User talk:Brandt Luke Zorn

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Yo. I'm sorry about what I did. It won't happen again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Criss angel lover1 (talk • contribs) 01:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Pilotguy

Sorry about that block, let me know on this page if you still cannot edit. --Pilotguy (roger that) 03:06, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Yes, I can edit, thanks for lifting the ban. I appreciate the help! --Brandt Luke Zorn 20:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Civility

Hi, I just thought I would say that your edit description on The Wicker Man is in my opinion inappropriate. The user who added the image, Davidbspalding, has significantly improved the article since he began work on it. Please keep edit descriptions civil. Thanks. Mallanox 01:01, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, yes. Sorry about that. I meant in no way to offend anyone who made contributions to the article, but the previous caption was very unencyclopedic, or at least seemed that way to me. Although I probably should have kept the crap bit to myself. Again, I must reiterate that I'm sorry to all offended parties, and didn't mean to insult anyone's contributions. --Brandt Luke Zorn 04:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smashing Pumpkins Wikiproject

I was hoping to be able to find a open-source image to use, but if none are available, another logo would do. Godlord2 07:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Looks good. You can go ahead and put it into the banner when you have the time. Thanks for the hard work. Godlord2 00:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA Pass

[edit] Your GA nomination of Adore (album)

The article Adore (album) you nominated as a good article has passed , see Talk:Adore (album) for eventual comments about the article. Good luck in future nominations. GDon4t0 21:56, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: SP Image

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_talk:Smashing_Pumpkins_pumpkin_and_mallet.png

[edit] Black Sheep (film)

Hi, I undid your edit to make it a redirect to one film. there are actually two films by that name now:

thanks, - Denny 04:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I was fixing a double redirect at Black Sheep (movie) at the time to Black Sheep (1996 film) when I changed that redirect at Black Sheep (film), but even that first one should probably be fixed now. --Brandt Luke Zorn 04:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flocabulary AFD

Hi Brandt. Wanted to give you a heads up on Flocabulary - it doesn't seem WP:A or WP:Not at this point. Mostly, it seems WP:Corp and misses POV. If you want to chew it up a bit, that's fine, but it's tilted enough to warrent afd over cleanup. Christopher Jost 01:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CotW

Hey, would you like to be in charge of updating the Alternative WikiProject Collaboration of the Week every week? Teemu08 takes care of tallying the votes and updating the required fields most of the time, but it seems like he's awfully busy to do it on a regular basis. We just need someone to do it every week in a timely manner. I just updated it for this week, but it's already two days into the week (and all those templates and fields give me a headache). Let me know if you'd be up for taking care of that on a regular basis; it'd be a big help. WesleyDodd s 09:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Sure, I could do that. No problem. --Brandt Luke Zorn 14:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template Update

Thanks for your fix for the category link! It had bothered me ever since I had had to resort to using it. You rock! Jouster  (whisper) 19:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

No problem! Glad to be of assistance. --Brandt Luke Zorn 04:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flocabulary

Updated DYK query On 2 April 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Flocabulary, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 06:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding your comments on Devil May Cry’sFeatured Article Nomination

I added a paragraph listing the negative aspects of the game listed by the reviewers that gave the game a good score, when you have the time can you please take a look at the article and reevaluate it, thanks for your time. 凶 05:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Alternative music and sources

As part of the Alternative music WikiProject, we're gathering a list of sources on this page. Could you take a look and perhaps add any written references you have access to? Thanks! CloudNine 10:13, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I do not own any book resources on alternative music or any bands; however, if I do get one I'll try not to get one that somebody else already owns. Either way, that page is a great resource - definitely will come in handy later. --Brandt Luke Zorn 03:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject The Smashing Pumpkins Redesign

Great work on the redesign of the page. It looks must nicer and it is easier to find information. Godlord2 03:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the quick feedback! --Brandt Luke Zorn 05:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I wanted to say nice work on the redesign as well. It is obviously easier to navigate to find the information you need you good job :). Debaser23 12:50, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Your GA nomination of Today (song)

The article Today (song) you nominated as a good article has passed , see Talk:Today (song) for eventual comments about the article. Good luck in future nominations. MahangaTalk 02:17, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pumpkins songs

I own the Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness guitar songbook, which reprints Billy Corgan's 1996 Guitar World columns and also includes performance notes for many of the songs. I'm a bit busy right now, but if you get to me in a week or so I can help you with some stuff, most notably "Today", for in his first column Corgan discusses how and why he wrote the intro riff to the song. The Siamese Dream songbook also has a track-by-track breakdown; I don't own it anymore, but it's browse-able on Amazon.com. WesleyDodds 10:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the info. I'll contact you in about a week. --Brandt Luke Zorn 14:36, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Congrats on the Adore FA. Drop by the Alt-Rock Wikiproject talk page in order to share your thoughts on possible future FA articles. WesleyDodds 09:11, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately when I looked back at my Mellon Collie songbook I noticed there were no notes from the editor for the song; other songs like "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" and "Zero" have them. The only thing I think that really needs to be mentioned that is indicated by the transcription is that the chorus is in half-time, meaning it's at half the speed of the main song tempo. Notice how the song has a different feel when Billy sings "Tonight . . . to-night" and then the band goes into the second verse ("And you know you're never sure/But you're sure you could be right . . ."; during this part it's back at the regular tempo). As for "Today", the most important thing missing is a table of chart positions. This is a convenient way of indicating chart peaks not just in the US, but around the world (the song charted in the UK, I know that). A soundclip of the song would be beneficial. At this point I think we need different eyes to look at the articles and offer comments. I would suggest asking ShadowHalo, who's written a number of GA and FA-level song articles, to respond to the peer reviews. WesleyDodds 10:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Subheaders verses bolding

