Talk:Braveheart/Archive 3: 03/07 - 05/07
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[edit] Humane Rights Controversy
The "Battle of Stirling" scene, where many horses of the English Heavy Cavalry were impaled on a wall of improvised wooden spears, had sparked minor concerns of animal cruelty.
True or False? --Arima 03:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Needless to say, no animals were harmed in the making of this movie, or else it would be illegal. Other than that, Animal protestors protest at the use of animals in films, so naturally any film with animals would spark such protests. Tourskin 22:26, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- It was a concern. I am working on the production section, where that is included. Fromt he Braveheart DVD commentary, Gobson talked about how some animal rights person was so convinced that the scenes witht he horses were so real that he had to be shown a videotape of the production being made for a Make-a-Wish child that showed that the horses weren't being hurt at all. I should be finished with the production section this Sunday. Arcayne (cast a spell) 04:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pre monacta
I'm not sure thats how its spelled, but what about the Pre monacta stuff Longshanks talks about - you know, stealing a married man's wife on their first night. Tourskin 22:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Its actually called Prima noctae and, while it was a pactice, there isn't really that muchin the way of evidence that it was still in practice during Wallace's time. It may have been fudged historically in. Check out the link, which explains more about it. Arcayne (cast a spell) 04:51, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Unsourced Info
We cannot include information which is not cited through a reliable source. There are lots and lots of articles about this film out there. Please find citations for any statements added to the article.Arcayne (cast a spell) 20:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Spoilers
I agree with David and Phil on this. We don't need these ugly little warnings because this isn't a fan site, it's an encyclopedia. --Tony Sidaway 00:27, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
You are allowed to disagree. However, there is no governing policy in effect regarding this subject. Until there is, perhapos using the articles as a grass roots campaign to accomplish a fait accompli can be construed as WP:POINT. Change the policy, then change the article. That's my understanding of how it's usually done. Arcayne (cast a spell) 00:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
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- I'm changing the policy by changing the way I edit. This is the way we do things on Wikipedia. --Tony Sidaway 00:52, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I guess maintaining the current policy is the way I edit. It's also how we do things in WP. Perhaps you can fight this particular battle in the appropriate venue until then. :) Cheers. Arcayne (cast a spell) 01:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- There is no battle here. Policy is not fixed and immutable. It changes. --Tony Sidaway 05:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed. When it does in fact change, let's chat then. Until then, I would appreciate it if you would stop altering my sig. It isn't too long, and I am fully aware of your reasoning that you've used in the past to defend this peculiar abberent behavior. It doesn't apply here. Please stop; you may be quite unaware (though I cannot see how) how annoying this is to your feelow users. Perhaps you might want to consider that it is rather uncivil to mess with another person's edits, Arcayne (cast a spell) 09:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- You're too late. Wikipedia policy changed while you were worrying about the size and beauty of your luxuriant and voluptuous signature. --Tony Sidaway 18:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed. When it does in fact change, let's chat then. Until then, I would appreciate it if you would stop altering my sig. It isn't too long, and I am fully aware of your reasoning that you've used in the past to defend this peculiar abberent behavior. It doesn't apply here. Please stop; you may be quite unaware (though I cannot see how) how annoying this is to your feelow users. Perhaps you might want to consider that it is rather uncivil to mess with another person's edits, Arcayne (cast a spell) 09:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- There is no battle here. Policy is not fixed and immutable. It changes. --Tony Sidaway 05:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I guess maintaining the current policy is the way I edit. It's also how we do things in WP. Perhaps you can fight this particular battle in the appropriate venue until then. :) Cheers. Arcayne (cast a spell) 01:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm changing the policy by changing the way I edit. This is the way we do things on Wikipedia. --Tony Sidaway 00:52, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps you could tell us where this occurred, Mister Snippy.Arcayne (cast a spell) 20:08, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- All over the wiki. How many of you are there in there, Arcayne? Or is it the royal plural? --Tony Sidaway 20:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Don't be snippy. Perhaps you could point out a cited policy change, sir. Arcayne (cast a spell) 14:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
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- Wikipedia policy isn't prescribed, it merely describes. --Tony Sidaway 01:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- So, I guess that means you don't have a policy to cite, and are instead elevating your personal opinion as policy. Thanks for the clarity, Tom. Arcayne (cast a spell) 02:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia policy isn't prescribed, it merely describes. --Tony Sidaway 01:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Novel??
When was there a novel of Braveheart?
