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[edit] Article name change

I believe it is time to begin discussion on changing the name of this article to that of "Sean Paul Lockhart".

"Brent Corrigan" is a trademarked ficticous name developed by deceased Bryan Kocis at Cobra Video. With the end of Lockhart's career at Cobra, still the possibility of a trademark infringement ruling against Lockhart's use of the name and his mounting legal woes, this should be considered.

4.174.219.50 12:18, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


I wouldnt use Sean Paul Lockheart, i would use Sean Lockheart, as you dont generally always use peoples middle name.
However, i do agree in principle of moving/renaming the article at some point. Of course, an admin should do this to save the history. And then brent corrigan can become a redirect to the new page.
I cant remember for sure, but i dont think Sean/Brent has formally anounced the changing of his name to that... Reedy Boy 18:12, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Naming conventions at Wikipedia have long since settled on the use as the article name of a person's name/pseudonym at the time notability was established, with the person's birth name leading the article. If/when a court of law or Lockhart himself makes an official ruling/change, the article can be moved. As for now, it should remain as is. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 18:27, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

If he is in some way "pertinent" to the continuing Kocis murder investigation, it will be as "Sean Lockhart" (as the local press is correctly reporting) and not as "Brent Corrigan".

4.174.216.111 21:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Height

How can you with any sense of rationality say height is irrelevant when you are publishing someone's penis size?

One is a pertinent as the other.

Why don't you work on improving the Bio Info boxes if you don't agree with these lsitings?

4.174.216.111 22:37, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

There has been a major back-and-forth about this in Template talk:Infobox actor; the result so far is inconclusive. However, let me point out the bananas v. coconuts comparison you've made: a male adult film star will unquestionably have a notable endowment, but his height is no more relevant than his hair color. End of story, sorry. (Even if it was demonstrably relevant, it's not verifiable.) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 23:55, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

..."his height is no more relevant than his hair color", but yet hair and eyes are listed here.

...and in the context of penis size, it is relevant to a person's height if it is, as you say, "a notable endowment".

..."(Even if it was demonstrably relevant, it's not verifiable.) Please explain how his penis size is verifiable

4.174.217.166 00:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

First, watch your edit summaries, that last could be construed as a personal attack. Second, hair and eye color don't belong there, either; we have an image, after all. Third, endowment is to height as coconuts are to their tree (in other words, not related in any way). Fourth, it was my understanding that his endowment was cited at one point; if it's not now, it needs to be. "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." RadioKirk (u|t|c) 00:45, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

..."construed as a personal attack"; it is a reference to the page; and not to a person.

your thinking is confused--not to pursue a point--but a 7.5 inch penis on someone 5'7" has a different impact than on someone 6'4".

i will take the items out.

4.174.218.147 00:53, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

The phrase "what a piece of work" usually describes the person; if that was not your intent, I apologize. To my "thinking", the, well, adult films I've seen have never done a height-versus-endowment comparison shot, instead focusing (pun intended) on the latter; while your reasoning is (arguably) anatomically accurate, it constitutes original research and its application to the industry is simply nonexistent. Still, since the measurement itself is relevant to the subject and his work, I'd invite its restoration with a reliable source. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 01:05, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

so be it.

please respond to the more serious last topic above, especially the last entry, regarding the name change.

it seems highly likely that someone will eventually be arrested in the Bryan Kocis murder.

even at this early point, it is apparent that Sean Lockhart (and not his alter ego "Brent Corrigan") will be testifying in court over this.

this will be a nationally-reported, most likely internationally-reported, trial with the press (as they are already) citing him as Sean Lockhart.

wiki is utilized by many press outlets. not to change the article name before that time will cause confusion (as it is already).

can we agree on that?

4.130.218.45 01:17, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

If you'll forgive me, I disagree at the immediate moment, subject to change. At present, he is still best known and most notable under his "stage name", and it should remain so until it changes. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 01:21, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

i have no problem with that; but can you at least agree in principle (should the situation change)?

4.130.218.45 01:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I do, and have, if/when that time comes. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 01:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

let it be known that on this day and at this time i came in agreement with RadioKirk (u|t|c)!!!

4.130.218.45 01:36, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

LOL!! RadioKirk (u|t|c) 01:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bryan Kocis's name link

I, for the third time, have changed Bryan Kocis's name on the Kocis's Death section to a clickable link to Bryan Kocis's wikipedia article. I believe it should be kept as such since many people who are interested in searching Bryan Kocis but may not know his name, may search for it through the Brent Corrigan wikipedia article. Keeping Bryan Kocis's name as a link to his article saves people from copying and pasting his name. So please, leave it as such. JacobTwo 08:00, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

And I have, for the third time, removed it. Please see under the section "Alleged underage videos" where Kocis' name is already linked, and also the manual of style on overlinking. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 00:49, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Considering there is one link in the Kocis death section, I don't think that constitutes 10% of the document. One has to assume that many people looking for Kocis's name and only know Corrigan's name may not know anything of the "alleged underage video" and only of Kocis's death. I suppose having Kocis's name (which is the first thing in the section) as a link. 204.112.130.77 03:11, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
The issue is that the name already is linked within the article, not that we're looking at sections. This also demonstrates that "more than once" can be considered "excessive". RadioKirk (u|t|c) 06:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anonymous editing should be disabled

RadioKirk, how does one request this? There are too many spam-like entries being put on this article from anonymous sources. --Julien Deveraux 07:11, 20 April 2007 (UTC)