Hey there. I noticed you reverted my changes to a Pearl Jam (album) that changed bolded text to proper subheaders, commenting that using subheaders was superfluous. Please see WP:MOSHEAD#Markup which explains that subheaders are preferred over bolded text in Wikipedia. Have a nice day. --PEJL 20:10, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Brandt Luke Zorn responded on PEJL's talk page.
(Sorry about the album mix up. I was editing too many pages at once.) The fact that they are "quality" articles doesn't mean that the formatting of them is always correct (example). There are hundreds of album articles (that I know of, probably thousands overall) using subheaders for track listings and credits sections on Wikipedia, so it's not like there isn't precedent for doing that. But whether or not other album articles (quality or not) use subheaders in certain sections is really irrelevant. If those articles need to delimit things into subsections, subheaders is the correct way to do so, and using bold text is not, per WP:MOSHEAD#Markup. The first example you gave should therefore be changed to use proper subheaders (or changed to not delimit things into subsections). --PEJL 23:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I responded on my talk page this time. --PEJL 00:39, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Brandt Luke Zorn responded on PEJL's talk page.
Great! I'm glad we could work this out. --PEJL 01:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] All Music Guide and italicization

Sorry to be such a bother, but I noticed you also changed to make the text "All Music Guide" italic on Ten (Pearl Jam album). All Music Guide is not generally italicized on Wikipedia. See for example All Music Guide, various places in WP:ALBUM and the professional reviews sections of (the majority of) album articles. --PEJL 01:39, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] E-ven floww-ohhhh . . .

I see you're working on Ten. I've got an issue of Guitar World that has a detailed, definitive article on the making of the album. WesleyDodds 07:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

That would be great, it definitely needs a "making of" section. In fact, any help would be great. --Brandt Luke Zorn 23:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dougherty Valley High School

Hi, I've nominated an article you worked on, Dougherty Valley High School, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the "hook" for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created on May 7 where you can improve it if you see fit. Regards, howcheng {chat} 21:24, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the nomination! If you haven't already seen it, I added one comment to the nomination. Thanks, --Brandt Luke Zorn 04:59, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Updated DYK query On 12 May 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dougherty Valley High School, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Wizardman 15:51, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pearl Jam

The collaboration was very effective, so I think I might put up Pearl Jam for GA nomination soon. Is there anything you can add or you think should be added to the article? WesleyDodds 05:52, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Looks great. Don't see any reason why it wouldn't pass GA with flying colors. The one thing I'd do would be to give the fair use images fair use rationales. Otherwise, the article's ship-shape. --Brandt Luke Zorn 04:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Today

According to the Smashing Pumpkins Discography page, it charted at #44 in the UK, so it wouldn't show up on EveryHit.com, which only contains top 40 hits. I find it odd that US chart placings are so much easier to track down; shouldn't there be a decent UK equivalent? The best I can offer is to try and find some British editors who might be able to verify older charts at a library or from old trade magazines for you. I know a number of British editors, but none that I would think could verify 14 year old non-top 40 UK chart rankings.

Oh, by the way, CloudNine made Image:TodayIntro.JPG for the article. WesleyDodds 23:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Here's a good source. It definitely has the "Today" chart-run (#44->#71). CloudNine 19:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Awesome, thanks. I just added the UK chart stuff back in. And thanks for the image, too. --Brandt Luke Zorn 14:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Congrats on the succesful FAC. WesleyDodds 06:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Today (song)

User:WesleyDodds said you were looking to take the article to FAC soon and asked me to take a look. It looks very well-done, and I'm sure it would pass. I did some copyediting and came up with some suggestions for the article:

  • It would be very useful to have a 20-second sample of the song. If you don't have Audacity or some other application that can make Ogg files, let me know and I'll create one.
  • The references in the third paragraph of the lead seem excessive since the albums themselves can be considered references. (This is unless any of the albums are rarities where it would be difficult to locate a copy of the album.)
  • The live version is mentioned in the lead but doesn't appear in the article. If the live version is significantly different from the original, consider starting a paragraph about the live version.
  • The second sentence of "Song history" needs to be reworded somehow. Since there's a comma in the phrase "Billy Corgan had become overweight, depressed to the point of contemplating suicide, and was suffering from writer's block", the serial commas should be serial semicolons. Since there's already a semicolon in the sentence, it'd probably be best to try and split it into two sentences.
  • "The reaction from the executives only served to put more stress on Corgan, and he recorded most of the guitar and bass guitar parts himself, including on the finished version of 'Today'." This sentence is unclear. Are these two clauses related? Did Corgan record the parts himself because he was stressed?
  • The sheet music needs a source. If it's from commercial sheet music, the relevant information would be the publisher and year of publication.
  • If there's any information available on the topic, consider including information about how the video was produced. Facts like where it was filmed, who produced the video, or when it was filmed would help make the section more comprehensive.
  • The chart positions in the Reception section should be reworded. Phrases like "received a peak position" seem awkward since songs (ideally) don't really receive positions; they rank at positions. Consider phrases like "peaked at number X" or "reached number X on the".

