Talk:Bremer wall

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Are these the same thing as the Texas Barrier? I find few if any references to the "Bremer wall," and I never heard anything like it when I was in Kuwait, Afghanistan, or Iraq in 2005. Hzoi 12:45, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

This whole thing is, in my view, just plain silly. Here we are, arguing about the naming conventions and relative merits of what really amount to slabs of concrete of varying heights and thicknesses that are used for a combination of traffic control and military force protection functions. I strongly suspect that this entire article can be redirected to something dealing with traffic control and engineering. Additionally, the political undercurrents of this message seem obvious. Bdmccray (talk) 23:03, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Texas barrier?

We claim here that a Texas barrier is the same as a Bremer wall except higher. However Texas Barrier redirects to constant slope barrier which is an article about a traffic engineering obstacle only a metre high. Some clarification is obviously required but I have no idea which is right. -- Securiger 07:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This need to be changed to be called T-Wall

I lived in the largest T-wall city called the IZ or Green Zone for 3 years...never once did I even hear the term Bremer Wall. I have emailed dozens of co-workers who are all over Iraq still and no-one has ever heard that term. I have seen the purchasing documents, they are called T-Walls. I have personally been on 6 different camps and it's all the same.

Texas Barriers and Alaska Barriers and Jersey Barriers are all different. The 12 foot high ones are T-Walls.

I have only recently read about people calling them Bremer Walls and it seems to be coming from media outlets where either a random reporter spent a minor amount of time there. It was never a 'commonly used term' for the items so zero credit should be given to it. Bremer Wall appears to be a politically motivated term anyway.

Unless anyone has any serious objections, I plan on comming back to this for a rename and fixing the redirects Lightertack (talk) 14:58, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I'm in Iraq right now, have been all over the country, and without exception no soldier would know what the term "Bremer Wall" meant. T-walls are everywhere, and everyone knows what that means. Perhaps the only other thing more commonplace is the Hesco.153.29.46.60 (talk) 16:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)