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[edit] Welcome

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Hope you like it here, and stick around.

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Meelar (talk) 23:30, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image tagging

Greetings! I'm glad you're willing to help with the project. Thanks!

If you're reasonably certain that the uploader of an image owns the copyright (e.g. he/she took the photo or drew the picture), then you can safely tag it as ((gfdl)).

Thank again, – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 16:01, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)

I do not think that Template:PD-user was appropriate for Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg. I think Template:fairuse may be more appropriate. Hyacinth 17:09, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I do not know much about image tags so I can't help you. I knew I had GFDLed my images by uploading them, however, another image of mine was tagged by a third user with Template:fairuse and that seemed appropriate. Thanks! Hyacinth 19:21, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Fair use images are copyrighted, but by someone other than their user (in this case the wikipedia uploader who contributed them and those who continue to use it). I'm not sure if the image itself need be copyrighted to use a fairuse. If the content is copyrighted, such as a Beatles song? Hyacinth 19:33, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Government info

Isn't government information in the public domain? If so, the photo and information about the MDPLS is not violating any copy-right laws.--Joel M. 17:52, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attantion. Honestly, I did not know this. I will do my part in removing these violations. --Joel M. 02:08, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC) Source of reply

[edit] David Ritch

Bratsche,

I'm at a loss here. I don't understand how this could be considered vanity. Were I not his son, I honestly don't believe we'd be having this discussion. Still, I want the article to stay. It is just tough to explain the local context and thus the notability without seeming to be inflating the whole thing. Also, this article has been here since October, eh? Only a few days ago did a guy I've been arguing with for months decide to put it up for deletion, probably because he knew he'd have his way. Please help.

Travisritch 06:58, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] US Government copyright

Anything produced by the federal government is in the public domain, but this isn't true for states and cities. Dade County, for instance, copyrights its images and publications. Two states, California and Utah, release their material into the public domain. Hope this helps. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 15:35, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] David Ritch continued...

Bratsche,

Thank you for your advice. I have created a user page; I didn't know 'red-linking' had a stigma.

If this guides you in your vote, have a look at this: Profiles of CMG and OBE receipients, July 2003, Cayman Islands

Might give you some insight into the kind of people who receive honours in Cayman. If you would be willing, I'd be happy to re-do the page so that it doesn't read like vanity. If you look at the pages of other Cayman dignitaries, i.e. McKeeva Bush, the Leader of Government Business, and Bruce Dinwiddy, the Governor, you'll see they are done either in a paragraph or CV style. I combined both methods to create my father's article.

Travisritch 03:39, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] you sent me a message

These links appear to be spam. According to wikipedia guidelines, wikipedia is not a repository for external links. Also, many contain very graphic content and no warnings appear to let users know. WE MUST FIGHT THESE SPAMMERS AND KEEP THE WIKI CLEAN!!

Please read the guidelines: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links Specialfriedrice 06:14, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Got your reply :-) Yes, I have a feeling I will be making edits for a while. I am going to look through a variety of sections. I will take another look at some of those links again, but I am sure that they were very commercial and spammy. I will give them another look tho! Thanks for the welcome!!! Specialfriedrice 06:14, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

No, the archive came at just the right time. Thanks! Jdavidb 04:35, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pope infobox

Bratsche, thanks for the discussion and for making the right decision. I'm really pleased to have worked with an editor who is willing to listen to others and willing to change their mind when they feel they have been mistaken. That's absolutely the wikispirit and I salute you for it.Grace Note 03:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Bratsche, thanks for alerting me. I agree that the change was a bit bold. It should be properly discussed on the talkpage. I've reverted for now. Let's allow Edg2s to give reasons and try to convince interested editors to go with his change. Grace Note 03:55, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