ShadowHalo 00:28, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

For my own convenience, I'm going to strike out some of these. --Brandt Luke Zorn 01:43, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I figured it out myself really to be honest. I chose a fair use licence as I guess such transcriptions would be an element of the music and lyrics, which is usually copyrighted to a publishing company. CloudNine 07:57, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Live Forever

I've got to reference some more sources for the article, but do you think you can track down and include any other chart information there might be for "Live Forever"? Most essential is the need for a reliable citation for the UK chart ranking. WesleyDodds 08:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I put a citation for the UK chart listings in for ya. --Brandt Luke Zorn 22:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Book suggestion

One book I forgot to suggest before was Jim DeRogatis' Milk It!: Collected Musings on the Alternative Music Explosion of the 90's (2003). Of foremost interest to you are the article he wrote on the making of In Utero (one of only three interviews Kurt Cobain granted around the album's release) and an interview with Billy Corgan where he explains his change of lyric-writing style on Adore (which I've wanted to put into the Adore article for a while, but couldn't quite figure out how.) WesleyDodds 09:12, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll see if I can check it out. --Brandt Luke Zorn 22:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

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Wow, I must have uploaded that a million years ago. I can't even remember doing it. Oh well. I gave it a fair use rationale, as requested. Sorry about the hassle. --Brandt Luke Zorn 21:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In Utero

Time magazine review from 1993 WesleyDodds 22:14, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Can you add the necessary citations needed, if you can find them, to the Recording section? Anything you can't cite I'll just rewrite using Come As You Are. I think I'm going to completely rewrite the Pre-release section, unless you have any objections. WesleyDodds 08:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Rewrite away, looks like it could use it. As for the uncited quotes, I recognize a few from my reading and it will just be a matter of finding the page numbers. There are definitely a few that I've never seen, but I'll do the best that I can. --Brandt Luke Zorn 02:17, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Smile

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[edit] Nirvana discogrpahy

I see you're attempting to tackle this monster. You might want to talk to Teemu08; he got Wilco discography to Featured List status, and he has access to Billboard charts. WesleyDodds 09:00, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll talk to him if I need help with it; I modeled a lot of the discography so far after Wilco discography. On an unrelated note, can you fill in the missing references for In Utero? --Brandt Luke Zorn 20:18, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm being sidetracked by the Grunge music FAR at the moment, and I'm trying to address the current project FACs. I'll get back to In Utero as soon as possible. WesleyDodds 21:36, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I appreciate it. --Brandt Luke Zorn 17:20, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Loveless

I got the book earlier today in the mail and finished reading it an hour ago. Well worth ordering, I say. That album page will be a future project for sure (and I can most likely count on Ceoil giving a hand). Nevertheless, I've always found Loveless just . . . ok. Honestly, I prefer Ride's Nowhere when it comes to shoegaze opuses. WesleyDodds 10:31, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

The story behind the making of Loveless is oddly similar to the story behind the making of Siamese Dream: rampant perfectionism, one bandmember playing most everything by himself, anxiety about living up to expectations, Alan Moulder, etc. I'd highly recommend Ride. Look up the video for "Vapour Trail" on YouTube; 'twas directed by Kevin Kerslake years before he did videos for Nirvana and the Pumpkins (the "Vapour Trail" video is a clear template for the "Cherub Rock" video). WesleyDodds 10:47, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Useful link for Pumpkins sales figures I just found. WesleyDodds 11:25, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
I think we should go for Loveless for FA; are you in? Ceoil 14:08, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

"I've always found Loveless just . . . ok" - I've already taken him up on this. If I was an admin, I'd block him for that kind of talk. Ceoil 14:20, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Done ;) By the way, great work with the 33 1/3 page. Much appreciated. CloudNine 19:09, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

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[edit] Nirvana Discography

Wow, I didn't notice it went to hell so quickly. The thing that bugs me the most is that a lot of the external links references are now unformated or replaced by less reliable ones. I would encourage you to just revert it to the way it was before your vacation. WesleyDodds 09:28, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Oi, tell me about it... I'm amazed that basically one anonymous user shot it down in the relatively short amount of time I was gone. I probably won't do one big mass-revert at this point though, because I've pretty much salvaged everything that was lost and I'm going to try and improve it a little more than how it was before based on some of Mr. 83.67.100.248's edits. --Brandt Luke Zorn 09:56, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Loveless COTW

Loveless is this week's collaboration; however, I'll be gone until Sunday. I'll be taking my 33 1/3 book along with me to reread, so do what you can until I come back. I'll be mainly working on the recording section (I'm still trying to mentally sort out the timeline, which is why I need to reread the book); try to cover the critical reception and legacy. Ceoil should be available to help come Friday. In other news, I was telling a friend today about my work on Wikipedia, and he mentioned when looking around the site he thought the Bee Thousand article was well-done. WesleyDodds 08:23, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Alright, cool. I'll be working on it whenever possible. --Brandt Luke Zorn 08:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
I have quotes from Billy Corgan and Robert Pollard I'll work in later. WesleyDodds 21:49, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I also found something which may or may not be able to be worked into the article: Kevin Shields's guitar gear while on tour. There probably should be a section on the tour promoting Loveless, and that would help with it. --Brandt Luke Zorn 06:10, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

"Music" section is done for now, and I've put my quotes in the "Legacy" section. Once I finish with the "Recording" section, I think we just need to fix up the lead and we can submit it to GAC, unless you want to skip that. WesleyDodds 06:38, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate all your help and hope school won't hold you back too much. I could definitely use your help on current collaboration Nirvana. I want to focus on crafting "Musical style and influences" and "legacy" sections on one of my user page, so any help in other areas of the article would be much appreciated. Maybe you could cut and paste some of the citations from Nirvana discography into the article? WesleyDodds 07:51, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Kurt Cobain

Right doesn't that make him bisexual? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.59.132.56 (talk) 05:19, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discography and songs

I really hope you renominate Nirvana discography soon. It's looking insanely good.

