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[edit] Race riots

The claim that this gang "sparked" the race riots was quite rightly removed... however something still needs to be said about their role in the whole affair, with reference to media reports and other sources... anyone game?--Russell E 06:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

  • They appeared on the SBS 9:30 news tonight embracing members of the Comancheros (a bikie group with lots of members with a Lebanese background) saying that they had nothing to do with it and describing all those involved as gutless. ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 11:23, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Surfer gang

Can someone from Australia perhaps write a little article about the history and concept of a surfer gang itself. It is an interesting novelty for the rest of the world. Tfine80 03:17, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Glad to help.... it's only a short story, quite pathetic really... and it kinds goes like this: Once upon a time, a bunch of small minded rasist bigots who had developed the skill to ride surfboards, got it into their minds that they had a material right to possess a beach, more specifically the surf that rolled onto that beach, and any surrounding areas that they chose to be so. Based on the gang-mentality, viloence, threats of violence, these bigots decided to name themselves and protect 'their' beach and 'their' surf from anyone else who wanted to use it; read swim, surf, simply enjoy the scenery.

Anyway... all the usual stories now about - the fights, the tough guys, the power of the crowds, renaming beaches and surf breaks "Ours". Naturally to appear socially acceptable, they will follow the standard church/politician/mafia examples of helping out the downtrodden and campaigning against anythng that offends their 'life' whenever convenient, or whenever the need or want the press.

Of course there are those leeches who will seek to profit from them, like the Press, film makers and tatoo artists.

As you can see, it's just another sad story in the lives of people who don't really have a life or a mind of their own, but create their own version of a life by denying other people their basic rights. Life's full of little people with little minds; the Bra Boys are a classic example. Hey someone could really have some fun by simply changing the postcode of Maroubra to 2999.

Next week: "Fearing Skippy: My life as a wallaby in the world of kangaroos." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.169.186.10 (talk) 02:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bah Boys

This article was recently created. I was just wondering if anyone here knows anything about the "Bah Boys". Are they real? Or did the user who created the article confuse the "Bra Boys" for the "Bah Boys"? Thanks - Akamad 06:29, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Never mind, it seems the article has been deleted. - Akamad 10:35, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

think the BRA boys are by far the most idiotic gang iv ever herd of... for the simpke fact that u beat up a pro bodyboarder. mitch rawlins is one of by the best bodyboarders around and he'll rip the BRA boys to pieces in any type surf. BRA boys u suck

[edit] Keep It... And link to Surf Culture.

The Bra Boys dont care for American movies or gang culture.

They are an outstanding example of modern Australian Surf Culture.

This page should link to the Surf Culture page, which should in turn reference this page.

[edit] Just removed...

I just removed the following:

Traditionally those in the group shared a similar demographic: low socioeconomic class, and a high unemployment rate.
Domestic violence, drug, and alcohol abuse are still commonplace today. With proximity to the coast and the glamour of the beach lifestyle, surfing and the companionship of other youth in similar situations has thus been a natural escape. However, the Bra Boys still to this day have a longstanding reputation for asserting weak standover tactics against many individuals and small groups. This intimidating behaviour (seen amongst most gangs) has not only been reported at Maroubra Beach but also at many other surfing spots up and down Australia's east coast. It is this aspect of the Bra Boys which has earned them great disfavour amongst the majority of Australia's surfing population.

It was unsourced and for assertions so extreme one is needed at least. Feel free to add it back if you have reputable references. DarkSideOfTheSpoon 17:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Interesting that it was added in the first place!

Although the first paragraph is true, the rest is mixed and questionable. Current and former members state in various media interviews that they formed partially as a reaction to the drug problem in their neighbourhood and the influx of external gangs. Hard drugs are "officially" frowned upon, although alcohol and soft drug (primarily marijuana) use is tolerated. The "standover tactics" listed here are, IMO, questionable too. Yes, they are very localised surfers - you need to show respect to them if you want to share their waves. Yes - they have kicked in the doors of known drug dealers, given them a beating and flushed their drugs down the toilet. But their overall impact in the Maroubra community seems to be very positive and the Australian surfing community in general does seem to admire them.

I highly recommend anyone interested reads "Bruvvas From The Gutter" by Matt Griggs, first published in Tracks Magazine 2003 and reprinted in "Waves: great Stories From The Surf" (ISBN 0732283302, Chapter 8, page 81). Dougirwin13 01:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


I need to point out that the waves are not 'their waves'. The waves are there for anyone who wants to surf them, look at them, photograph them, ignore them. I do not need to show respect to a group of idiots who claim ownership of waves - how have they earnt that respect? What, by being a surfer? Besides, how do you own a wave? It is a manifestation of kinetic energy meeting a immovable object named the coastline?

I guess if the surfing sub-culture was not worth as much money to the commercial world, then the Bra Boys would really just be another bunch of girls. By making all the young kiddies relate to surfing, thereby seeing themselves as cool, tough, a man, (i.e. now I'm like a braboy - now can I get me tatoo??) you obtain lots of money of them and their parents. This has occurred every since surfing has commercial products - about 40 years.

It's not about a bunch of losers, it's about the money they generate for the commercial world, most probably without gaining a cent of it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.7.166.182 (talk) 08:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

These idiots are lucky they haven't faced a sniper attack from shore... yet. I'm sure they'd make good shark meat out there bobbing up and down bleeding to death in the water. Staking out territory and claiming it as your own without any right to do so has led and will always lead to violence. They are dead men. I'd like to see these morons try to pull this on an American beach nowadays. They'd all be shot to death by now. Those little Napoleons are lucky to still be alive. Little loser babies splashing in their bathtub get angry when adults take away their play toy. Can't wait to see it soon. Losers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.117.134.180 (talk) 11:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Name

The Bra Boys are named after the suburb Maroubra and not the Board Riders Association. This was confirmed by Koby and Sunny on Triple J's breakfast show 'Myf, Jay & the Doctor' on the 7th March 2007. I think some people may read into things a bit too far sometimes. Seperx 20:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Doco

I actually read the links that were provided in the documentary section. One quote was missing, and one was completely out of context (I mate notes in the discusion page). I deleted both, and rewrote the remaining which is linked to David&Margaret Disco 04:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC) These guys are nothing more than drug taking, alcohol swilling thugs who gang up on and beat up other people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.154.21.62 (talk) 22:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)