(copied from my talk page)The new comments on the talk page are pretty clear. If there's a standard about these infoboxes, I guess there's not much we can do about the simplification/uglification about the infobox. Do you have any suggestions? Bratschetalk random 21:48, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I do. Nothing is that fixed. The stylesheet is perfectly editable. It had a major change at one point. I've asked edg2s to give instructions for what he thinks is the most acceptable method to do so. I'm all for changing the infobox if there is support for it. Most people won't care, although they probably won't let that stop them from expressing an opinion. If Gerald meets serious obstruction though, it might be better to work within the bounds of what doesn't cause conflict. Grace Note 22:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I have to add, actually, that I agree that Gerald is working towards an improvement (I think a mix of the two styles would be a lot prettier. Grace Note 22:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Congrats on voting on Template talk:Infobox pope. I'd been about to contact you. Great minds think alike, eh! FearÉIREANN 22:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

FYI - I really liked the new Pope Infobox so I have proposed that it be used for all religious leades on Infobox policy. There have been no objections so far (since Friday). If that continues I plan on helping to update the articles for the new Infobox. If you have comments, concerns please discuss there Trödel|talk 17:37, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalize n' Revert Follies

I'm getting off of a BJAODN high. Sorry. I saw "John Paul Jones" on the disambig page, and besides, if I didn't revert, then it wouldn't be undoing my sin, so.... I reverted. — Rickyrab | Talk 03:56, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Okeydokes. :) — Rickyrab | Talk 19:09, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Legal threats

  • Yes, but is anyone supposed to edit my userpage anyway? I'm sure that's reserved for the talk page, or pages that the user has specifically mentioned applicable for public editing. Pufferfish101 03:29, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Viola

Meep! You play the viola! I love the sound of the viola! --Gerald Farinas 04:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User Talk Banner Template

Well, thanx. :) — Rickyrab | Talk 01:54, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WikiMedal

For helping clean up the talk section of the Pope Benedict XVI article, here is the Wikimedal for Janitoral Services. Zscout370 18:02, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gerald's infobox

I have voted for Gerald's box. My reasoning for allowing it to stand is as follows:

  1. There are not that many infoboxes in use for leaders.
  2. What there are are not particularly standard. As I noted discussing it with Earl Andrew, there are different standards in use for leaders regarding names, and Korean leaders have a different box altogether.
  3. Gerald's design is an improvement. There's no reason that a few editors should expect to impose their aesthetic on the broader community.
  4. Instead of trying to hold back innovation and fresh approaches, we should be spending our time implementing infoboxes: putting them on pages that don't have them so that the consistency that ed2gs desires (and I support him in the desire) is more broadly attained).

Should Gerald have gone through the standard channel and made a broader suggestion? Probably. Does reverting his template and shouting at him help him do that? No. What reason did they give for preferring their box? None. Just that it's how it is. Inertia doesn't do it for me. What reason did they give for supporting their aesthetic? None. They just claimed it was better.

Finally, Gerald has been bold. That's a good thing. Okay, maybe too bold for some and I understand their feeling that. But why not take a constructive approach and see what can come out of it?Grace Note 23:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Toccolours is a class in the wikipedia stylesheet. It has been designed to match the styling of the rest of the monobook skin (all the sidemenus etc.). Having consistent styling is a Good Thing. Before the image thumb markup we had to make our own image boxes, which where varied to say the least, now all the image boxes fit in perfectly with the rest of the page. If we assign one class to all the infoboxes, we can change the appearance of every infobox on the site using one stylesheet. I am trying to stifle anyone's creativity, but hard-coding styles intro each infobox is the wrong way of putting forward your design proposals. ed g2s • talk 01:22, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hey, I wasn't intending to be rude but ironic. Concepts of irony differ between concepts of ironic (most users of British English and Hiberno-English claim that Americans don't do irony - which was why some modern US comedy shows have shocked Europeans by showing that some members do indeed do irony.) Hiberno-English, which I speak and write, is heavily ironic and tongue-in-cheek. That comment was intended in that way. I understand Ed's desire for uniformity and indeed share it. I have been creating formats and styles since I came here. My only point is that when someone finds a better way of doing things we shouldn't adopt a mantra of 'Against the rules. Against the rules' but be willing to say 'that's a better way. Lets see how we can turn it from a once-off into something with a wider usage'. Maybe we should allow a number of variations on the master template, and so allow users to opt for one. Or create a specific template for religious leaders (say Gerald's one), and allow variations for other categories. I'm sorry if my sarcasm was mis-interpreted. It is just a feature of hiberno-english, what is sometimes called (tongue-in-cheek) Irish bitchiness. FearÉIREANN 21:42, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

