User talk:Brent Gulanowski

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1 Welcome to Wikipedia!
2 Knowledge Categorization
3 Categorization at meta
4 Wikipedia:WikiProject Programming Languages
5 Categorization ideas
6 Look Who's Here!
7 Wikimedia Canada
8 Re: Toronto Meetup
9 Wikimania 2009
10 In Remembrance...

[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!

Hello Brent Gulanowski, welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for all your contributions. Here are some useful links in case you haven't already found them:

If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian!

—Noldoaran (Talk) 05:13, Dec 12, 2003 (UTC)

Cheers. I note you are also studying computer science. Have you had a look at the pages on object-oriented programming? Brent

No, I haven't seen that, I'll take a look, thanks. —Noldoaran (Talk) 04:01, Dec 17, 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Knowledge Categorization

The Wikipedia is a wonderful undertaking. I have to find out some more about how the content is being organized. I have to say I don't think that the links themselves are sufficient for relating articles. Something more powerful and practical would help a lot. The contents pages that have been created are great -- but every page should be in some kind of set of pages that are related, and in fact many pages might be in multiple sets. In addition, it would be essential to also define proper sub-sets and specify whether a page was a member of the parent or the child set -- never both. If a true comprehensive list of pages in a certain set was required, some kind of wiki facility could readily generate a list of all pages in proper subsets, to any level desired. Brent

There are many lists of topics on the pedia. Most articles also have a See also section where related topics go. See Wikipedia:List and List of reference tables. Alas, this is mostly done manually. Dori | Talk 04:57, Dec 15, 2003 (UTC)

Yes but don't we all hate manual labour unless it makes us fitter? But thanks for the tips. Personally I have always had a fascination with knowledge organization -- it is somewhat related to artificial intelligence, another of my interests (in the sense that knowledgeable machines will have to store their knowledge in some form -- what form will it take?). Clearly a hierarchy is not much use. I find a network (like the wiki links) is too flat, and the distance between concepts can be innacurate if merely measured according to graph theory.

I think sets overlaid on a network or a network of networks will be necessary. The wiki would be a great place to develop such a system in a practical application. Later someone might want to base an inference engine on a wiki which was organized in such a way. Brent Gulanowski

I am sure many great projects could come out of the Wikipedia. The material is there for anyone with a great idea (you can download everything here: download.wikipedia.org). A cool project came out of IBM about article histories and changes: history flow. Dori | Talk 17:16, Dec 15, 2003 (UTC)

(Proposal moved to User:Brent_Gulanowski/Categorization as per suggestion below)

[edit] Categorization at meta

Hey Brent, there is something similar that's been proposed over at meta, see meta:Categorization and maybe add your thoughts and proposal there. Dori | Talk 17:17, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointer. I have added a link to here from there. -Brent

You're welcome. Another tip, if you want to move the proposal off the talk page (which is mostly for messages between users), you can create pages in your user space. For example, you could paste it in User:Brent Gulanowski/Categorization (or whatever name you want to give it). Dori | Talk 23:43, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC)

I've been planning to get around to that, but did not know if there was a technical trick involved. Thanks yet again. (Me goes off to do that now.) Also, I did look at the stuff over at meta. I think they need to be more... rigourous, and avoid the implementation details until they have a proper logical strategy. - Brent

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Programming Languages

Would you be willing to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Programming Languages, We could really use your help. —Noldoaran (Talk) 04:00, Dec 17, 2003 (UTC)

Yes, I would. What's it about, exactly? I checked out the project page, and it's a bit unclear. There is already a list of programming languages on the programming language page. Is it a standardization effort? Should I be asking these questions there? Brent Gulanowski

See my reply on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Programming Languages. That's where you should ask thos questions. —Noldoaran (Talk) 00:53, Dec 18, 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Categorization ideas

Brent,

So, I kinda fail to see what you're adding to the conversation on categories. How is what you said different from the other categorization suggestions on meta? Categories needed? Check. Categorization by article? Check. Sub-categories? Check. Help me out here. I'm not seeing any concrete differences. --ESP 20:31, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)

??? Did you see the link to User:Brent_Gulanowski/Categorization? It sounds like you did not read the article only the summary. I suggest an implementation non-specific algorithm, while everyone else seems stuck on details of tags and such. I even specifically contrasted between various approaches: top-down versus bottom-up and a tree-graph versus a DAG structure. I can't be any more specific than that without trying to produce an implementation, which I specifically avoid because a) it is bad design and b) I don't know the language used by wikipedia. Significant differences, in my mind. Brent Gulanowski

I should also add that my primary motivation is to see any categorization method gets considered. I want to add my voice to those who support the idea. Whether it uses one or another type of system is immaterial in the long run, but I personally thought I had raised some new and valid points. If not, whatever. -- Brent

-- Hi, read your stuff hows this..

Animal, Vegitable, Mineral, Meta, Social?

Say you want AI that's meta, computor, AI But as you say it could be several paths..

Social, organizations, online, groups, wikipedia..

Just a thought Quickwik 01:18, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Look Who's Here!

Hey, Brent. Just stopping in to say Hey!

Jmcnally 17:50, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimedia Canada

Hi there! I'd like to invite you to explore Wikimedia Canada, and create a list of people interested in forming a local chapter for our nation. A local chapter will help promote and improve the organization, within our great nation. We'd also like to encourage everyone to suggest projects for our national chapter to participate in. Hope to see you there!--DarkEvil 02:05, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Toronto Meetup

TORONTO MEETUP NOTICE
	Hello Brent Gulanowski, I saw that you have listed yourself as a Toronto-area resident and I would like to inform you about a proposed Wiki Meetup. If you are interested, feel free to add your input on the Toronto Meetup talk page. Regards, Nat Tang ^{ta \| co \| em}