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[edit] "a theme the director says is not even in the film."

The WP:OR edit summary, DIFF -- Do you have a source for this? Or is this just your own unsourced, WP:OR? Just curious, is all. Cirt (talk) 21:09, 10 January 2008 (UTC).

Sigh, I gave you the source for that when we discussed this last month on the template page. And why are you making a big deal out of "still looking, will expand the section with other themes" - just use the same reviews that you cherry-picked the "anti-Scientology" theme from; there is plenty of material there. --JustaHulk (talk) 21:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Really? You gave me a source for your claim that the director, Frank Oz, says this theme is "not even in the film" ??? I do not recall that. I recall that only being a part of your own personal unsourced, WP:OR claims and allegations in edit summaries. Cirt (talk) 21:28, 10 January 2008 (UTC).

Sorry, I meant that Steve Martin denied the reference to Scientology - it has been so long since we discussed this. Yes, on the template page I gave you the reference. --JustaHulk (talk) 21:40, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

• Okay, no problem, your mistake. And the Steve Martin reference is already in the article. Cirt (talk) 21:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC).

I restored the discussion we had previously in which I provided you the refs in answer to your last claim that I was engaging in OR. Your mistake, I guess. --JustaHulk (talk) 21:47, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

And Frank Oz never said anything of the sort, and the Steve Martin thing is in the article. Your mistake, I guess. Cirt (talk) 21:49, 10 January 2008 (UTC).

I already said that when I said "director" I misremembered Martin's role in the film. I already said that. Do you want to say I made an error a third time? Go ahead. Enjoy the moment. Then have a cigarette. --JustaHulk (talk) 21:59, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

And regarding the "Steve Martin thing is in the article", you managed to get "pastiche" bit in there without mentioning "It's not a direct reference to Scientology, says Martin.", something the reliable source I gave you says. Yet you manage to mention ad nauseum every reviewer that thought it was. Food for thought. --JustaHulk (talk) 22:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Food for thought - I added a verbatim quote from the reliable source. The other source that you gave was not reliable. Cirt (talk) 01:07, 11 January 2008 (UTC).

• Y Done - Expanded the Themes section three-fold. Also added a sentence from The Cincinatti Enquirer, "For the record, Mr. Martin denies MindHead is based on Scientology." I did manage to find after looking through about (30) or so more review by film critics, at least that many more references comparing the film's references and the "MindHead" cult to Scientology - but I did not add those into the article. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 03:12, 11 January 2008 (UTC).