FYI - I really liked the new Pope Infobox so I have proposed that it be used for all religious leades on Infobox policy. There have been no objections so far (since Friday). If that continues I plan on helping to update the articles for the new Infobox. If you have comments, concerns please discuss there Trödel|talk 17:37, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving

Hey, I think this is a better idea: we should archive the different issues that were discussed into sections of their own (like what I did with the vandalism and another user did on the style. That would be helpful. You can use those two sections to see how I wish for them to be arranged. Thanks again. Zscout370 12:58, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I would also condense the talk pages too, so we only have five or six. That will clean up some of the links. There are some who hate the over archiving (see talk area). Zscout370 (talk) 16:38, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Yon Sig

Using User:Bratsche/sig is bad. See [[WP:~~~~#Transclusion.2Ftemplate|the page on signing your posts on talk pages]] to see why. Thanks, Alphax τεχ 17:29, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikitext is small compared to server load. You can search for instances of your signature and replace them where possible - try not to when people's talk pages are involved, unless it's an archive. Alphax τεχ 05:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Music

Thank you for taking an interest and leaving a note on my talk page! ^_^ I'm a classical pianist (with a Boston baby grand), and as of now, these are my favorite musicians:

  1. Frédéric Chopin
  2. Ludwig van Beethoven
  3. Johann Sebastian Bach
  4. Franz Liszt
  5. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
  6. Moritz Moszkowski
  7. Dmitri Shostakovich
  8. Clara Schumann
  9. Li Yundi
  10. Lang Lang

Hope to see you around! Sango123 19:17, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Minor Edits?

Thanks for the comment (wow that was fast) uhh.. I don't see the 'minor edit' checkbox anywhere. Is it because I use ie5.5?

[edit] Viola jokes

I noticed the note about viola jokes on your User page. I hope you enjoy these! ^_^

  • How do you keep your violin from getting stolen?
Put it in a viola case.
  • What's the difference between a viola and a trampoline?
You take your shoes off to jump on a trampoline.
  • What's the difference between a viola and an onion?
No one cries when you cut up a viola.
  • What's the definition of a minor second?
Two violists playing in unison.
  • What's the definiton of "perfect pitch?"
Throwing a viola into a dumpster without hitting the rim.
  • Why do violists stand for long periods outside people's houses?
They can't find the key and they don't know when to come in.
  • How can you tell when a violist is playing out of tune?
The bow is moving.
  • How was the canon invented?
Two violists were trying to play the same passage together.
  • Why is a viola solo like a bomb?
By the time you hear it, it's too late to do anything about it.
  • What is the range of a viola?
As far as you can kick it.

Source: http://www.mit.edu/~jcb/jokes/viola.html

You can find jokes about many more instruments here: http://www.mit.edu/~jcb/jokes/

Sango123 16:35, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright violation

The copyright violation was noted after the edits of 194.16.87.177. I understand your point now. I just did not know about the policy. Hope you agree after verification and remove the copyright violation template replacing it with the temp page content. Cheers from Svest 04:33, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

Great, thanx. Yeah the stub template looks funny! ;-) Svest 05:02, May 2, 2005 (UTC) Wiki me up

