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Contents 1 Redirect 2 James VI 3 English people 4 Anne, 3rd Duchess of Hamilton 5 French Garde du Corps 6 Manual of Style 7 Welcome! 8 Image tagging for Image:DukeHamilton.jpg 9 Image tagging for Image:GrandadHamilton.jpg 10 Policy 11 Scottish national identity 12 Scottish Cuisine 13 Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can 14 Bass Rock 15 Whitecastle & Nunraw 16 North Berwick 17 Welcome to the Military history WikiProject! 18 Douglases 19 Bishop Gibson 20 Whiteadder water 21 Bricius de Douglas 22 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XI - January 2007 23 Scottish cuisine 24 Bricius de Douglas 25 Confectioune, Dumplin, Pudin and Desert 25.1 Dictionary of the Scots Language 25.2 Scottish Cuisine:Cakes, Breads, Desserts, Puddings and Confectioneries 26 WP:MILHIST Coordinator Elections 27 Soutra 28 Coldingham Priory 29 Re:Elizabeth, Duchess of Hamilton 30 Prigs and things priggish 31 Order of St Lazarus 32 Conflict of Interest with Hamilton related articles 33 Edit Summaries 34 WP:NPA 35 WikiProject Military History elections

[edit] Redirect

Hi there; the correct format is #REDIRECT article. Capitalisation and spacing is critical.--Anthony.bradbury 13:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] James VI

Well done!

--Amandajm 22:00, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] English people

The English people article simply claims that they can trace their heritage back to the ancient Britons, I don't understand why this is at all contentious. There is no doubt that English people are descended from ancient Britons, there's plenty of research to back this up. It is also true that many archaeologists claim to see continuity in the record throughout the period, indicating an indigenous influence on Anglo-Saxon culture. Nowhere in the article does it claim that Angles spoke Welsh. I fail to understand why it is not obvious that English peple are the product of the fusing of two cultures, that of the indigenous Brythonic peoples and that of the incoming Germanic peoples. I think I can find a reference to support this claim in Britain AD by Francis Pryor. Please don't make this sort of very big change to an article before getting consensus on the talk page. All the best. Alun 05:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anne, 3rd Duchess of Hamilton

Sounds good! Happy editing. :) --Fang Aili ^talk 22:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] French Garde du Corps

There's some bits and bobs from Susane's History of the French Cavalry in the Maison du Roi piece, but I think you already have more in Garde du Corps (France). The book I got my info from is L.A.V.V. Susane, Histoire de la cavalerie française; the Gardes du Corps are in volume one mainly, but it doesn't have much information beyond when and how they were created, uniforms, mottos and commanders. I don't know if you've tried Gallica: the subject catalogue doesn't have anything under "Gardes du Corps" or "Garde et maison militaire du roi", but that doesn't mean that there isn't anything. If you're looking for particular people, it might be helpful. There are no end of C19th periodicals on there. Apparently there's an ancient book by one Francisque Michel, Les Ecossais en France et les Francais en Ecosse (2 vols, 1862), which gets quoted quite often. Contamine's piece on Bernard Stewart, Lord of Aubigny quotes an article he wrote in Grant Simpson (ed.) The Scottish Soldier Abroad, 1247–1967 (Edinburgh, 1992), which should at least be easier to find than some antique from 1862. Probably not really helpful. If there's anything I can do, let me know. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:39, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Manual of Style

He :) would you please pay more attention to Wikipedia:Guide to layout (especially Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#Lead section) in your further contributions. Thanks and Greetings Phoe 16:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Ho ... here an additional info: please read Help:Edit summary. Best wishes ~~ Phoe _talk 23:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC) ~~

OK and no problem. Happy Birthday afterwards!

PS.: It may look good but it is definitly too much code ... so I don't use it every time :-) Phoe 00:15, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome!

[edit] Image tagging for Image:DukeHamilton.jpg

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[edit] Policy

I suggest you read the wiki Manual of style with regard to not including knighthoods for peers. Wiki articles should follow wiki style or policy guidelines so I will have to revert changes that go against them.

