Talk:Bowl (smoking)

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Granted, it's an article on stoner culture, but fucking hell... Total crap, even for Wikipedia. 68.181.217.162 23:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


An article titled "bowl"is biased from the gitgo-- toward overdose. (Consider the Russian word болшой-- it means BIG.) Readers attracted by the "slang" word bowl should be reminded that the bigger the bowl, the hotter the herb will burn, destroying THC and damaging your health.

If you refer to the bizness opening of your smoking utensil as a crater instead of a bowl, there's a chance you are using one with a narrow diameter and achieving LSMFT (Life Saving Minimum Firing Temperature). In all the objects pictured, only one has a small enough diameter and its stem is too short. (A long flexible tube can be attached such as those found on hookahs.)


Otherwise, this whole article is just so much advertising for the hot-burning-overdose head-shop industry, which plays into the hands of the cigaret industry (the Big Tobacco profit margin is based on promoting overdose as if it were normal).64.107.0.169 01:12, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


→64.107.0.169...Are you kidding me?? There is no such thing as a marijuana overdose from smoking. Not within the realm of probability, anyhow.

"A 160-pound (73 Kilogram) person would require 9,125 mg of THC to receive a fatal overdose" "Understanding Marijuana- A New Look At The Scientific Evidence" Mitch Earleywine; Page 144, Second sentence.

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Marijuana is so safe that it would be almost impossible to overdose on it. Doctors determine how safe a drug is by measuring how much it takes to kill a person (they call this the LD50) and comparing it to the amount of the drug which is usually taken (ED50). This makes marijuana hundreds of times safer than alcohol, tobacco, or caffiene. According to a DEA Judge ``marijuana is the safest therapeutically active substance known to mankind.Erowid.org - http://erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_faq1.shtml#3-4

The bigger bowl does NOT mean a hotter burn. It simply means more marijuana per bowl. The diameter of the opening at the BOTTOM of the bowl through which air is drawn by the smoker would determine the airflow. Also, the only thing remotely related to ANY smoking with "LSMFT", is "Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco/Taste" which was a 50s/60s cigarette ad campaign. You OBVIOUSLY know nothing about marijuana. Please comment elsewhere. DruggeekShaun--98.18.15.180 (talk) 01:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

1. Sorry-- I didn't mean to imply riefer was to blame for the overdose problem-- "It's the equipment, stupid!" In fact, bronchitis and other noticeable issues resulting from H.B.O. (hot-burning overdose) are conveniently blamed on the cannabis so legislators bribed by the tobacco industry can pass more anti-cannabis laws. If Wikipedia editors get a handle on this maybe we can get our herb legalized. (Wikimedia wants to "change the world", remember?)

2. For update on LSMFT see Wiktionary: Protologisms/ List of Protologisms by Topic/Medicotechnological (smoking) terms.

3. To resolve our debate over whether a wide bowl means hotter burning, what's needed is a well-funded laboratory study comparing the burning temperature in a 1/4"(6 mm.) i.d. crater with other diameters, up to nickel and quarter and so forth, and with hot-burning "joint" and "blunt". A commercial cigaret is known (for decades) to burn at 1500 degrees F/860 C when victim is sucking on it-- and that just 7 inches from your trachea! Any medical research institution that tries to do this kind of research (which could benefit cannabis users and promote a safe cannabis use paradigm) risks losing their funding, accreditation etc. because of the monstrous financial power of the tobacco industry (None Dare Call It Conspiracy).

4. I hate to say it but these head-shops pushing their wide-bowl suicide-gesture bravado equipment are just pushing a tobacco culture masquerading as a "cannabis culture". For centuries leading up to the 700-mg. cigaret, Big Tobacco has been pushing overdose just to rake in more profits. Result: 5 million deaths/year worldwide. What if cannabis users got our act together and exterminated this monster, how many Nobels would we earn? Aside from getting the herb legalized. When tobacco addicts start imitating our example and using a quarter-inch i.d. utensil the battle will be won.

5 Meanwhile work on getting some relevant health information into this cannabis smoking article.66.99.1.105 (talk) 21:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

The page needed a SERIOUS expansion and re-vamping.. Added the "under construction" because I had to get some sleep. I will continue upon waking and will be adding sources etc.. Sections not revamped or expanded were left As Is so the page was not incomplete.--DrugGeek (talk) 10:09, 22 November 2007 (UTC)