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[edit] List of notable Bradfordians

This is getting to the size where it needs splitting off into a separate article what do you think? --Nate1481( t/c) 16:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

There is a category, 'People from Bradford', which already serves the purpose of listing notable Bradfordians. Maybe we should just direct people there, and not have a list in the Bradford article at all. Either that or the list in the Bradford article should be a bit more choosey about who is displayed. Obviously, defining who should appear on a limited list will be difficult! Nick Watts 09:52, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Redirect leaving only most notable such as JB priestly sir Titus salt, Eric Anderson VC, Richard Dunn, Richard Whiteley, the brontes --Nate1481( t/c) 11:44, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Original list:

some more may need to go as only my pov, left high honours (e.g. VC) statues, something named after them. Politician notable for th simple list but not for main article, a chancellor is. --Nate1481( t/c) 10:35, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] who to leave in

After reading this I see what you are doing tidying it up. I think it may be worth leaving one, or maybe two "pop" personalities in the list. Wikipedia is used by a lot of people and maybe a young person moving to Bradford for example would find that more relevant than The Brontë sisters, Richard Oastler, etc. -- Q Chris 09:13, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
My feeling is that for a pop star to be on the reduced list they should have stood the test of time a bit. With all due respect to them, I can't imagine Gareth Gates and Kimberley Walsh being well remembered in five or ten years time. If they become the next Elvis or Madonna, then, by all means, reinstate them. Nick Watts 11:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what my opinion on that is! On the one hand I agree that they are unlikely to be remembered in the future. On the other hand Wikipedia is not constrained in the same way that printed encyclopedias are, in that there will not be thousands of ten year old editions lying around looking dated. Would there be any harm in leaving them in for a year or so? Anyway I will go with whatever people decide. -- Q Chris 12:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I think leave them for now I haven't heard of garath in news recently but that says very little as didn't even recognise the other name just the group (I hate manufactured pop...) --Nate1481( t/c) 12:39, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I've just put back David Hockney - he's by far the most famous living person from Bradford. By all means include flash-in-the-pan popstars too, but Peter Sutcliffe, a "Notable Bradfordian"??--Cpottle 21:36, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed: The Abundant Life Church is one of the biggest in the UK.

I removed this line:

The Abundant Life Church is one of the biggest in the UK.

The Abundant Life Church probably does warrant a mention, the above sentence is meaningless. The biggest what? Not church physically by any means. Does it mean one of the biggest congregations? Perhaps, though this would need a reference (KICC claims 10,000 members [1], but it is still possible that this is out on its own and that Abundant Life Church is one of the largest). Perhaps it means one of the largest Abundant Life Churches? If so, aren't there only a couple of them so this is rather redundant. It would be better to simply say that the head quarters of the Abundant life church is in Bradford. -- Q Chris 08:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I've re-added the statement, with a citeation from thier website. I just feel it's silly to not include ALM, when it's faily large, although I do take you're point that you make above. 213.123.199.183 (talk) 09:31, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I have no objection to it being re-added with references, and your wording certainly avoided the above problems. However I can see someone removed it. I guess the reason was that it was a one sentence paragraph, and appeared non-encyclopaedic. I have attempted to add your entry to the paragraph on nonconformity, which seems to be the right place. -- Q Chris (talk) 10:48, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] demographics

Shouldn't there be a demographics paragraph in the article as well? There is one in the German Wikipedia article. I mean for a city this size and importance ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.155.128.109 (talk) 15:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Is that graph missing perhaps because Bradford has a Muslim majority (according to news reports at least)? I fully support a demographics graph addressing the issue, which I take to be pretty relevant in a country and a city that has had a huge Christian majority for about 1,000 years. Aussiesta (talk) 14:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Demographics are here: City of Bradford#Demographics . Though some areas of Bradford have a muslim majority, across the district as a whole more than three-quarters of the population are white. -- NRTurner (talk) 14:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] External links

The External links list is sprawling out of control with the vast majority being out of sync with Wikipedia's policies on WP:EL and WP:SPAM. I'd recommend a radical trim-down, so we're more inline with Manchester or London. -- Jza84 · (talk) 15:56, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life"

Wikipedia wants a citation. I don't know about that, but certain scenes during the song "Every sperm is sacred" have clearly been shot in front of Cartwright Hall in Lister Park, North Bradford. 79.69.143.146 (talk) 21:49, 30 March 2008 (UTC)S McC

Done. Don't know how accurate the source is but it confirms this. -- NRTurner (talk) 00:32, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Worst lead ever?

To say this is a major city, with its own dedicated WikiProject, I'm horrified by the state of this article, particularly the lead! What's happening here? If there's no objection, I'd like to fix up the lead this evening. --Jza84 |  Talk  15:59, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I've made some changes with this diff. I don't pretend to know much about the city, and I'm aware that some material may pertain to the wider borough, but it's certainly more befitting to Braford that it had been. Hope it helps, --Jza84 |  Talk  18:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time to improve the article. Keith D (talk) 01:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Much better, makes the city sound more appealing :) NRTurner (talk) 09:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)