Talk:Bound for Glory (2005)

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Contents 1 Timing 2 Requested moves 2.1 Survey 3 About the Requested Moves issue

[edit] Timing

As I did first with TNA Slammiversary 2005, I took the time to go through the DVD and get accurate timings for all match decisions, using the DVD player's timer (I use Cyberlink PowerDVD 7.0). The following is a running diagram. The preshow match is based on the timing for the Preshow feature title. The others are based on the timing for the DVD's main title. Matches are timed from the opening bell to the final bell. Multiple-fall matches have mid-term falls counted at the strike of three.

ALL ON ONE DVD TITLE

0:03.02 X-Division 4-way: Shelley vs. Strong vs. Aries vs. Dutt 0:15.35 Sonjay Dutt wins (pinning Roderick Strong, Dragon Rana, 12.33)

0:34.58 Samoa Joe vs. Jushin Thunder Liger 0:42.15 Samoa Joe wins (submission, Coquina Clutch, 7.17)

0:47.10 Six-Man Tag: The Diamonds in the Rough vs. Apolo, Sonny Siaki and Shark Boy 0:54.17 The Diamonds in the Rough win (David Young pinning Sonny Siaki, Spinebuster, 7.07)

1:02.32 Lance Hoyt vs. "The Alpha Male" Monty Brown 1:09.05 Monty Brown wins (pinfall, Pounce, 6.33)

1:14.33 Six-Man Tag: Team Canada (A-1, Bobby Roode and Eric Young) vs. 3Live Kru 1:20.33 Team Canada wins (Eric Young pinning B.G. James, hockey stick shot, 6.00)

1:26.34 Ultimate X8: Petey Williams vs. Matt Bentley vs. Chris Sabin 1:40.12 Petey Williams wins (13.38)

1:45.44 NWA Tag Titles: AMW (Harris and Storm) (c) vs. The Naturals (Stevens and Douglas) 1:56.23 AMW wins (Harris pinning Stevens, Death Sentence, 10.39)

2:04.58 Monster's Ball: Rhino vs. Abyss vs. Sabu vs. Jeff Hardy 2:16.45 Rhino wins (pinning Jeff Hardy, Super Rhino Driver, 11.47)

2:23.06 Iron Man for the X Title: Christopher Daniels vs. A.J. Styles (c) 2:53.04 A.J. Styles pins (Styles Clash, 29.58)

2:58.37 Ten-Man Gauntlet for the Gold 3:12.57 Rhino wins (14.20)

3:15.44 Rhino vs. Jeff Jarrett (w/Gail Kim) (c) (Tito Ortiz, special guest referee) (no opening bell, Jarrett's attack began at time given) 3:21.28 Rhino wins (pinfall, gore, 6.44)

[edit] Requested moves

[edit] About the Requested Moves issue

I think that this is the right decision. I support that the WWE Big Four PPV's were without the WWE prefix, and the other WWE PPV's have the WWE/F prefix. Also, I support putting the initial of the promotions as a prefix before the name of a PPV or event. Not only TNA, or ROH, or any promotion in the world. The move made with the TNA Lockdown and TNA Bound for Glory were totally arbitrary. The best decision was made in this issue. Xbox6 00:53, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

How about a reason WHY you support the big 4 not having a prefix? No one has given a reason for that yet. Mshake3 01:08, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

There's no disambig for WrestleMania, SummerSlam, Survivor Series, or Royal Rumble. That's why there's no prefix for it.
As for the three mayor TNA pay-per-views, well... first of all, there's no disambig for Slammiversary, so you don't have to worry about that. For BFG, there are many terms "Bound for Glory" to disambiguate. For a new person looking at Wikipedia, they might be confused with the term "Bound for Glory (2007)" alone; they might take it as something related to the band, the book, or the film (possibly a film remake (released in 2007, not that there's going to be one), in which it would be redirected from "Bound for Glory (2007)" or something). "TNA" as the prefix will set set up the basis of the article (see WWE New Year's Revolution; there no disambig for it, but there's a WWE prefix in it anyways). Same reason for Lockdown (although there's not really a disambig for it, the status remains the same). Anyways, now that the issues done, can you stop beating the dead horse? MITB LS 02:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your opinion. But I wasn't asking for it. Xbox6 appears to say that ALL PPV articles, save for WWEs major events, should have it. I want that opinion on those comments. Mshake3 02:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Might I add that film remakes generally use a "(year) film" text at the end of the article title. Mshake3 02:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but think about the redirects. See Dawn of the Dead (2004), which redirects to Dawn of the Dead (2004 film). Anyway, this issue is done. END OF STORY. MITB LS 03:58, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Easy there buddy. Wouldn't want you to blow a gasket or whatever. I'd still like a clarificaration on Xbox's comments. Because he doesn't agree with the current setup for Slammiversary. Besides, taking about a dead horse, didn't you make the formal move request? And it's not like this thing got many votes. It closed due to No Consus, and I wanted a clarification on an opinion. Now if that's beating a dead horse, well then we've all killed many over the years. Peace! Mshake3 15:01, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay. First of all, I do agree with you that Xbox shouldn't have moved it. That's a given, as there's no disambig for the term "Slammiversary". As for my nomination, I had to do so to try to reach a consensus (I was neutral). If you don't feel that it wasn't fair, you can put in another request to move the page (and reach a clear consensus). MITB LS 15:21, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

...at least try to. MITB LS 02:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Why? Mshake3 03:46, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

If you want to change it back to the old, file another request to move the pages (see WP:RM). You can set it up and try to each a clear consensus. MITB LS 15:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Eh, I'm find with the current setup, as long as Slammiversary stays as is. Mshake3 15:59, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Then ALRIGHT! MITB LS 00:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)