I'm almost done with the Grunge music FAR/FARC. Once that's done my main focus will be Joy Division (Ceoil told me to hold off a bit on Loveless until he got around to sourcing a book he owns). I was wondering though, since you got "Today" to FA and because we should do more work for the Nirvana taskforce, if you want to work on a Nirvana song article. I think all the major-label Nirvana singles can be FA articles, and we should aim to make all Nirvana song articles GA class as a long-term goal. Personally, I'm leaning towards working on "Heart-Shaped Box" (I have the Anton Corbijn video collection, and was watching the video the other day), but if there's a song that interests you more bring it up. WesleyDodds 09:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, we really need to get the Nirvana taskforce kicked into high gear. I could go for "Heart-Shaped Box". At one point I was going to work on "Love Buzz" but slacked off and it went nowhere. I still think that we need to get In Utero to at least GA. --Brandt Luke Zorn 05:10, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I'll do some fixes on "Heart-Shaped Box" right now. The convenient thing is researching that song also involves research for In Utero. WesleyDodds 06:53, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Why not do a list of Smashing Pumpkins tours instead? WesleyDodds 06:27, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

While there's been a lot written about Nirvana, there's a few Nirvana song articles that aren't that notable and could probably be merged into other articles (I'm thinkin "Raunchola" for one). This would be rather bold; what do you think? WesleyDodds 06:03, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Turned quite a few song pages into redirects; mainly the obivous stuff like really rare songs that no one but hardcore fans would care about. Feel free to mention any other Nirvana songs you think should be redirected. WesleyDodds 07:10, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
My edits were just reverted. I explained to the editor why they were turned into redirects, so hoepfully this will be undone quickly. Seriously, something like The Other Improv really is not notable enough to be an article. WesleyDodds 23:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Make-Up FAC/FLC

I just wanted to let you know that I hid your comments on the Make-Up FAC and the Make-Up discography FLC, since everything has been taken care of and it makes things a little bit easier to read for any other reviewers. That and the pretty colors might draw a few more people to comment. =) So, if you don't want them hidden for whatever reason, please feel free to unhide them. I just wanted to let you know that I did it to make things a bit more manageable and not to discount all of your valid points. Thanks! Drewcifer 01:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Also thanks for you comments on the NIN FAC, I'm still working on addressing them. Drewcifer 01:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Oh no, not at all, go right ahead. Both of those pages, particularly the discography, need quite a few votes in a short amount of time; anything to encourage voting is fine by me. --Brandt Luke Zorn 02:00, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

I see you made a change to the ref on the James Robert Baker article. My question is whether you think the parenthetical definition of beatnik is even necessary. I thought it absurd when I was asked to include it, but felt there was no choice since it was nominated for GA at the time and was told that the term was too obscure, even with the wikilink. A year later, I wouldn't mind if it was removed, as it seems to assume incompetence in the reader. Jeffpw 04:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Honestly, I have no knowledge the article's subject whatsoever. I was just moving the reference past punctuation, which is a general MoS thing. Personally, I don't think that the term "beatnik", especially when the word is linked, is anywhere near obscure enough to have to define in a parenthetical break, but I may not be the one to ask. --Brandt Luke Zorn 04:54, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Reputation is saved!

I'm happy to say The Reputation has been kept as a GA article. Excellent work! Drewcifer 07:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! --Brandt Luke Zorn 03:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Frusciante discography FLC

When you aren't too busy, would you be willing to weigh in on the John Frusciante FLC? You seem to have some experience with featured discographies, and this one could really use some more feedback. I'll be glad to return the favor by commenting on one of your projects that isn't getting much exposure; or in some other way if you need. Thanks a bunch. Grim 04:50, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Awesome, your feedback is most helpful and appreciated. If there's anything in addition to FAC commentary I can be of service with, please be sure to let me know. Grim 06:10, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Done and thanks. Also, in the future, whenever you plan on working on TSP discography, I'm interested. NSR77 TC 22:39, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nirvana Discography

Nirvana Discography has been passed as a featured list. Congratulations, and thanks for your hard work. Cheers, ➪HiDrNick! 16:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pumpkins Discography

Yeah, definitely. I'm currently working on the Chili Peppers' one so I am in that "discography writing" train of though. NSR77 TC 10:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Because it interests me, I think I'll work out the b-sides chart over the weekend. WesleyDodds 23:49, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

There's a couple items I'm not sure how to address. For starters:

  • How should remix b-sides be listed? "1979", "The End Is the Beginning Is the End", and "Perfect" have special remix singles that remix the title tracks.
  • Should we acknowledge that certain b-sides are only on certain formats of a given single? (ie. 7" vinyl, 12" vinyl)
  • The TAFH booklet mentions that vinyl copies of Pisces Iscariot included a free 7" single that had "Not Worth Asking" backed with "Honeyspider II". Where should that be listed? WesleyDodds 03:21, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Some things:

  • "Rhinoceros" and Lull: "Rhinoceros" charted on the Modern Rock charts, not Lull, because the Modern Rock charts are based solely on airplay, not sales. The DJs could've pulled the song from either Gish or Lull. The charts for "Rhinoceros" and Lull are thus two different things.
  • Both the first "I Am One" single and the "Tristessa" single are different recordings than the ones on Gish (for example, the first version of "I Am One" is a tad slower and, uh, not as good). Should we list these as non-album singles? WesleyDodds 23:06, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FL Main page proposal

You either nominated a WP:FLC or closed such a nomination recently. As such, you are the type of editor whose opinion I am soliciting. We now have over 400 featured lists and seem to be promoting in excess of 30 per month of late (41 in August and 42 in September). When Today's featured article (TFA) started (2004-02-22), they only had about 200 featured articles and were barely promoting 20 new ones per month. I think the quality of featured lists is at least as good as the quality of featured articles was when they started appearing on the main page. Thus, I am ready to open debate on a proposal to institute a List of the Day on the main page with nominations starting November 1, 2007, voting starting December 1, 2007 and main page appearances starting January 1, 2008. For brevity, the proposal page does not discuss the details of eventual main page content, but since the work has already been done, you should consider this proposal assuming the eventual content will resemble the current content at the featured content page. Such output would probably start at the bottom of the main page. The proposal page does not debate whether starting with weekly list main page entries would be better than daily entries. However, I suspect persons in favor of weekly lists are really voicing opinions against lists on the main page since neither TFA nor Picture of the day started as weekly endeavors, to the best of my knowledge. See the List of the Day proposal and comment at WP:LOTDP and its talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Feeder discography

Hi!, thanks for your feedback on the FA nomination :). I have now addressed the points if you would like to review the list again :).Marcus Bowen 13:56, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Awards

Please copy this to your user page, if you like!