[edit] Pope's funeral

Hi, I left this on the FAC page, but I wanted to make sure you saw it. The White House has released a photo essay for the funeral taken by White House photographer Eric Draper, the copyright status of these pictures isn't immediately obvious since photgraphs taken by federal employees aren't necessarily in the PD, however you could email him and ask. Good luck getting some free pics--nixie 03:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reagan Youth

Thanks for the compliment. Glad you liked it. To be honest, I didn't initially intend to revamp it so thoroughly; I was poking around to see if I could find enough info to determine my own vote and I found a couple of things that I figured should be added to the article and then I couldn't figure out how to add them without doing a little rewriting and then one thing just kind of led to another. . . . . .  :-) Soundguy99 17:03, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] First and only choice

Re your vote on styles. I understand and agree. But only casting one vote is effectively a vote against Alternative 1 because it means that less opposition is recorded against its nearest rival. Ireland uses an electoral system called Proportional Representation using a Single Transferable Vote. It works on the same principle as the one being used (only less complicated! I never thought I would find a system more complicated than PR.STV!) What you do is give your bottom preference to the people you want to defeat, and spread your vote in a way that boosts the rivals of the alternative you do not want. So if for example, you find Alternative 3 the one you least like, give it your bottom vote so that opposition to it is recorded. And spread the other votes to ensure the weakest get votes ahead of it. If for example in Ireland I want to ensure candidate 'x' of Fianna Fáil is elected, and ensure candidate 'y' of Sinn Féin is defeated, and there are 15 candidates, I give my number 1 to 'x', my number '15' to 'y' and spread my other votes to ensure that all other candidates beat 'y'.

Sinn Féin and Fianna Fáil voters famously used to practice a 'first and only choice' vote by just voting for their own preferred candidate and then stopping. They eventually realised that they were wasting their vote because they weren't using it to block those they were most opposed to, or to build up the rivals to the candidate they were opposed to. To stop Alternative 3 winning, if that is what you want, give it your fifth choice and give your second, third and fourth choices to the weakest options. (Just be careful though not to copy everyone else doing it. If everyone gives the same other alternatives the same order of votes they may win. So if option 4 gets a lot of 2s, give it a 4. Doing a full vote right down the line will have the effect of strengthening Alternative 1 vis-a-vis 3 or whatever. Just voting for 1 and stopping actually weakens it against its rivals if everyone else votes down the line, because while their opposition to different alternatives is recorded, by stopping at 1 your's isn't. Slán FearÉIREANN\(talk) 00:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

The great thing about the PR.STV system is that it allows you to have a 'live' vote all the way through the system. It also means that the system is (relatively) proportional, so you don't get farces like in the UK right now where someone can win a majority with only 36% of the vote. That barely qualifies for word democratic. PR.STV operates on the idea that you are given, say 15 candidates and a chance to give one of them your vote - if however your choice either is elected without needing your vote, or is eliminated, you are in effect asked 'so which one of the 14 do you prefer?'. And again if they are unavailable, you are asked for your third choice, etc. It sounds complicated but when you are used to it it is very easy. You just rank your candidates in order of preference: 1, 2, 3, 4, etc making sure the one you least want either doesn't get a vote or gets your very last one, 15 on a 15 person ballot paper. That way you can have the fun both of electing your favourite and shafting the SOB you want to block. FearÉIREANN\(talk) 00:14, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I'd appreciate any defence. It is weird being accused of "vote corralling" on a page about voting for pointing out to people that they had not fully voted. I think logic is to that page what Picasso's paintings of women are to real women! Lol FearÉIREANN\(talk) 17:23, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

In response to your defense of Jtdirl's behavior, I have posted a reply on the survey discussion page. Whig 22:39, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Re-reply posted. Summary: As you said, "convincing others to vote dishonestly is wrong." That is what Jtdirl attempted to do, and his text is posted right here on your own talk page: "Just be careful though not to copy everyone else doing it. If everyone gives the same other alternatives the same order of votes they may win. So if option 4 gets a lot of 2s, give it a 4." Whig 23:13, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] More jokes

As a viola doubler myself, I have a few jokes... some of these are violinist jokes too. :-)

Q.So why are violas so much bigger than violins?
A.They're not, really. Violins just look smaller because violinists' heads are bigger.

