Talk:Bowen Technique
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No clinical tials means that the Bowen Technique simply joins the ranks of pretend medicines alongside homeopathy etc. If this 'therapy' worked beyond a placebo effect it would cease to be alternative and become fully-fledged medicine. So-called trials, by those with vested interests only make matters worse, suggesting that even its proponents don't believe that it could stand up to a clinical trial. Go on, set up a double-blind trial and overnight these accusations would go away. Remember that anecdotal evidence is not evidence, it's not scientific and it's not clinical. If Bowen evangelists are OK with this then why not just say it's a massage that can make people feel better-in the same way as a placebo does. Otherwise quit the pretence.
Response: Bowen has been clinically trialled under ethical approval. The work on hamstring flexibility presented at Conference and the abstract published and peer reviewed in Journal of Bodywork and Movement Therapy (Elsevier). This was a study with a control group. With any degree of understanding of either trials or Bowen, the above author might know that double blind trials would be extremely unlikely for manual therapy. Evidence based clinical trial does not mean 'fully fledged medicine' and in reverse most medical practice in common use has not been subject to clinical trial. Bowen is practiced widely in primary care situations throughout the United Kingdom and efficacy and safety accepted
Further trials are under way, and early dissective evidence is being collected. The relatively new understanding of structural function and fascial integrity is lending weight to the growing scientific interest in soft tissue manipulation such as Bowen. Bowen is still relatively new, but is taking steps to subject itself to widespread scrutiny.
81.107.76.244 (talk) 01:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)joolsbaker81.107.76.244 (talk) 01:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] The Bowen Technique
The Bowen Technique can be combined with other therapies. Accordign to Kevin Ryan and Romney Smeaton, Tom Bowen often experimented with other techniques.
When Ossie Rentsch began teaching he students to performe skeletal manipulations as well. It was not until he was told that it was illegal to do so that he changed his teaching to include the self-manipulation of the elbow using an osteopathic technique.
Tom Bowen would often refer clients to Nigel Love if he wasnt able to perform the manipulation himself.
When in a wheelchair Tom Bowen made use of assistants to hold the clients clothing so he could work on the skin. He did not believe that he had the palpatory skills needed to treat someone through their clothes and also saw the skin as an important area of diagnosis.
[edit] neutrality
This article seems to be pushing one or several agendas. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.168.82.163 (talk) 18:13, 19 February 2007 (UTC).
- Research papers are mentioned in this article, but not properly cited. Without proper citation scientific evidence is at best meaningless, at worst plagerism. Povmcdov 15:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Modern Times
Most clients were told by Tom specifically not to have any other forms of treatment than his. It's a step from Tom suggesting or even performing a certain minor ostepathic adjustment, to suggesting that Bowen can be successfully mixed with the thousands of therapies now in existence. This creates confusion and a problem of identification. Rightly or wrongly it has been accepted within its definition that with regulation, the protected title of Bowen Technique will be as a stand alone therapy.
Perhaps the four principles of Bowen should be posted as part of the article?
Also a bit wary of unsigned posts.
Joolsbaker 16:44, 6 August 2007 (UTC)Julian Baker
[edit] Homeopathy
Given that Homeopathy effectiveness is highly questioned, should this article really say so authoratively (without any evidence) that Bowen works well with Homeopathy?
Chris Fletcher 0:44 AEST, November 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris Fletcher (talk • contribs) 13:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