As to the Dukedom you're mistaken about the the remainder. Even assuming N could under peerage law confirm someone who is not the heir under the remainder to the title (which he couldn't in strict law) it would still not be held by the present duke. The clear claimant to the title is the present Earl of Derby as heir general under the terms of the original creation. Setting that aside to play fiction and assume that N restored the original title it would, under the original remainder, have descended to the daughter of the 12th Duke and her heirs male then female. It would not have jumped back all the way to the decendants of the 4th Duke this is french peerage law not scottish it was not to heirs male whatsoever. Most authorities maintain that Ns actions were a new creation which would under the law of the time be heirs male again in its french meaning not Scottish and so have become extinct with his death.Alci12 22:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scottish national identity

I've opened a Request for Comment on Scottish national identity. As an editor with previous involvement in this article, you may wish to add a statement or comment. Best wishes, --YFB ¿ 18:44, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scottish Cuisine

Hi, I'd appreciate your input on the Scottish cuisine talk page, further to our wee exchange earlier. I think there's room for compromise on this article. It is far from my intention to talk down about Scottish food and I recognise that my choice of words ("hearty") didn't adequately describe the real situation. I've suggested a way forward on the talk page of the article - let me know what you think! Thanks, Nach0king 13:50, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

[edit] Bass Rock

If you can help I think this article should carry the island's correct name, which is The Bass. I know that locals here commonly call it the Bass Rock, but that is incorrect. These forms of vulgarisation of place-names in Scotland are common. Any map correctly calls it The Bass. At least there should be some sort of invisable redirection link so that any references to The Bass take one to the article. (Did you realise that your user page has you living both in East Lothian AND Ireland. Is that possible?) Regards, David Lauder 16:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Whitecastle & Nunraw

I initially answered your questions on my Talk Page. Regards, David Lauder 08:13, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Could you please have a look at the work I have done on the Whitecastle page. There needs to be some sort of redirection set up for Nunraw. Alternatively the page renamed Nunraw with a Whitecastle redirection (which would probably make more sense). David Lauder 11:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] North Berwick

You asked if I knew anything about North Berwick Castle. I presume you mean the ridge to the east of the town known locally as Castle Hill? The remains, concealed in its grassy mound, are of that castle. Andrew Spratt, something of an expert on East Lothian castles, Peles, etc., wrote an article, with a brilliant "as it might have looked" drawing, on North Berwick Castle in the magazine East Lothian Life, number 29, Spring 1999 ISSN . He states that in the 14th century Sir Robert Lauder of The Bass built a stone tower with barmkin on the site, but abandoned it within a century. He says they used the stone to reinforce the castle on The Bass as well as their Tyninghame Pele Tower. Hope that helps. David Lauder 11:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Douglases

Hey. I've gotta be honest, I'm not sure I know what comments/conversation you're referring to. Interesting to note is that in Scotland the name Bricius is typically a Latin/French "transation" of the native names Gilla Brigte and Máel Brigte, "Briget's lad" and "tonsured devotee of Briget" respectively; the church of Douglas was dedicated to St Briget/St Bride. This, I would suggest, is no coincidence. Archibald, I thought, is certainly the later English rendition of Flemish Arkenbald Looking over de Dovglas and de Muref naming patterns, Flemish names feature prominently and confirm their respective Flemish origins. I'd guess they were in the same group of Flemings hired in by David I. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 23:43, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bishop Gibson

Greetings. I have answered your query on my Talk Page. Found something further on Gibson. Regards. David Lauder 10:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Whiteadder water

Pronounced with a wh sound not a w. Blackadder has the emphasis on the first syllable. - Kittybrewster 09:41, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand IPA. Whiteadder - emphasis on the first syllable which rhymes with hit and pit. The second syllable rhymes with shirt. The final e rhymes with pert and flirt. - Kittybrewster 15:35, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

It is pronounced Whit - adder locally. David Lauder 17:07, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bricius de Douglas

Hiya, I have in my notes (unfortunately I didn't keep the reference although I could probably find it with a good bit of searching) that all the brothers except Archibald went to Moray. They probably were not all there at the same time though. Bricius became bishop, Alexander was Canon of Spynie as was his brother Henry; Hugh and Friskin both became Dean of Moray. A couple of sources say that William de Duglas married a sister of Friskin de Kerdale (an estate at Boharm) and hence the introduction of the "Friskin" name in the Douglas family and the three stars in the coat-of-arms. Regards --Bill Reid | Talk 09:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Scottish cuisine

I noticed you are a major contributor to this article and would appreciate your views on this here. Talk:Scottish cuisine#NPOV GameKeeper 23:12, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bricius de Douglas

I'm not sure what the problem is. I did not remove the information you put in, but reorganized it for style reasons. You'll see that the info is still there. Regarding "petty", this does not mean the lordship had no importance, it just distinguishes it from magnate lordships like Annandale (large scale, regality legal jurisdiction, etc) and princely lordships like Galloway or the Isles. Regarding "the peerage was not as hierarchical in terms of nomenclature", well, firstly, there was no "peerage" in Scotland until the 1440s, and secondly, nobility was hierarchical; a lord/prince (rí) or earl (mormaer) had much more status than a thane (toisech) or Anglo-Norman magnate or baron. In the scheme of things in 12th and 13th century Scotland, the Douglas lord was a minor royal demesne baron; Bricius, if he was in fact a "Douglas", achieved far more status than any of his pre-Wars of Independence relatives. And dozens of other families of like rank also produced bishops; a bishopric was, after all, often a reward for meritorious service as a royal functionary. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 13:31, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Confectioune, Dumplin, Pudin and Desert

