Talk:Boston Red Sox/2007 Archive

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[edit] GA Failed

I failed this because of no refs, long history section, cleanup tag since august, fair use issues, etc, this article has so many problems. Jaranda wat's sup 19:27, 6 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] New York Times Company

Why is there no mention in this article that The New York Times Company, which owns The Boston Globe as well as obviously The New York Times is an owner of the team? It seems pretty relevant to me that the biggest home town newspaper of the team as well as the biggest home town news paper of the team's biggest rival are owned by the same company that owns the team. — Linnwood 08:12, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] what happened

What happened, all the information is gone

[edit] Request for Protection

I put in a requrest to have this page semi-protected, but it was denied.
However, I have to respectfully disagree with this decision. If you look at the history for this page, nearly every single change of the last 250+ edits is either vandalism or a revision. Does anyone else think this is a little ridiculous? Zomic_13 17:19, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

The article is now semi-protected. Thank you. Zomic_13 17:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] sprotected vs. sprotected2

I reverted the change to sprotected2 back to sprotected. Due to the nature of the topic it may attract new anon editors (and it looks like there are some decent anon edits amongst the vandalism) and I think we need to keep the protected nature of the page very apparent even at the price of aesthetics. Ripe 01:28, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request

{{editprotect}} Could someone add the little box to this article that I've added to all the other baseball articles: It should look like this:

{{current sport-related|mini=1|2007 Boston Red Sox season}}

An example of how I did this elsewhere: [1] 64.178.96.168 18:55, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Done. - Dudesleeper · Talk 19:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Maybe you could get the one at 64.178.96.168 19:05, 29 April 2007 (UTC)to rap up this article the red sox are the worst team in history they suck bad and never be a red sox fan

The editing suggested just below was done on May 15, 2007. Previously, I saw this:

On October 2, 1972, they also lost the second to last game of the year to the Tigers, 3-1, when Luis Aparicio fell rounding third after Yastremski hit a triple in the third inning, Aparicio tried to scamper back to third but this created an out as Yastremski was already on third.}}

I changed it to this (changes explained just after the suggested new rendering):}}

On October 2, 1972, they also lost the second to last game of the year to the Tigers, 4-1, when Luis Aparicio fell rounding third after Yastremski hit an apparent triple in the third inning; Aparicio tried to scamper back to third but this created an out as Yastremski was already on third.}}

CHANGES (I checked Retrosheet site regarding the game): Score was 4-1, not 3-1; I changed "a triple" to "an apparent triple" because Yastrzemski ended up being credited with only a double; comma just after "third inning" changed to semicolon.

SUGGESTION: I suggest a clarification - stating the Red Sox lead in 2007 in road attendance is misleading because of the large number of games the Yankees and Red Sox play against each other. Invariably sell-outs, the smaller capacity of Fenway works to lower the Yankees' average road numbers while the larger capacity of Yankee stadium inflates the Red Sox' road numbers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.204.130.88 (talk) 20:03, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Page Protect Request

I just requested that this page be semi-protected again,as IP vandalism has started to pick up since the old protection expired. Black Harry (T|C) 15:12, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

WP:EL allows Blogs written by knowledgeable sources, so the ones written by local media members should stay, the others should be gone. Black Harry (T|C) 19:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Coach succession boxes

If anyone is interested I've added succession boxes to Brad Mills, John Farrell (baseball, and Dave Magadan's oages, as well as their past few predecesors. If anyone wants to make these go back further, it would be great.Hoponpop69 04:31, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New article

I created the 2004 Boston Red Sox season article, but I need some help because writing isn't my strong point. I hope to make this article a GA or FA some day, and I would like the article to get in a good start. -- JohnnyAlbert10 21:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking maybe copy-paste the text in the "2004: World Champions" section of this article and put it in the 2004 Boston Red Sox season article. And in the "2004: World Champions" section of this article, write a brief summary of the season. -- JA10Talk • Contribs 18:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nickname

The Red Sox are also known as the Carmine Hose 216.15.115.41 22:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC)MF

OK. But we need a WP:RS to show the readers/editors that what you're saying is true. But if you throw it in the article without a citation, we will call it original research. -- JA10 Talk • Contribs 03:55, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changing 'Boston Pilgrims' to 'Boston Americans' on yearly season pages

For your consideration and debate, I am putting forth the following suggestion:

For the yearly season pages for the 'Boston Pilgrims' (1903 Boston Pilgrims season, 1904 Boston Pilgrims season, 1905 Boston Pilgrims season, and 1906 Boston Pilgrims season).... I am suggesting to change 'Boston Pilgrims' to 'Boston Americans' to make them consistent, not only in the article body but more specifically in the article TITLE as well.

Arguments:
1) The term 'Boston Pilgrims' is not used in the standings. In fact, on those same yearly season pages, 'Boston Americans' is used as the designation in the league standings chart. This change would make the naming convention consistent.

2) On the Wikipedia page for the Boston Red Sox, it lists the team name from 1901-1907 as the 'Boston Americans'.

3) The term 'Boston Americans' is used on other reference websites, such as Baseball-reference.com/1903ws and baseball-almanac/1903ws

4) Significant research was done by Bill Nowlin*, debunking the myth about the use of 'Pilgrims' as official nickname. This article also references the fact that various companies and websites have begun to update this information, including STATS Inc, The Pittsburgh Pirates, and the above referenced Baseball Reference.com and Baseball Almanac. Here is a version of the article: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/articles/boston_pilgrims_story.shtml

NOTE: If it remains consensus to leave the name as is (Boston Pilgrims), then I propose we change the name from 'Boston Americans' to the 'Boston Pilgrims' for consistency in the following locations 1) the standings on various pages, including those referenced above, 2) on the main Boston Red Sox page where it discusses their team name from 1901-1907 (right box, others), 3) on the list of World Series results... as all of these places say Boston Americans.

Thank you for listening. Please provide input, opinion or your vote. Entirelybs 15:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Pats Sox Princess
this like here seems to think they were called Boston Pilgrims, so does this one. The Official MLB site calls them Pilgrams.--Borgardetalk 11:13, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Apparel profit

"The Red Sox are also one of the most profitable teams in sports due to the high apparel sales generated by the team" - All profits from apparel sales are distributed evenly to all 30 teams, so this is not true and should be removed.Kgppra17 11:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Huntington Avenue Grounds.jpg

Image:Huntington Avenue Grounds.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot 00:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

At the image page it points out that the Grounds were last used in 1911, implying that the photo is too old to still be in copyright (ie, it's public domain now). Huw Powell 21:33, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
On the 27th, I changed the licensing on that photo to indicate pre-1923, and I think that has pretty well settled the issue. It says "ballparks.com" on it, but they put that stamp on every one of the photos on their site. It amounts to a free advertisement. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 21:51, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blatant Error

This article makes statements that are simply wrong. First, it states that Grady Little was not fired as manager in 2003. He was. Merely because the act of firing is because a contract is not renewed makes it no less a firing. The weasel-words "not renewed" ought to be left to press releases. He had the job. He wanted to keep the job. The club involuntarily terminated his services. He was fired. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.57.107 (talk) 06:39, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

He wasn't fired. The team simply let his contract expire. Sasha Callahan 06:45, 29 September 2007 (UTC)