Talk:Breyers

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Contents 1 Breyers/Dreyers confusion 2 Stephen Breyer 3 "All Natural" 4 Reads like an Advertisement 5 Move 6 The house 7 Repeated edits from 71.224.*.*, 68.36.*.*, and 24.0.*.* (map to *.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 8 Shrinking Product Size

[edit] Breyers/Dreyers confusion

From the writing, it is not clear which brand is considered the knock-off of the other? As a Philadelphian, I know Breyer's much better, but this might not hold for the West Coast, so I cannot clarify! Hillsboro 16:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I thought the same thing. Still confused. cdpanic 10:26, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stephen Breyer

, grandfather of U.S. Supreme Court Associate Justice Stephen Breyer [1],

I found this bit of information interesting, but then I was unable to find a source for it, or any mention of it anywhere. The "source" links to an amazon book on ice cream, but no actual quotation to verify it. Moving to the talk page until cited.

This information can safely be ignored (or better yet deleted); the talk page for that IP address indicates at least three other counts of vandalism on the day that edit was made. Chewyrunt 16:38, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "All Natural"

Nothing about how since Breyers was purchased by Unilever they've started using emulsifiers in their "All Natural" ice cream? Carageenan, carob bean gum, something called "tara bean gum" ... and corn syrup instead of sugar. To my eye, it appears that they've been converting over, flavor by flavor, for a few years now. Now even their vanilla has gone to the dark side.

Check out carageenan in a google search. I find it scary stuff. And it's in literally almost everything.

This is, of course, the company that used to run commercials of a Mikey-like kid skeptically reading the ingredients on one of those *other* ice cream brands ("carageenan? Guar gum??") I'd add this information, but darn it, I can't find any decent sources on when they started doing it, what they've done, when their old "All Natural" ad campaign ran (70's-80's?)

• I personally remember seeing those ads in at least the 90s and possibly the early 00s, but I can't verify it with a source. Burnside65 13:59, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Where's a corporate whistle-blower when you need one?

The ingredients you listed actually are all-natural. I'd be more concerned with mono- and di-glycerides. Vranak

Please note (just corrected in the article) that although they have indeed added (natural) tara gum to their "All Natural" varieties, the other ingredients being discussed here (e.g. Polysorbate 80) have only been added to their other (low-fat, low-carb, etc.) varieties. Chewyrunt 14:19, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reads like an Advertisement

This article seems to read like an advertisement and looks like it was written by people working for the company... It's a good brand, but it needs to be less POV. I may get around to fixing it later if no one else is willing. --The Way 06:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC) It was good ice cream until recently. They say it is all natural because they put "natural tara gum" in it. Well what if they put natural MSG in it? That would be the same thing.````Fritz

I second this and have added a NPOV tag. --Inexplicable 00:36, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

What exactly sounds like an ad? The first section talks about how the "Pledge of Purity" is now obsolete. And the final section is about how many consumers are ticked off about the recent recipe changes. There are 2 links to anti-breyer's sites. To what, exactly, are you objecting?cdpanic 19:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, people. I don't know what isn't neutral about this article or how it's written like an ad. I would agree that it's a stub and needs further development, but I think the sections to which you are referring would be appropriate for a "company background" section and are not necessarily biased. I think this page is tagged incorrectly so please explain, or I'm changing the tags.cdpanic 03:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

The External Links section sounds very biased, like it's trying to spread propaganda about the company. It sounds like "you will die if you eat this ice cream". Could it be changed to just say how many of Breyers' long-time customers have been greatly disappointed to see them use preservatives now? Burnside65 14:01, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Made some POV changes - in particular toned down the "greedy corporation" stuff while keeping intact their grounds for complaint (and links to external resources) Chewyrunt 14:22, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

It is certainly true that this entry reads like an advertisement. Unilever has seed to it that no negative comments may be made. Nonetheless, Unilver has destroyed the only remaining pure ice cream, once made without tara gum or any other non dairy item. While Unilever claims that their additives are natural, so are any number of other things, from the most unmentionable to barn hay. But would you want them in your ice cream? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.36.196.246 (talk) 22:16, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Move

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. --Stemonitis 18:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The house

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[edit] Repeated edits from 71.224.*.*, 68.36.*.*, and 24.0.*.* (map to *.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)

Several of your recent edits to Breyers are not in keeping with Wikipedia guidelines. I respectfully suggest that you use this discussion page instead for opinion and commentary. Believe it or not I'm on your side regarding the changes to the product - my baby just turned one and I was looking forward to his first taste of ice cream - which I had always assumed would be Breyers - but after tasting it ourselves my wife and I decided it's not good enough for him and we're going to go with another brand (most likely Turkey Hill). Chewyrunt 16:06, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Face it. Who made the changes? Uniliver - and who owns Unilever? Just do some research - the same group who diminishes the quality. of everything. No, it's not politically correct. And they have made it virtually a horror to decry what they do, but - just look around, From Disney to Breyers to books and schools, they are determining everything. Even this passage will have a short life because they will edit it out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.224.192.194 (talk) 01:58, August 20, 2007 (UTC)

If you have useful contributions to make, please make them to the relevant articles (e.g. Jews or Unilever). If your edits are getting deleted, it is because they don't follow Wikipedia guidelines. Chewyrunt 02:39, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shrinking Product Size

Moved following text from article:

In 2001, Breyers half-gallon "brick" box was replaced by a 1.75 quart tub. In April 2008, the 1.75 quart tub was replaced by a 1.5 quart container. Prices have not changed during these transitions.^[1]

• google groups is not an appropriate cite
• should indicate that this is an industry-wide phenomenon
• NPOV: implication is that prices should have gone down with these changes, but ice-cream makers claim that the cost of ingredients has gone up and that these changes prevented prices from rising
• too sweeping: Breyers has kept the size of some of their 'classic' lines at 1.75 qt

Chewyrunt (talk) 13:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Updated with a better version to suit your notes. Also, I was unable to find evidence that any 1.75 quart tubs are still being produced. The remaining ones seems to be old stock that is being depleted.

Good work, thanks for tracking down the citations. I removed one of them (Yahoo! answers) because it only added a link to one of the other citations (which I left in). Also suggest you create an account on Wikipedia (mainly so your contribution history won't be lost if your IP address changes). Chewyrunt (talk) 20:05, 23 April 2008 (UTC)