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Contents 1 Skull Diodes 2 Smallville's Milton Fine isn't Brainiac 3 Other media 4 Television section 5 Fibonacci Numbers 6 Pre-Crisis Braniac in Post-Crisis Universe (from "Brainiac" article) 7 Brainiac 5 8 section about "the batman"

[edit] Skull Diodes

If Superman #167 was Brainiac's first appearance with skull diodes, why does he have them on the cover of Action #242?

According to Alan Kristler's profile, they're on the cover, but not in the storyDaibhid C 22:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smallville's Milton Fine isn't Brainiac

Completely removed the TV section. There is no evidence that Milton Fine is Brainiac at all, I have no idea why the original editor created that section. 68.162.208.246 22:43, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

No on-screen evidence, perhaps, but hasn't there been any official publicity information referring to the character as Brainiac? (Plus, it at least deserves a note saying that there's this character who shares the same name as Braniac's post-Crisis human host...) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 23:28, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

The use of the name Milton Fine is more of an Easter egg than anything else. Not sure if you saw that latest Smallville episode, but basically Milton Fine was revealed to be a form of Kryptoniam artificial intelligence created by Zod, who came to Earth with the intention of killing Clark and freeing Zod (what he's freeing him from is unclear, some kind of other dimension he's trapped in, I suppose). Clark kills Fine at the end of the episode, and there's no evidence that we'll be seeing him again. That doesn't sound anything like any other Brainiac-related story I've heard. Feel free to add the note about them sharing the name, though. 68.162.208.203 16:59, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

I've restored the section, based on publicity that widely named James Marsters' character as Brainiac. True, he wasn't named as such in the series; but neither were the Flash and Aquaman named as such in their guest appearances. I think the publicity descriptions of the character I've linked to in the article are sufficient to justify including the Smallville character in this article. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 23:47, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

P.S. The idea of Brainiac as a Kryptonian artificial intelligence is similar to the interpretation of the character in the animated Superman and Justice League series.

Yep, as soon as I connected the name "Milton Fine" with the "Kryptonian Supercomputer" I thought "So Smallville's Brainiac is the animated version." (Another Kryptonian computer called Brainiac appears in the Elseworlds story Shogun of Steel, incidentally.) 68.162.208.203 is right about the name being an Easter Egg, but the fact they chose that name must be significant; if it was "David Conners", I'd be advocating adding the character to the Eradicator article.Daibhid C 22:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I remember that episode of Smallville. They were introducing the Eradicator, right?

In 'Vessel', Jor-el refers to Fine as the Brain InterActive Construct (Brain-i-a-c). Is this worth mentioning?

It already is mentioned. Check out the first paragraph under Television. CovenantD 01:09, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me.

[edit] Other media

Although we all try and forget the movie, should Superman III be included as a appearance of Brainiac? My understanding is that the super-computer was derived from his character.

I never saw that movie, but if it was meant as a reference or shares a similar origin, then yes. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 05:30, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

The Character [[Optilux]] in the comic strip [[The Supreme]] is a Brainiac homage.

[edit] Television section

This section needs condensing. There is too much detail in the plot summaries. This is not supposed to be a substitute for watching the series. CovenantD 15:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Um...that what is it supposed to be? It's a fictional character history! If you would rather move the section to another article, you might as well say so rather than say the sources are "unverifiable". ---User:Johnnyfog.

A character history doesn't supercede policy on fictional universe articles. There are better ways to describe the character history without detailing events in each episode they have appeared in. It's called "out-of-universe" information, found from reliable sources, not information obtained from merely viewing the episode. I know Gough and Millar have discussed Brainiac many times during the course of Season 5. BTW, please tone down your comments and be a little more civil, you didn't have a reason to lash out at CovenantD. To the point, if it's "unverifiable" that doesn't mean that it needs to be moved, that means that you need to find sources that back up your information, otherwise it's considered speculation because anyone can think anything they want by merely watching the episode. That is why Wikipedia states that direct observation of the media is not a valid source. You can mention what happens there, but you shouldn't present it as fact if no one else backs it up. But Cov's right, the entire section (not to mention the verification) needs slimming. That character was on the show for 1 season, and not even every episode and yet that section is larger than most of the others that contain information from mediums that the character has been around longer. Bignole

[edit] Fibonacci Numbers

This is most likely a coincidence, but it seems that every numbered Brainiac with the exception of Brainiac-12 (who logically would have been numbered as such solely to connect him to Brainiac-13), as well as a few others if given numbers that logically fit their place in Brainiac's history, fit the first several numbers in the Fibonacci sequence. Is this worth a mention? It's a bit of a reach for now, but I wouldn't be surprised if the next one we see calls himself Brainiac-21...

[edit] Pre-Crisis Braniac in Post-Crisis Universe (from "Brainiac" article)

The information here is very confusing with very bad wording. Perhaps someone with knowledge of this storyline should rewrite it. I have no idea what to write because I have not read the story. 76.107.71.114 03:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Likewise the Pre-Crisis section needs some fine tuning to clarify that it is Brainiac 2 whose real name is Vril (sentence belongs in previous paragraph). Or is it? Man, this is one messed up character. Asat 07:44, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Quite confusing. This lists Braniac's alter ego as "Vril Dox" whereas, on the Vril Dox page, the textbox says that Dox's real name is Vril Dox II. On the Vril Dox page, the name Braniac 2 is not even mentioned once. I'm beginning to wonder whether or not that article should be entitled either Brainiac 2 or Vril Dox II. I suppose this is not the right place for me to ponder that but I still concur that Braniac is a confusing fellow indeed. Czar Baldy Bald IV 23:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brainiac 5

Is there any reason to have the info on Brainiac 5 in other media in this article. The 2 are separate characters, and B5 has his own article. Dstumme (talk) 21:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] section about "the batman"

I do not think the section added here should be in this article. 1)This article is for Brainiac. He does not appear in that show. At least not to where the above addition mentions it. 2)It contains unsourced speculation. If anyone disagrees with me, feel free to discuss it here. I'm removing the section again.--Rockfang (talk) 23:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)