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Contents 1 Page move 2 Merge request 3 Brahmastra 4 Lead image 5 Speculations on Biblical connections

[edit] Page move

Given that Brahma the god is the only thing mentioned in Wikipedia which is called Brahma, other than a brand of beer, why don't we move this page to Brahma and move the current contents of Brahma to Brahman (disambiguation)? - Nat Krause 14:46, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Merge request

Seems like the Thai form of Brahma deserves attention in itself. If the articles are merged it will be important to retain attention to the Thai contexts of Brahma veneration as an important link to Hindu practices in Thailand, showing the continuity within the Indic/Dharmic religious tradtion into the wider context of Thai Buddhism. It might be worth coonsdiering a longer essay on Thai religion, or a more expanded discussion in the Thai Buddhism article of the role of the Hindu devas in Thai worship.

CharlusIngus.

I agree - the Phra phom article is better as a page in itself, or as an additional entry on another page. Is sounds similar to the Brahma (Buddhism) entry also. I am removing the merge notice. GourangaUK 11:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I think most of the iconography is same in Phra phom and Brahma. The Phra phom article starts with saying "Phra Phrom is the Thai representation of the Hindu god Brahma". So Phra Phrom can be merged in Brahma or a reference to Phra phom can be included in Brahma article.--Redtigerxyz 10:29, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brahmastra

There should be some discussion / hyperlinks to Brahmastra, the arrow/weapon made by Brahma.

link here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmastra

--58.107.194.151 05:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC)--58.107.194.151 05:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lead image

The current image is a sculpture but I think so it should be an image or an old painting for the time being and later into a modern image.--Donrub 18:35, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Even i think it can be an PD-art image.--Redtigerxyz 12:52, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speculations on Biblical connections

I found in the page talking about Abraham 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham' a section called "Speculations on Hindu connections" that talks about alleged connections between biblical Abraham and hindu Brahma. So whether such a connection is true or not, i think if it is mentioned in the page of Abraham why isn't it in this article, too. Well it should be since it is shared information about both, especially that it is supported by references. I am not very good in wiki or even english so i did what i thought is best. I didn't know how to add the references. so if u can help that would be great. the only thing i changed is the title from "Speculations on Hindu connections" to "Speculations on Biblical connections" since that would make more since when posted about the Hindu Brahma. – — … ° ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § Samimas: Samimas (talk) 14:29, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately that whole section is poorly sourced to Hindu, Muslim, and Christian blogs/extremist sites. If you wish to add relevant information please find appropriate sources, such as scholarly articles or books on the subject. Abecedare (talk) 06:41, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I thought that perhaps there is a reliable Proto-Indo-European dictionary out there that can connect the words together, just like Zeus and Dyaus Pitar. But of course, a major hole in this hypothesis is that Hebrew isn't an Indo-European language, and that the established etymologies for each word are fairly different. Maybe they have a common ancestor in the Proto-World language, but until qualified experts begin researching this is more detail and publish their views in the form of reliable sources, the "speculation" will remain as WP:OR. Gizza^{Discuss ©} 07:15, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

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Yes, any etymological connection would have to be sourced to a scholarly source.
AFAIK, the whole Brahma-Abraham link is based on an isolated quote from Voltaire's, 1764 Dictionnaire philosophique (see page 18) where he writes (emphasis added):

For the rest, this name of Bram, or Abram, was famous in Judæa and in Persia. Several of the learned even assert that he was the same legislator whom the Greeks called Zoroaster. Others say that he was the Brahma of the Indians, which is not demonstrated. But it appears very reasonable to many that this Abraham was a Chaldæan or a Persian, from whom the Jews afterwards boasted of having descended, as the Franks did of their descent from Hector, and the Britons from Tubal.

Given the minor and admittedly speculative sentence, I don't think this needs to be mentioned in the article; but if others feel otherwise, at least it is verifiable. However, references to hinduunity.org, cyberistan.org and viewzone.com, to establish currency of such beliefs is silly.
There was a recent attempt by now-banned User:DWhiskaZ and his socks to draw links between Mohammad and the Bhavishya Purana etc on various pages (see [1] for example); I don't know if this is linked in anyway since another of his sock User:Hindustan10 recently edited this article too. Abecedare (talk) 07:45, 5 April 2008 (UTC)