Q: There's a bass player, a good viola player, a second violinist, and a first violinist out in a field, when all of a sudden, a $100 bill appears on the ground a little way in front of them. Who gets it?
A: The second violinist. The good violist doesn't exist, the bass player hasn't caught up yet, and no first violinist is going anywhere for only $100.

Q. What's the difference between Greek and alto clef?
A. Some conductors can read Greek!

I've been meaning to say hello anyhow, So, hello, and enjoy! Mindspillage (spill yours?) 04:58, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Have you seen Whig's latest?

There is no current consensus on a new convention, which is the purpose of the ratification vote. The prior policy of prefixing style is overturned, and it is presently up to the editors of each page how style should be addressed.

In other words, if one calls a vote one automatically deletes a past convention instantly. And you have to win the vote to reinstate it. That is not how votes are done. One replaces a convention with another, not wiping one convention out and leaving nothing to replace it. That is a recipe for even more chaos than was caused by that crazy voting system!!! FearÉIREANN\(talk) 05:37, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Another gratuitous viola joke

Hello fellow string player! Just thought I'd drop by and say hi. (I'm only a part-time violist; usually a violinist.)

How do you get a violist to play a perfect spiccato? Write a whole note, and put over it the word "solo." Antandrus (talk) 22:51, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi there. Here's yet another on the same lines (you did ask for them…)
Did you hear about the violist who boasted that she could play fast hemidemisemiquavers (that's what I call sixty-fourth notes)? Her friends doubted her, so - just to show them - she played one. --RobertG ♬ talk 11:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] see page

Please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters. FearÉIREANN\(talk) 19:54, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Five pillars

That cookie was tasty, thank you. I'm not sure the joke deserved a whole one - perhaps just a sixty-fourth of one would have been more appropriate ;-) I thought I'd drop by and say that I couldn't agree with you more about the five pillars. --RobertG ♬ talk 10:10, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks Bratsche

Thanks for your support on my Adminship request. -Seabhcan

[edit] My RFA

Bratsche, Thanks for your vote of support on my recent RFA, it was much appreciated! Happy editing! Fawcett5 19:15, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Opinion

Your opinions are earnestly sought on for deletion:Crowns. To put it simply, there were various lists on crowns and state symbols buried on files, hardly touched, and full of unwritten articles. I created a series of I'd say thirty articles on crowns, types of crowns, crown jewels etc, at considerable time and effort. I created a provisional template to link the articles together, which I planned, once I had all the information in place, to separate into a series of templates as there was too much information for one large one.

SimonP, who has been waging war on templates for ages (usually as a minority of one, through he usually forces his opinion on pages - such as his deletions of the Template:Commonwealth Realms from articles on Commonwealth Realms - by wearing people down on the issue) nominated the template for deletion. While some users have praised the template for creating a workable themed group with a visual unity via the template, a couple of people are determined to delete the template and use their beloved, hideously ugly, lists, the same lists that had proved to be a dead end for all these articles before.

Given your own commitment to proper professional design, not amateurish layouts, on Wikipedia, I would welcome your contribution. The antics of SimonP makes me wonder why bother doing any serious work here, when all one get is attempts by a small number of people to replace professionally laid out information by visually unattractive, frequently complicated and because of the ease of edits, perrennially inaccurate long lists. I would very much like to hear your views on the matter on the TfD page linked above. FearÉIREANN\(talk) 21:18, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User:Humanbot update 08 June 2005

Version two-two released today includes in that green box a nice count of how many articles are left. This more or less co-incides with the event of hitting only 1000 articles remaining. Also, I have re-arranged the User:Humanbot page to make it easier to get to the right stuff. Progress charts, wikicookies, wikilove and a more thorough spelling check is promised when this is completed. (and also when the exam pressure eases off a little on me) r3m0t talk 17:41, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC) Note: If you think this message was too trivial for a mailing, tell me and I'll stick to more important announcements on the list.

