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[edit] Barnstar

I gladly award Brakn this history Barnstar for his dilligent work on the Freddie Lennon article. (If there was a "Destroyer of Urban Legends" Barnstar he'd get that as well). Truly great work, and a well-deserved Barnstar. --andreasegde 13:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I gladly award Brakn this history Barnstar for his dilligent work on the Freddie Lennon article. (If there was a "Destroyer of Urban Legends" Barnstar he'd get that as well). Truly great work, and a well-deserved Barnstar. --andreasegde 13:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

many thanks! Brakn (talk) 10:09, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Isaac Epstein

Many thanks for the Isaac info. So Dinah was a Hyman? Is that a coincidence or would that be the same family (Malka Hyman) that Harry later married into - possibly a cousin? I’ve also retrieved this from the internet: "Angela Gardner née Canter, daughter of Stella Canter née Epstein, aunt of Brian Epstein and daughter of the Isaac Epstein". Could this possibly be the daughter, Leah? More questions, always more questions!--Patthedog (talk) 20:59, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Harry Epstein married Minnie/Queenie Hyman in 1933 in Ecclesall Bierlow which spans the boundaries of the counties of Derbyshire and West Riding of Yorkshire. I would think that the families must've known each other somehow - it's a fair way to Liverpool.

Minnie was born in Sheffield on the 2nd of December 1914 to parents Louis Hyman and Annie Rachel Kamise/Kimise who had married in Sheffield in 1903.

Without actually getting the certs this is the best I can come up with. This family tree would take a good bit of time to sort out! Brakn (talk) 09:45, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

So, it’s possible that there may have been some kind of “introduction” in the first place between Isaac and Dinah, and again, between Harry and Malka, within the same two families? Could that mean that Harry was possibly then related to Malka? (perfectly legal - I believe cousins can marry). BTW, do you have any early addresses relating to Isaac & Dinah apart from Walton Road? Cheers & thanks & well done - I don’t know how you make sense of it all!--Patthedog (talk) 10:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Dinah lived at 51 Fernie St, Cheetham, Manchester in 1881 and then 3 Stanley Street, (Prestwich?) Manchester in 1891. Brakn (talk) 11:01, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I’ll just assume you have no other addresses for Isaac. --Patthedog (talk) 11:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

You two hounds are hot on the scent of the trail... Great stuff.--andreasegde (talk) 21:45, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Brakn, I now have a copy of Issac & Dinah’s marriage certificate. It confirms that he was a Draper, that she was an assistant Draper. They both resided at 79, Stanley Street, Cheetham (which, I think is an area in Manchester? See http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=384362&Y=399731&A=Y&Z=1) at the time (24th Jan 1900). Any use? --Patthedog (talk) 12:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Just thinking on from this, do you think the whole thing was pre-planned, that Isaac could have travelled directly to the Hyman’s from Russia and then to Liverpool? --Patthedog (talk) 12:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Does it give parents and witnesses? Brakn (talk) 13:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Doesn’t state his, but Dinah’s Father was Joseph. The witnesses were Leo Shaffer and Ephraim Brown (I think - the print is poor). --Patthedog (talk) 14:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)