Talk:Breadboard
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[edit] Breadboard vs. Veroboard
From the 'history of the name breadboard' bit I realise I could be wrong, but I've never encountered anyone calling Veroboard breadboard or breadboard veroboard.
To me, breadboard is solderless and about as thick as a slice of bread, while veroboard is PCB-with-tracks-to-cut-and-grid-of-holes stuff. It seems it could be confusing to use some historical meaning of breadboard when the modern meaning is so unambiguous.
But it's only unambiguous in my experience. So that's why I havn't changed it myself. Have YOU ever known anyone calling veroboard breadboard or vice-versa?
Mike1024 (talk/contribs) 23:44, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
I've never heard anyone veroboard breadboard or vice-versa. Go ahead and change the article (but leave a link to Veroboard somewhere). --70.189.75.148 12:01, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
- I just changed it a bit belatedly
[edit] "quick test sockets" vs. "solderless breadboards"
Is there any difference between "quick test sockets" vs. "solderless breadboards" ? (These breadboards have the outer lengthwise strip, but the "quick test sockets" don't. Is that the only difference, or is there some more significant difference I'm missing? )
- yep those are breadboards. it seems that maker sells the buss strip blocks seperately (most breadboards clip together with others of the same range in some way).
[edit] other rapid prototyping tools for electronics
Alternatives to the breadboard: Are any of these notable enough for the main article? Is there some other article these would be more appropriate in? --DavidCary 04:09, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Lego Electronic Lab Kit
- Progressive Wiring Techniques
- PCB router, PCB router PCB router
- wire wrap
- dead bug
- "rat's nest"
- Effects Building Techniques lists several other techniques
Is the connection through the rows, or coumns? -mkhan1910
I see no reason why this section is not in the article. So I added this. Neonil 13:04, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kid's images
These are the cutest wikimedia images ever.
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- No they aren't. What's with those images anyway? Why would a person that age be using breadboards???
[edit] breadboard - original use still known to many
I've been a radio amateur for about 40 years, which embraces the last years of the valve era. It was certainly not at all uncommon to knock up a 1 to 3-valver on a wooden base, and everyone would would have known the derivation of the term from construction on a real breadboard. Having just left my fifties, I hope to be around a little while yet! Bob aka Linuxlad 10:26, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'll second what Linuxlad says. Breadboarding and breadboards in the sense of "electronic circuit prototypes" predates the device in the article by at least a couple decades. Nibios 12:16, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- Then add it to the article. If you can even find some article on the good ald days of valve electronics with a photo of such a setup, even the "[citation needed]" should be happy. Simon A. 09:39, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
- Alas, our wives, or probably our mothers, long ago reclaimed the 'board for its original use :-) Linuxlad 21:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think the product in the photos is more accurately called a solderless breadboard. IMHO the origin of breadboard is more along the lines of the soldered tube construction technique mentioned above. It would probably be called dead bug or ugly bug construction today. Madhu (talk) 02:08, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] History of the illustrated breadboard?
Does anybody know how old the design is for the kind of breadboard illustrated in Image:Breadboard counter.jpg or Image:Breadboard.JPG? These look like the exact same items I was using in college EE lab back in the late 70's. It's amazing they haven't changed one iota in 30 years. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:08, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Take a look at this patent issued in 1975 assigned to Continental Specialties. I still have one of these from the late '70s. I think there were several knock offs over the years, but Continental was the first one I ever used (also of the highest quality). I'm guessing it's the original. I believe the company is now called Global Specialties. They appear to be marketing similar products today. Madhu (talk) 02:05, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] general cleanup
Whoever wrote this article really knows their stuff. However the format was a bit messy so you'll notice that I did a bit of a cleanup. Mostly I just made new sections and reworked a bit of the text so it wasn't too confusing, but the general content has remained the same. I think it is much easier to read now, so that everyone, even people of a non-technical background can enjoy it. I certainly did. I actually learnt something about breadboards not knowing much about them and was able to help contribute to Wikipedia with one of my first major edits. Da rulz07 09:40, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Citation for Polaroid camera
In the Evolution section is a paragraph about the secrecy behind the development of the integrated circuits in the Polaroid SX-70. The only reference I could turn up is on the IEEE web site [1] which requires membership (or payment) to view these documents. I'm not willing to pay, but I'm not going to add a reference for this document; I was hoping that someone who is an IEEE member may eventually read this, and check the document out. Yngvarr 20:08, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "broadband RF circuits"
I'd rather have someone confirm with me first, as I don't work with RF personally. But seriously, using breadboards for RF? Those things have horrible stray capacitance! Are you sure anyone in their right minds actually use it for prototyping RF??? 64.131.252.13 (talk) 21:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- I think the article is a bit dyslexic for this reason. The images are of what was often called a "solderless breadboard". You are correct, RF circuits don't work well on solderless breadboards, the article indirectly suggests that. What the article is trying to say is that RF prototypes are still made today, but using other techniques, e.g. ugly bug, dead bug, Manhattan style etc. I think this article should be retitled to something like "Solderless breadboard" or something like that. Breadboard, IMHO, should be a different article along the lines of "breadboard - original use still known to many" above. Madhu (talk) 21:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)