Talk:Bread and salt

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It is also an essential part of every Russian wedding, please mention that. KNewman 09:26, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Names

We'd have to list too many names in the lead considering the number of peoples and respective languages that have this tradition. Wouldn't it be better if we made a separate section just to list the names? Leaving only Russian in the lead is a bit ethnocentric. TodorBozhinov 10:23, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

What idiots!

I agree. Unless the tradition was started by one particular group of people, one should list as many as possible or nothing at all and set up a section for the list. It's a potential for confusion. For example, the picture on this article is Polish, but you have to go all the way down to "Poland" section to find how Poles call this. That's a mess. -- Revth 00:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] And then...?

It would be nice to have a bit more detail beyond the bare fact of the presentation. For example, what is the recipient supposed to do with this nice loaf of bread with integral salt-cellar? Does s/he eat it on the spot, or is it politer to embalm it and mount it in a glass case?

A bit more on the history of the tradition would also be nice; if it was observed at Pskov then clearly it's existed for over 500 years, and surely it's changed or developed in that time, but at present the article only seems to describe the modern ceremony (and one space-age innovation). — Haeleth Talk 11:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marriage

Isn't it a part of a Russian wedding ceremony too? --Frankamand 11:58, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Imaginary"?

Why is the picture described so? Is the painting perhaps imaginative? Or is it being alleged that the event did not in fact take place, or what? --Tardis 21:23, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

If you click on the picture there is blurb describing that it was painted in 1872 by Stefan Batory, and depicted events that took place in the Livonian War (1558-1583). So the artist clearly didn't witness the scene and had to imagine what it may have looked like. --Jpowell 22:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ater some consideration

Not sure if this custom has original roots in Lithuanian tradition, or rather it was imposed in soviet times, as a part of "internationalism".--Lokyz 23:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{worldwide}}

This was reverted off the article (inappropriately I believe), so I am placing it here as the issue still stands. Rhis article is lacking information on the Jewish, Indian, and Islamic traditions of sharing bread and salt. I was looking for information on the Indian tradition when I came here, so I don't know enough to add information myself right now. But you cannot have this ignore the rest of the world unless you move it to Bread and salt (Slavic). The Indian tradition is called by this name as far as I am aware.--BirgitteSB 01:23, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

You probably missed the pointer to Bread and salt (disambiguation) at the very top of the article. Your suggestion to move to Bread and salt (Slavic tradition) wil make sense only if you write a couple of other articles. In particular, the red link Bread and salt (Jewish tradition) begs to be written for a long time. There are no evil people here who "ignore the rest of the world", there is simply lack of interested people. Wikipedia works in this way: even if you "don't know enough to add" but you think that the info is useful, you start the article (by the way, google is your best friend; just don't forget that you must use reliable sources, not blogs -- a note to others who might read this; I know you know this already) and link it into several existing articles which are close in topic. In this way you attract attention of other editors who may actually help. Tagging this article is useless: experts in, say, Indian tradition, are not frequenting this article. `'Míkka>t 15:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)