Image:Music barstar.png The Music Barnstar
For your extensive work with music articles, especially with alt rock articles and WikiProject Alternative music. Your work on the Smashing Pumpkins related articles, in particular, has been exemplary! Keep up the good work.-Werideatdusk33 04:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pavement discography

Sure thing. I sill owe you for the Frusciante discography. I'm glad you said something. I just looked over the article and put in a review. Grim 06:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] LOTD proposal

You have nominated a recent successful WP:FL. There have been two recent proposals to begin a List of the Day feature on the main page, which have both received majorities but have not been approved as overwhelming support sufficient for the main page. WP:LOTDP is a new proposal to try to get the ball rolling based on the original proposal. Voice your thoughts on its talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 21:06, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MBV reunited

New album's almost done, too! WesleyDodds 01:40, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

There'll probably be someone who'll make it, even though the only verifiable information that exists right now is "We're making an album, and it's 75% done, and it's coming out in like a month."
I hate pages about upcoming albums. WesleyDodds 01:52, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
By the way, if we fix up the lead and the first paragraph in the "Reception" section, Loveless could be ready for GAC (yes, I know it's backlogged). WesleyDodds 02:16, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
I'll get on it after I get some dinner right now. Any other albums you want me to included quotes about while I have the issue out? WesleyDodds 03:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Slanted and Enchanted is at #4; all top ten entries got around three paragraphs to a full page. WesleyDodds 03:53, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Not sure how you can use this in the article, so I'll just post it here for you:

94. Slint - Spiderland
A mysterious little record that bubbled up from Louisville, Kentucky (and seminal punk outfit Squirrel Bait), it sounds kinda like mid-'70s King Crimson gone emo: screeching guitar chords and gorgeous note-spinning in odd-metered instrumentals speckled with words both spoken and sung. Guitarist Dave Pajo would later help create Tortoise, whose "post-rock" is encoded here. Recently reunited for a one-shot tour, Slint found a cult in the tens of thousands. Then they broke up again, wisely letting the mystery be. (Hermes, Will. "Slint - Spiderland". Spin. July 2005.) WesleyDodds 10:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Also: Just put up Loveless at GAC. I fixed the "Reception" paragraph (and added the original NME review) and tweaked the lead a bit. See if you can do some further work on the lead. WesleyDodds 11:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed that there's no mention of chart positions. I don't think it charted in the US, but I'm pretty sure it hit the top 20 in the UK. WesleyDodds 11:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
I think it might be in the 33 /13 book. I'll have to check in a bit. WesleyDodds 00:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Didn't find anything about sales in the book. Crap. WesleyDodds 03:36, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Wait: Rolling Stone has something. They don't specify if it's total sales or country-specific, though. WesleyDodds 03:41, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
They give Nevermind as 7,918,000 sold, and Thriller as 26 million, which sound like US numbers. Argghhh -racks brain- I'll leave it up to you to decide what to do about the sales, but I'll try looking for more precise figures. WesleyDodds 04:04, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article assessment - We Got to Do Better

As requested here I've assessed We Got to Do Better. I've included a summary of my thinking here.--Opark 77 13:53, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Belle & Sebastian

Thanks for the advice! I'll see what I can do about creating the section you suggested. As far as the red links go, would you also say that the publishing companies should be de-linked along with the authors? Cheers, faithless (speak) 04:12, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I meant; six of the publishers listed have articles, five don't. I'll go ahead and remove those too, then. faithless (speak) 04:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MBV 4th album

Well there's Mariah Carey's eleventh studio album. - Damn it, lets go for it. Ceoil 23:54, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Quite. I have a mix tape of all the pre isn't anything stuff, which I rarely listen to. I'm so excited by the prospect of Loveless II, that I'm all mixed up. Ceoil 00:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey. Do you think Loveless needs a post script section. Ceoil 12:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nine Inch Nails at FLC (again)

Thanks so much for your comments on the previous FLC for the Nine Inch Nails discography. Unfortunately the FLC failed since I just didn't have enough time to address the issues raised, but I have since had a bit more free time, and have addressed the problems and have resubmitted the article for Featured List status. I would very much appreciate if you could give the article another look and let me know what you think on its new FLC page. Thanks! Drewcifer 05:21, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Featured List of the Day Experiment

There have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all WP:FL's in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at WP:LOTD. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to WP:LOTD and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 17:15, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jimmy Chamberlin GA

Yeah, I think it's pretty comprehensive and well-referenced. It's a bit uneven in spots, but I definitely think it deserves a promotion. And no thanking, you've done a great job moderating SP articles. -Werideatdusk33 04:21, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your opinion, please