[edit] Call to Action

Whereas, much good discussion and work has previously occured on the Barnstar and award proposal page,

Whereas, the level of discussion and progress on the abovementioned page has dropped to a record level of none; no constructive commments have been made on existing awards since May 17, 2005,

Whereas, many "Vote or Die!" have been left open, namely two, as a result of this lack of discussion,

Whereas, nine proposals lie untouched by Wikipedian hands,

Whereas, you have previously commented and helped on the abovementioned page,

Therefore, I, who have absolutely no command in ordering this whatsoever, instruct you, Bratsche/Archive01, to return to the barnstar commitment and further the creation of Wikipedian awards; vote liberally and spread your constructive comments.

(Signed) Cmd. Bratschetalk 5 pillars of the Barnstarium Army, 03:22, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

p.s. And I hope you come back-b

I dont enjoy leaving wikipedia but users keep harrasing me. Their edits concentrate on reverting my edits only. No one so far have taken the mesures to stop this.
  • When I give govermental data thats pov because "governments have been known to lie" [1] some sane looking reverts dont quite have a basis. They are an expert on any and every issue I write.
  • If they could make Star Trek POV they would. Which is the only thing they havent interfered.
  • Even for articles I wrote such as Ranks and insignia of NATO Armies was bad [2]. I was "abusing" templates. I can go on forever.
In sum its pointless for me to edit wikipedia. They find ways to bother me. They are obsessed with my edits. Their lack of edits rather than reverts is the living proof of this. Two users work together and get involved in revert wars in almost any article I edit. They have 6 reverts while I have 3. There always is a concensus against me by the same users on almost any article I touch. --Cool Cat My Talk 21:31, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • You know what? I've found that editing contreversial articles isn't worth my time; the stress and toll it takes on me does not equal any work done, or any satisfaction found. My suggestion is, forget about the Armenian article altogether, and go do some RC patrol to get your stress level done. Nothing like good old work! Anything else, feel free to get on my talk page. Cheers, Bratschetalk 5 pillars 01:29, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
    Ture, but now any article I touch becomes contraversial. I have POV disputes with the same individuals on any article I go. Such as PKK, I am supposed to cite sources and yet I am supposed to "not discard the work of others out of hand". I am required to accept everyone elses work without them citing sources. Look at any POV dispute I have its with the same two idiots. --Cool Cat My Talk 10:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for your support

Thank you for supporting my candidacy for administrator. Kelly Martin 14:41, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ILGA

Hi, thanks for the kind words. No, I don't think you ever have voted for a town with no inhabitants, but we do have articles on them. I was simply trying to give perspective to the need for articles on different things. I think your argument for ILGA's North American branch would have been stronger had we been talking about a branch of the kind that banks have, but in fact it's a huge organisation in its own right -- a prominent voice in lesbian and gay affairs, which acts on its own account (ILGA is an umbrella body rather than a central body with branches that do its business here and there, which means that its regional "branches" are not exactly subsidiaries in that very narrow sense that a bank's branch is, but rather independent bodies that do their own thing). This is definitely something we should cover. I accept that you made the nomination in good faith, of course, but I think you were misguided. In any case, I think it is better to keep articles than to get rid of them, and to cover more rather than less. When confronted with an article such as that, I tend to try to discover whether there are equivalent articles for the other branches, and if not, I'm tempted to write them. Six well-written, short articles on the regions of ILGA would not be a demerit for WP in the way some of the shabby rubbish that really does merit concern is. Ask yourself this too: what if someone saw "ILGA-North America" in a paper or on a website and came to WP to find out what it was? Worst case, you could redirect it to the main ILGA page (and create the other redirects of course) and that user has been better served than finding a blank page. This is the approach I very much favour over VfD'ing marginal articles. I recognise that your mileage might vary. Grace Note 01:35, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User:Humanbot update 13 June 2005

The spelling2 project (to work on secondary namespaces) was opened and finished. Progress charts will be available soon.

