, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Hopefully it was not you that changed the map. The border of Egypt is wrong! Why are the borders the current ones? Arthur Wellesley 18:16, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Australia

Australia declared independence and federated in 1901 at Centennial Park, Sydney. Wouldn't that count as not being in the English Empire? +Hexagon1 ^(t) 09:46, 20 July 2006 (UTC)