[edit] Dictionary of the Scots Language

confectioune

A confect or sweetmeat

pud(d)in(g

A pudding of the haggis variety made of the stomach or part of the entrails of a sheep or other animal, stuffed with oatmeal, suet and inferior meat or offal chopped or minced, and boiled. b. The stomach or entrails of an animal prepared to serve as the skin of such a pudding.

Desert,Also: dessert ...

A course of fruit, sweets, etc., served at the end of a meal; a service of light refreshments.

dumpling

A spicy fruit pudding, often boiled in a cloth;

—Michael Fourman 07:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scottish Cuisine:Cakes, Breads, Desserts, Puddings and Confectioneries

The only possible pudding here is the clootie dumpling — which is really a dumpling. The quotation including desert glasis suggests to me something akin to cranachan.

Furthermore, under confectioune we find Certane confectioune disches maid of glas for desert

—Michael Fourman 08:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Soutra

Just a jot to say that according to Colin McWilliam's architectural books, which Nikolaus Pevsner edited, Soutra Aisle is in Midlothian. Thats what the 1984 Ordnance Survey Landranger 66 map says also. So do you think the comment saying it is in the Scottish Borders should be changed? David Lauder 21:01, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Please can you answer this. I note your reversion but you give no reference to support it as being in the Borders, whereas I give two pretty good references for it being in midlothian. What is you authoritative source? David Lauder 14:25, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for the note on my talk page. I answered it there. David Lauder 07:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Coldingham Priory

I see you have started an entirely new page on Coldingham Priory. But there was already a page on Coldingham, most of which was about the Priory. The village would be of no consequence whatever without the Priory. Do you not think these pages should be merged? David Lauder 21:05, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Elizabeth, Duchess of Hamilton

Hello. My intention was to include the surname in the move but I've just realised I missed out the Douglas(-). I'm well aware of the things you've mentioned but we include surnames in the pagename here so I've moved it again. Craigy (talk) 15:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prigs and things priggish

I just added Fowler's brilliant definition of a Prig to your article. I hope it stays on WP - maybe a little discussion of the term's class connotations, or something like that, could go in to persuade the admins to keep it?--Shtove 22:05, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Not sure how to stall the transwiki process. Basic info here [1] , but I'm not clear on the process.

I once uploaded to Wiktionary an article on the word Hubbub - it had eytmology and bits of info about its Irish origins and Edmund Spenser's role as a colonist in Munster. The article got kicked over to Wikipedia, and promptly kicked back to Wikitionary. I'm not sure where it is now - maybe cyber-purgatory.--Shtove 19:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Order of St Lazarus

When I set up this page stub I spelt it incorrectly - as the Order of Saint Lazerus. I must have been half asleep! Some one has corrected those spelling errors on the page itself but I do not know how to change the spelling in the actual page title. Can you please possibly assist? David Lauder 07:53, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

David, The usual method is Move Page. If that doesnt work (as here), try #redirect wherever (which I have done) or ask an administrator. You will have to carry your edits across. - Kittybrewster 09:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Conflict of Interest with Hamilton related articles

Brendandh, I appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia. I acknowledge that you have specialized knowledge relating to the Hamilton family name and in that respect most likely have a wealth of factual information to share. However, on Wikipedia, editors with a direct connection with a topic are discouraged from editing the related articles directly. You may find it useful to review WP:COI. Editors who find themself in this position are advised to post their information on the article talk page for consideration for inclusion. Alan.ca 11:02, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

WP:COI quite obviously refers to contentious political and other obvious issues. I find it extremely difficult to believe that it refers to genealogy and factual sourced comment on such matters - or even casual views. You are saying that anyone with the surname Jones must avoid anything whatsoever which has a Jones in it. Too ridiculous. Do you actually understand the meaning of "conflict of interest"? Is this your way of attempting to eliminate someone from a discussion? I think I have seen this sort of attitude somewhere else. David Lauder 13:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Summaries

Brendandh, I recently came across a guideline on edit summaries that you may find useful, WP:ES. There are editors and automated bots whom and which monitor Wikipedia for vandalism. Often a blank edit summary raises a red flag. Alan.ca 11:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:NPA

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