Is it just me, or was the review and subsequent fail of Joy Division when it was on hold for about a day or two odd? Please tell me what you think. In any case I'm just going to Peer Review right now and then FAC once I expand some sections and do some little fixes. WesleyDodds 04:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, while Loveless is in the GAC queue currently, what do you think we need before taking it to FAC?
Also, this week's COTW is Siamese Dream. I've tracked down some reviews and will soon begin working on the recording history. WesleyDodds 05:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Not really, unless there's some pressing reason to include them (as in Adore). I've removed mention of outtakes in Nevermind since they don't seem all that notable in regards to the album. WesleyDodds (talk) 02:25, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
I've gone through most of the sources available right now on Siamese Dream. Next I'm going through the DeRogatis book and the Siamese Dream tab book, where Billy Corgan gives all that detailed information about the songs (by the way, I think we could make a "Cherub Rock" FA article, if you want to). When you have the time to work on it during Thanksgiving I think you might also want to try and find more contemporary reviews. After the DeRogatis Chicago Tribune one I'm not sure what else I can find; the Rolling Stone one doesn't have an author or original publication date listed, and the Allmusic one looks like it was written well after the album was released. WesleyDodds (talk) 04:02, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
A bit of a snag: The Siamese Dream tab book no longer can be previewed on Amazon.com, and Google Book Search doesn't provide one. Unfortunately the book is out of print and I lost my copy a few years back. You could buy a copy from Amazon's used section, but the starting price there is 37 dollars. I also don't see it on eBay. WesleyDodds (talk) 23:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I heard about it awhile ago, but I too have been wondering where it would go in the article. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NIN WikiProject

I'd like to invite you to join the newly-formed Nine Inch Nails WikiProject. There's alot of NIN-related articles on Wikipedia that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help me get this project of the ground and a few Nine Inch Nails pages into the front ranks of Wikipedia articles. Thanks! Drewcifer 10:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spiderland

Just thought I'd say well done. Article looks amazing. Daisy-berkowitz (talk) 14:00, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! --Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 17:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see that I wasn't the only person to notice the stellar improvements :) Great work! C. M. Reed (talk) 09:03, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Future projects

My goal is to have Joy Division, Loveless (album), and R.E.M. (band) reach FA status by the end of the year. Once those are done, I hope to get more focused than I have been in recent months. While I always help with the COTW, compared to the people I regularly work with (editors like you, CloudNine, and Ceoil), I haven't been yielding too many GAs/FAs. I definitely plan to work on Britpop next, but is there anything else you might want to work on together? I'm thinking another album article, because those seem to be the easiest to reference and write. There's still In Utero, after all, but there's also Ten, and others that would be worth working on, and quite a few I'm interested in but not sure if you are. Let me know if anything strikes you. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:16, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Working on stuff like Siamese Dream highlights problems I try to avoid; while I'm totally interested in working on the album, we've both found our resources restricted. I want to make sure we have enough information about recording information, sales figures, and the music itself, in addition to plentiful reviews. I've mulled over what I have available and here's some ones I feel sufficient resources are available for and that I am interested enough to work on for a few months (Note: I've left out Beatles and Zeppelin albums, as well as Nevermind, because the sheer amount of material available means I'd spend months reading first before real work would get done. I still want to finish Nevermind, but there's too much to process first, if you know what I mean):
Let me know what you think. WesleyDodds (talk) 10:30, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
In the case of Definitely Maybe, I own the tenth anniversary DVD, which is very helpful. WesleyDodds (talk) 00:50, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Either one would be fine by me, really. Just with the DVD there's a lot more to work with on Definitely Maybe. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:59, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Do you think Loveless is ready for FAC? WesleyDodds 10:43, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

The point of the quotes in the newsletter is to include something completely ridiculous in the spirit of fun (and hopefully to get people to pay attention). Thus I try to top myself every month. I was working on the newsletter a day before it was sent out and I was at a loss as to what it should be this month. Then I went into my Spin: 20 Years of Alternative Music book and found this e-mail interview with Thom Yorke, which was a godsend. By the way, congratulations on making the backlog template at GAC with Slay Tracks. Maybe that'll result in some unsuspecting editor discovering Pavement. WesleyDodds 02:53, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I was leaning towards "Soon" myself. I would suggest "Touched" since it's discussed a bit in the article, but a fair use sample would be, what, six seconds? WesleyDodds 03:43, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Loveless just passed GAC and Slay Tracks is being reviewed. I'm still trying to see if there's more that can be added to the article. Given when you can add another soundclip, I think we can take it to FAC within a week. WesleyDodds (talk) 06:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

This would be good for the legacy section. Can you work it in? WesleyDodds (talk) 11:11, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

I did some final edits to Loveless; at this point the only thing I'm not too keen on is the caption for "Soon", but we can work on that later. Do you think we should take it to FAC now (and how would a thre-way nom work)? WesleyDodds (talk) 02:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Any quotes you were thinking in particular? WesleyDodds (talk) 05:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I'll work in the quote; I was hoping to add something on the dance influence anyways (the McGonial book devotes a chapter to it, but there's little substantial information in it). I've been reviewing Spiderland since last night; I'll comment shortly. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
You said the extended version of the quote is from Turn On Your Mind, right? What's the page number? WesleyDodds (talk) 13:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Congrats! Loveless has just been promoted to FA. WesleyDodds (talk) 22:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to try and finish up with R.E.M. and get it up at FAC tonight. Want to start work on another project now? WesleyDodds (talk) 07:24, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Just let me know what you want to work on and I'll gather up material. WesleyDodds (talk) 13:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Siamese Dream

I'd be glad to help in the near future. It's currently something I can't put down. What major sources do you have acess to or that you plan to use? NSR77 TC 01:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

At the end of Tales of a Scorched Earth there is a section with all of the magazines that did significant spreads on the Pumpkins. I'll check it out and see which ones relate most to Siamese Dream. NSR77 TC 11:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Nah, it is fine to put back in. I'm actually just on the run and checking Wikipedia quickly but I'll pass the article when I'm not so busy. NSR77 TC 11:42, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Death of Kurt Cobain

