Talk:Bramshill House

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[edit] Proposed merge

Very bad idea. The Police Staff College is an institution (is this the same as or only part of the Central Police Training and Development Authority?) and Bramshill House is an historic house. The college is housed in more than just the house and the house has a history much more extensive than that of the college. Verica Atrebatum 09:54, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The grade I listed house and the college are both notable in their own right, but for completely different reasons. I will remove the merge notice. Casperonline 13:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reported hauntings

Bramshill is well known as a reputedly haunted house. The ghosts/hauntings may or may not be 'rubbish'. This is down to your point of view, a disussion which has no place here. Hence the use of 'reported' and 'reputed'. However, the fact that the ghost sitings/hauntings have been reported is itself of note, particularly those with a basis in legend. Although the sitings themselves eventually become part of folklore. The source quoted is not 'questionable' as defined at Wikipedia:Verifiability:
"Questionable sources are those with a poor reputation for fact-checking or with no editorial oversight. Questionable sources should only be used in articles about themselves. Articles about such sources should not repeat any contentious claims the source has made about third parties, unless those claims have also been published by reliable sources."
This aspect of Bramshill should, perhaps, not be given too much emphasis, but a short paragraph, particularly including a link to the Legend of the Mistletoe Bough page, is certainly appropriate and ensures the entry does not become un-encyclopaedic. Without links from its supposed locations, the Mistletoe Bough page would be in danger of beoming orphaned. Walgamanus (talk) 11:27, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

• The only way you can use such dubious material is to include qualifying phrases like "some people think", "it has been said" or "Reported" WP:AWT suggests you need rather more than this. You are not dealing in facts but folklore, superstition and rumor. I'm more than happy to see seperate pages about these stories, but such claims do not belong on a factual page about the house unless they are supported by fact. WP:REDFLAG points out that exceptional claims require exceptional sources, it is not POV to say that factual Ghosts are exceptional. Does Ghosts of Hampshire & the Isle of Wight include citations and references for the source of its claims? As for the "Legend of the Mistletoe Bough", once the song became popular in the Victorian era every large old house in the country laid claim to its being the "true" location. If you can find any reference that connects this "legend" to Bramshill which pre-dates the publication of the song then it might be worth including. Mighty Antar (talk) 12:12, 18 November 2007 (UTC)