Version six-three tracks who made the edits, and rankings are available. Much of the work was done while I was asleep, explaining my low place ;).

The next project, which may even be released today, will probably fix incorrectly capitalised headings, particularly "See Also" and "External Links".

The mailing list has grown to 24 people and while that is very nice for my ego, it is rather difficult to send out updates. This is why I did not send out a notice that the spelling2 project had opened. From now on, then, you must watch User:Humanbot/announce for updates. r3m0t talk 12:03, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] abakharev04:01, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with Careau fluid abakharev

[edit] Call to Action

Hey, Cmd. Bratsche! :) I know I'm about a week late on saying this, but thanks for the heads-up on the work level of the Barnstar and award proposal page. We're actually getting things done now, and other members of the Barnstarium Army are grateful as well. Have a WikiFlower as a token of our thanks!

Image:WikiThanks.png
This WikiFlower is hereby presented
to Bratsche for rekindling discussion on BAP,
thus allowing the Barnstarium Army members to
"vote liberally and spread constructive comments"
once more.

Sango123 13:46, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thank you for supporting my RfA candidacy. (No viola jokes from me - just now!, but the Ligeti sonata will be on Bayern-4 soon; I haven't heard it and hope to catch it myself. I used to play- not well!) (Hope this doesn't doublepost, though.) Schissel : bowl listen 23:23, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Hi! thank you for your kind words supporting my successful admin candidacy. I hope that you will always feel that I am a responsible administrator. JeremyA 05:31, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Theo RFA

Hi: Thank you for supporting my nomination. --Theo (Talk) 06:58, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My Rfa

Thank you for supporting me! --Kbdank71 13:28, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA: Thanks

Hi Bratsche! Thanks for supporting my RFA! Sjakkalle (Check!) 13:38, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for supporting me on my RfA. It's always nice to get some positive feedback. I hope I can put my new abilities to some good use. -- grm_wnr Esc 17:36, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Thank you for supporting my RFA. Guettarda 23:38, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

And thanks from me as well!  Grue  06:31, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Your RFA

is now underway. Good luck; the questions are there waiting. :-) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 12:32, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

My pleasure! Mindspillage (spill yours?) 14:53, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
You're welcome. I have no doubts that the mop and bucket will be in good hands. :-) --Deathphoenix 15:06, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

In recognition of your persistent dedication to the community on WP:BAP, I hereby award you with The Barnstar of Diligence - Sango123 16:53, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
In recognition of your persistent dedication to the community on WP:BAP, I hereby award you with The Barnstar of Diligence - Sango123 16:53, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

Hey, Bratsche. Good luck on your RfA! I figured it was about time you got a barnstar for your contributions to WP:BAP, so here: it's yours to keep. :) Sango123 16:53, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

I've been promoted to General of the Barnstarium Army? Wow! You made my day. :) And also, thanks for your vote against deleting Barnstarmy.jpg. May Barney-star live on! Sango123 16:44, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Viola Joke

Q: How do you tell the difference between an elephant roaring and a violist? A: The elephant's usually a half-step closer to pitch.

Glad to meet another musician! Sure, I'll drop in more jokes when I hear them. Good luck on your RfA. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 01:06, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm not so sure I deserved the wikicookie- it was delicious!- for the "interesting" joke- wasn't so funny when I heard it... thanks anyways! BTW, have you heard any good cello jokes? The MIT link only has two (pathetic) jokes. If so, drop them by! Thanks. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 22:31, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Timestamp

I find it very diffuclt to use UTC. I used GMT by mistake. Maltesedog 07:30, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)