I think we should both pitch in on this article, if a lot of the suicide dispute hub-bub is going to be moved there. The msot important thing the article needs is to actually describe Cobain's death, the discovery of his body, and the reactions to it before going into the whole debate. WesleyDodds 10:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

That's all right. I was only going to work on it piecemeal until I had more time myself. WesleyDodds (talk) 06:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Slay Tracks (1933-1969)

GA nomination on hold, see Slay Tracks (1933-1969) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs). Dihydrogen Monoxide ♫ 23:05, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Query

Do you have digital cable? Right now I'm watching an episode of Later with Jools Holland on OnDemand from 1998 featuring The Smashing Pumpkins. They played "Ava Adore", "Once Upon a Time", and "Daphne Descends". WesleyDodds (talk) 10:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

It definitely helps to go back and work on older articles once we learn more about editing, which is what I'e done with Alternative rock and Batman. By the way, if you want, next month we can work on both Definitely Maybe and (What's the Story) Morning Glory?, since both would involve most of the same sources I have. WesleyDodds (talk) 23:40, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zero single in Pumpkins discography

Hey my man. Is there a reason Zero is omitted from the "singles" section in the discography?—Well, other than oversight. I was going to just go ahead and add it, but I don't really have time right now, so I figured I'd run it by you first to make sure. Seems like a rather large oversight if that's the case. I'm having a discussion on the list's talk page about the band's "odd" singles. I say we should just go ahead and list everything—at least for the sake of comprehensiveness. Any input would be great. Grim (talk) 14:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deftones

You seem to be really on your game when it comes to music articles, discographies and the like. With that in mind, would you have a look at the Deftones discography I've been working feverishly on for the past few days for me? I'd eventually like to shoot for FL, so advice from a sage hand would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Seegoon (talk) 07:04, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pavement stuff

Hey, I wanted to leave you a note here and let you know that I really do appreciate all the work you're doing on the Pavement discography. I don't want to come off sounding like I'm knocking any of your work just because of the discussion about formatting - your work is really excellent and I'm looking forward to seeing what you have planned. I just wasn't sure if you originally were just going to leave the track list unformatted without the references back to the original EPs and sources. Anyway, go ahead and do whatever you need to do to the track list and I won't revert anything anymore. Torc2 (talk) 00:54, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! And by no means did it come off as though you knocking me. I'm glad we could settle this agreeably. --Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 00:59, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Carpenters

Thanks for your criticism on the page. Do you have anything else to add? Do you really believe it's not FA quality? Do you think it has potential? Sorry for all the questions. See you tomorrow! Again, thanks! — Cuyler91093 - Contributions - 11:02, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alice in Chains

I fixed everything you put on the nom page, would you mind taking another look? By the way may I reccomend archiving this page, if you need help I will help you or do it for you.
Thank you,
Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 04:21, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

All Y Done. Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 23:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Everything is done. Thank very much for reviewing by the way. The coment you made of the number inconsistancy I did not fix though, on my previous featured article for Godsmack we reached the concensus that numbers up to ten should be written and anything over can be in # form. RIAA certifications such as 2x platinum are an exception for the rule however. I would really appreciate if you would put music samples in the article. If you do please do this:
  • "Man in the Box" in the "Facelift and Sap" section
  • "Would?" in the "Dirt and Jar of Flies" section
  • "Again" in the "Alice in Chains and decline" section
  • "Nutshell" in the "Alice in Chains and decline" section in the Unplugged paragraph
Also if you wouldn't mind (you don't have to) maby put samples in two other articles for me? Keep in mind you don't have to. And I myself cannot get a picture of Staley, but I am trying to see if someone else will. If you want I can give you the URL for the image, and you could get it (again you don't have to). And again thank you very much for this. Do you listen to Alice in Chains? Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 03:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Is there a limit to songs in an article? In Godsmack I would like "Whatever" in the "Godsmack" section.
In Chevelle (an article I am current ly working on, maby a review? Wikipedia:Peer review/Chevelle) I'd like "Point No. 1 (song)|Point #1]]" in the "Point #1" section
And again thank you very much. Do You isten to Godsmack and Chevelle? AiC is one of my all time favorites. Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 04:17, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I can't stress how much of a help you are. On your userpage I saw the articles you contribute to, which ones are you the main author for? My first and currently only FA is Godsmack, I must have gotten off pretty easy on that one, AiC is much more of a challenge than Godsmack, but I have to keep in mind they have twice the history. Would Chevelle be too short for FA status? They have a short history, but if possible I would like to skip GA and go to FA. If AiC becomes featured I will be the only person on English Wikipedia with two metal band FAs. Sorry for ranting :) Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 04:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
You rule. Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 06:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes they are, thank you very much. Are you reviewing Chevelle tomorrow of tonight still? Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 06:49, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

This isn't causing you to spend money is it? Will that be tommorow, I'm just curious, no rush. Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 06:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
All taken care of, mind taking another look? Isn't Limewire illegal? On Godsmack you can get rid of the songs "Running Blind" and "Good Times Bad Times". Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 19:58, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Y Done Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 23:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
WOO! All Y Done. Do you Support now? Thank you for all of the help, with all three articles. I'm hoping to get a couple more reviews for Chevelle, I want to skip GA and go right to FA. Do you want this page archived? Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 21:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Y Done Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 03:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New project

