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Brahui is a language not a people. Those who speak Brahui are Baloch by race.

Brahui or Bravee is a language spoken only by Baloch people. Though the national language of the Baloch race is Baloch anf Brahui is their,Balochs, second language after Balochi. There is a lot of confusion in west(Europe,North America) that Brahui speakers are different from Balochi speakers,infact Baloch is a one race and had two languages Baloch and Brahui. Those who speak Brahui are known as Brahuis(or Brahui Balochs).Baloch society is divided in tens of tribes, some tribes speak Brahui and some speak Balochi, there are many tribes who spoke Balochi and Brahui both. Like the Langov tribe ,who live in central Balochistan at Mangochar area, speak Balochi as their first language and Brahui as second. The Bezenjo tribe live in Khuzdar, Nal and regions of Makkura, who speak Baloch and Brahui both like one house speaks Balochi the other speaks Brahui. And one of the largest tribes of the Balochs the Muhammadsanis speak both of the languages. We must see the Bangulzai tribe which infact is a Brahui speaking tribe but the sub-tribe of the Bangulzai the Garanis speak Balochi and are known as Balochi speaker Bangulzais. Presently Brahui is spoken in Balochistan(Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan) northern Iran, Trukmanistan, Sindh and Gulf Arab states. The Kings/Khans of Balochistan were Brahui speakers but their court languages was Balochi.

Contents 1 Brahui the Brahui speakers of Balochs. 2 Comments by Balochs 3 Problems with calling this article Brahui people 4 religion 5 "related groups" info removed from infobox 6 Dravidians are an ethnic group. 7 WikiProject Dravidian civilizations

[edit] Brahui the Brahui speakers of Balochs.

Brahui or Bravee is a language spoken only by Baloch people. Though the national language of the Baloch race is Baloch anf Brahui is their,Balochs, second language after Balochi. There is a lot of confusion in west(Europe,North America) that Brahui speakers are different from Balochi speakers,infact Baloch is a one race and had two languages Baloch and Brahui. Those who speak Brahui are known as Brahuis(or Brahui Balochs).Baloch society is divided in tens of tribes, some tribes speak Brahui and some speak Balochi, there are many tribes who spoke Balochi and Brahui both. Like the Langov tribe ,who live in central Balochistan at Mangochar area, speak Balochi as their first language and Brahui as second. The Bezenjo tribe live in Khuzdar, Nal and regions of Makkura, who speak Baloch and Brahui both like one house speaks Balochi the other speaks Brahui. And one of the largest tribes of the Balochs the Muhammadsanis speak both of the languages. We must see the Bangulzai tribe which infact is a Brahui speaking tribe but the sub-tribe of the Bangulzai the Garanis speak Balochi and are known as Balochi speaker Bangulzais. Presently Brahui is spoken in Balochistan(Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan) northern Iran, Trukmanistan, Sindh and Gulf Arab states. The Kings/Khans of Balochistan were Brahui speakers but their court languages was Balochi.

[edit] Comments by Balochs

Brahui, Brahooee, Bravi is a language spoken only by Baloch people. Though the national language of the Baloch race is Baloch anf Brahui is their,Balochs, second language after Balochi. There is a lot of confusion in west(Europe,North America) that Brahui speakers are different from Balochi speakers,infact Baloch is a one race and had two languages Baloch and Brahui. Those who speak Brahui are known as Brahuis(or Brahui Balochs).Baloch society is divided in tens of tribes, some tribes speak Brahui and some speak Balochi, there are many tribes who spoke Balochi and Brahui both. Like the Langov tribe ,who live in central Balochistan at Mangochar area, speak Balochi as their first language and Brahui as second. The Bezenjo tribe live in Khuzdar, Nal and regions of Makkura, who speak Baloch and Brahui both like one house speaks Balochi the other speaks Brahui. And one of the largest tribes of the Balochs the Muhammadsanis speak both of the languages. We must see the Bangulzai tribe which infact is a Brahui speaking tribe but the sub-tribe of the Bangulzai the Garanis speak Balochi and are known as Balochi speaker Bangulzais. Presently Brahui is spoken in Balochistan(Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan) northern Iran, Trukmanistan, Sindh and Gulf Arab states. The Kings/Khans of Balochistan were Brahui speakers but their court languages was Balochi.

[edit] Problems with calling this article Brahui people

I didn't name this article and maybe the name should be changed if it's meaning is unclear. It could be changed to "Brahui speakers" or something like that. It's not talking about a race or tribe but about those people who speak Brahui. I moved the "Comments by..." off the front page because the informal tone would get this article back into the wikify bin where it has been since the "Comments by . . ." was added the first time. Mattisse(talk) 23:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

well bascially if you see brohi(Barhi) are not balouch but now they are mixed and it is hard to find who is and who is not beacuse many tribes speak balouchi and borhi at meantime and khan of kalat are from Brohi tribe too but they are though to be balouchi and they are proud of it. Yeah Brohi(most of my friend write brohi rather then the way you wrote it)(Barhui) speak Bravi(or Brahui Language).

Khalidkhoso 04:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] religion

what religion are they?

Muslim Specially Sunni sect (most of them thought to be orthodox in Sindh as religious point of view).

any thing u wanna know ask

Khalidkhoso 04:44, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "related groups" info removed from infobox

For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 20:28, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dravidians are an ethnic group.

Genetically Dravidian speakers of India are different from Indo-Aryans as proved in David Frawley's work and recent genetic studies. However Brahui people are neither Indo-Aryan or related to Dravidian peoples of South India as they are ethnically same as the Balochis. Change ethnic Dravidians to ethnic Iranian people who speak a Dravidian language.

David Frawley is a fringe writer, not a geneticist. Indeed his evidence comes from very obsolete literature on race. India is very genetically diverse. There are no clear distinctions between definable groups, for sure, but that does not have any relevance to the fact that Brahui are Dravidian. I's not a biological concept. Paul B 10:22, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Just because modern Brahui speakers in Balochistan reject the Dravidian origin of Brahui(for obvious reasons), doesn't change the fact that structure of the language is distinctly dravidian by any linguistic standards, that is why there is a general consensus among scholars around the world about Brahui's dravidian origin. Now, ethnic or genetic compositioin of the Brahui speakers is a totally different matter and is obviously more akin to Balochis, being sorrounded by them, so is the modern vocabulary of the language.

Brahui language is the last remnant of Indus valley civilization which started with the Mehargarh culture in Balochistan. This situation is more like Greeks or Italians in America that speak English as their first language. There is a tendency among Baloch people to identify with Iranians as Iran controls a part of Balochistan. But, Balochistan in itself is an amalgamation of different linguistic and cultural influences. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.76.44 (talk) 00:15, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Dravidian civilizations

Wiki Raja 10:56, 14 October 2007 (UTC)