I say let's work on both Definitely Maybe and In Utero. That way we won't get too bored (sometimes I get worn out on an article if I work too intensely). Let me know what areas you want to concentrate on; for one, you seem to have a better hang out citing chart positions than I do. I think I can devote myself primarily to the recording process of both records. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:42, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Here's a Rolling Stone article I found about the In Utero release controversy: [1]. WesleyDodds (talk) 01:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Dude, we live in the same state. WesleyDodds (talk) 01:46, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Happy New Year! WesleyDodds (talk) 08:08, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm busy watching an R.E.M. DVD right now, and I'll be up for a few more hours. What do you want me to work on on In Utero or Definitely Maybe right now? WesleyDodds (talk) 08:46, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
It's up to you. The RHCP FA articles have them, for one. But definitely get rid of the redundant Singles section, with the release dates and all that. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Because it's awesome: [2]. WesleyDodds (talk) 03:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

When I saw them play at The Fillmore in July that's exactly how it was performed, right down to the keyboard noodling at the beginning. The songs that worked best at that show were the guitar-heavy 90s singles. "Today" and "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" were great. WesleyDodds (talk) 05:40, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Billy didn't sing weird like he does in that video, though. WesleyDodds (talk) 05:42, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Slipknot Project

Hello there, I notice that you have frequently editted articles relating Slipknot. Recently WikiProject Slipknot was started and I was wondering if you would be interested in join the project to improve the coverage of articles related to Slipknot. Rezter TALK 19:36, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to the Flaming Lips

One of us...one of us... Hey, just checking, but have you heard Mercury Rev's first few albums? If you like Pavement and the Lips, they're definitely someone you should hear. Welcome! Hopefully we can slap some of these articles into better shape. Torc2 (talk) 13:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ian Svenonius

Hey, so thanks for your help with the Svenonius situation. I realize it's a tricky situation, but I don't want to be a party of an invasion of privacy, perceived or not, which is why I immediately took down the information. If the subject of the article is uncomfortable, than I am uncomfortable. I hope you can understand where I'm coming from with this. Bringing up the situation at WP:COIN would just complicate matters, and it would probably result in a unsatisfactory result as far as Mr. Svenonius is concerned, which is why I'd liked to avoid it if possible. Drewcifer (talk) 07:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Peer review/Opeth

Hello, If you have time, would you mind reviewing Opeth at Wikipedia:Peer review/Opeth. Give me all the crap you see, I'll get it taken care of before FAC. Thank you, —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 19:40, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Groovy —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 20:15, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the review. I took care of everything and left notes. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 00:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind getting some samples for Opeth? I don't know what to do with start and stop times though.
If so here is a list of songs, I will add captions:
  • "The Night and the Silent Water" in Orchid, Morningrise, and My Arms, Your Hearse (1994–1998)
  • "Bleak" in Still Life and Blackwater Park (1999–2001)
  • "Deliverance" in Deliverance and Damnation (2002–2004), in the para of the release of Deliverance.
  • "Windowpane" in Deliverance and Damnation (2002–2004), in the para of the release of Damnation
It would be appreciated if you would, but feel free not to. Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 22:06, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Cool, thanks. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 04:58, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Alice in Chains

Hello, would you mind re-commenting on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Alice in Chains? The FAC discussion was not closed, but it was re-started by the FA director. Fell free not to, that would be fine by me. Thank you, —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 22:02, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Zeitgeist]]

The mention of "F# Stomp" (or FA Stomp) should probably go, but "Signal to Noise" might be worth mentioning. -Werideatdusk33 (talk) 05:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Records

If you like Different Class, you will mostly likely also dig His 'n Hers, the album before it. Both records are very much in the same vein. Despite the importance of Zen Arcade, I feel New Day Rising is a much better album, and is possibly one of the top ten greatest alt-rock albums ever. But that's me . . . WesleyDodds (talk) 05:06, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to think Ceoil and I did a public service with the Be Here Now article. I think I counted nine references to cocaine in that article. WesleyDodds (talk) 05:23, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I've done a bit of work on Definitely Maybe already. I guess it's up to you which on to tackle. WesleyDodds (talk) 05:50, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
We should revamp the prelease controversy section first. The critical reception section should be easy, since reviews from most major publications (Rolling Stone, New York Times, Entertainment Weekly) are available online. WesleyDodds (talk) 06:24, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm up for taking apart and rewriting the Prerelease section in In Utero right now if you are able to work on it as well. WesleyDodds (talk) 05:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm off to bed now. I'll see what else I can do this week. NSR77 said he'd be interested in working on the critical reception. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] South Park ref formatting change

Why'd you rip out the official Book template and replace it with plain text? - Denimadept (talk) 15:29, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nevermind template

This might interest you. On a related note I completed the "Pre-release" controversy section in In Utero. WesleyDodds (talk) 00:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Again - Alice in Chains.ogg)

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[edit] Miscellanea

I was wondering for a while why the review for Mellon Collie wasn't on the Rolling Stone website. Then last night I realized Jim DeRogatis' review for the album in his book was from his tenure at Rolling Stone, and given what he said about that period in the "Hootiegate" chapter its absence makes sense now. That article's almost GA ready and I've been doing more work on In Utero lately. Let me know when you're less busy (it seems that a number of project members are likewise occupied elsewhere this month). WesleyDodds (talk) 12:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Music Sample Help?

Hi, my name is Dark Executioner, and I was referred to you by Burningclean for help with music samples. I have no clue on how to put them onto Wikipedia at all. You see, I have been working hard to help get Six Feet Under (a seminal death-metal band) up to GA. I have put tons of references, cleaned the article up, and even broke their history down into descriptive subsections.

Two songs I would love to have represent the band here on Wikipedia are "Doomsday" and "Victim of the Paranoid." If you are able to put them onto the page for me, I will be very grateful. Thanks, Dark Executioner (talk) 23:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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