Talk:Boston (band)

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To-do list for Boston (band): edit · history · watch · refresh
  • References, references, references.
  • Get an article for every bandmember, present and past. By "article", that is "not a stub".
  • We need pictures, preferably released under GFDL, CCSA, or into PD. Fair use images will do.
  • Expand the History section.
  • Explain their music a bit more.
  • Expand upon (and tidy up) articles on individual singles and albums.
  • The immediate goal is to expand this into a good article. We can talk about featured once it starts to shape up. References are our current #1 target.

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[edit] Brad Delp's Death

Need to add details of Brad Delp's passing as they come available.

Need to find out future plans of Boston after the untimely death of Brad Delp. Boston is now lead singer less and given how integral Brad is to the Boston sound, it will be almost impossible to find a lead singer that fits the Boston sound.

I erased that tag above the article, because there is already information later on in the proper place of the article. (On a personal note, this saddens me, becuase Brad Delp was one of the best voices in music) Splent 01:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changes

Should "than" in "More than a Feeling" be capitalized, per title case? Mkilly 01:28, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yes, Atleast i think so. I Have every Boston CD. And Than Is Capitalized On The Debut CD And the Greatest Hits One. User:Tony Garcia 07:48 7 January 2005

Meteors rise? tilde 00:00, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Expansion

I put a request for this page to be edited and expanded, as it is not that well formatted and Boston's album Boston is #11 on the List of best-selling albums in the United States (it went 17 times Platinum) ~~Omnimmotus

Boston's debut album isn't the best selling debut album of all time. Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill is. This is true, Boston was also passed by Whitney Houston's debut album in 1988 I believe.

Jagged Little Pill is her third album In Flames 17:19, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

  • the RIAA currently lists Jagged Little Pill at 16x platinum, and Whitney Houston's debut is 13x platinum. But neither Morrissette nor Hootie & The Blowfish can ever be eligible for "best selling debut" status, since they had both released small-label albums prior to their major-label debuts. ScottSwan 08:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

In the article for the debut album Tom Scholz is credited with keyboards. The quality of the keyboard work is certainly good enough to deserve a mention on this page. --Art Raymond 12:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

What do you do if an you think entry has been copied word for word from an article.The entry about Barry Gourdeau solo album that keep being filed that mentions that Tom Scholz asked Epic to pull the album looks like a word for word copy of an article I read called "Boston though Time". In fact the whole original entry seems to have been copied from this article.My fellow Boston fans and myself have manage to fix the problem,but that one entry keeps being refiled.Boston fan

I reorganized the article a bit, and separated the info to reflect the major events in the history of the band. I'm having trouble finding info on Fran Sheenan, anybody have info on what happened to him after Boston? I know he's been doing single gigs here and there but aside from that I haven't found anything. Eatabullet 14:25, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Fran Sheehan injured his hand in a car crash and is no longer able to play bass.That's all I know.

Fran is retired, plays occasionally with friends/ sits in at events... Lives in Northern VT, Swamscott, MA and Florida. He's well.

[edit] disambiguation?

Should Boston have a disambiguation page?Badmuthahubbard 09:18, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

It does have at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_%28disambiguation%29 but it isn't linked properly. 83.104.249.240 15:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sheehan or Sheenan?

In the main article and in the discussion above both spellings are used. Only one can be correct! 83.104.249.240 15:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

The proper spelling is Sheehan. We need more information on the Cosmos too!!!

The Cosmos??? They're pretty much a non-notable afterthought in the Boston story. 156.34.218.16 19:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

An AFTERTHOUGHT??? Anthony Cosmo wrote 3 songs on Corporate America and Fran Cosmo was in Boston for 16 years! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmaguitar (talk • contribs) 16:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I've changed the two occurrences of 'Sheenan' to 'Sheehan' in the main article. 83.104.249.240 02:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bandmembers

I've deleted the musicians who were never official members of the band and cleaned up some of the membership dates. ScottSwan 08:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Reading between the lines of an open letter Tom Scholz sent to Mike Huckabee after two former band members appeared with Huckabee on the campaign trail, I see that there is a lot of conflict over who is or is not really a member of the band. Scholz, who evidently owns the trademark to the name (which he capitalized in the letter) BOSTON, feels that certain members of the old touring band are not stakeholders in the band as it exists today — and he also implies that their contributions to the old records were minimal. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 01:16, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

For what it's worth, Barry Goudreau has a personal bio on his own website BerryGoudreau.com, where he claims that he started the band, not Tom Scholz. (Goudreau speaks graciously about Scholz, however.) And Goudreau also says (much less controversially) that he played in various projects with everyone else in the classic version of the band (other than Scholz) both before and after those years. I suppose part of the dispute is whether the band Scholz joined in the mid 1970s is really "BOSTON" or not. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 16:42, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Brad Delp

Brad Delp was a great guy, and it is very depressing to me that he died. But, put a link to Brad Delp's page to explain the details of the suicide. The section about his death is too long here. --71.224.19.29 15:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, move that section to the Brad Delp page. MH 07:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Final Concert

so is there, or is there not going to be a final Boston concert, if so when and where...

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Boston1317.jpg

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[edit] Gets kind of fannish.

The sections "Tribute to Brad Delp" and "Innovatons and Styles" seem like they could have come from a fan site. There are definitely matters of opinion being stated as fact, and there seems to be a bit of fancruft, as well. --63.25.16.176 (talk) 19:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Under "Live performances" it says Boston developed a "startling ability" to match their studio quality during live play.

Some minor hit was "mysteriously omitted" from the greatest hits album. Was it mysteriously omitted, or just omitted, or might we just omit the mention of the mysterious omission?

Was the third album "finally released" in 1986, or was it simply "released?"

"Scholz and Brian May are well regarded for the development of complex, multi-tracked guitar harmonies." By whom? Citations are also needed in several places. Tiffany78 (talk) 02:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


I don't know if this belongs here,but I think I should give you a heads up.There's been a development in the band Boston that could result in some problems here as well the Brad Delp and Tom Scholz articles.I just thought you should know.BF84

[edit] Live Performances section deleted

Someone will probably put it back in, but I think it needs to be taken out (or extensively reworked.) It was unreferenced and had a rather non-neutral point of view. Boston's early performances were "widely disparaged"... disparaged by who? It is definitely fair to say that critics did find that the original band's performances weren't quite as intricately layered as the studio recordings. But, really someone should track down some cites for 1970s reviews before saying that the band was "widely disparaged" as a a live act. It is also fair to say that Scholz never produced a live Boston album. The stuff about the 21st century version of the band being so much better live seemed to be mere pro-Scholz puffery, designed to (there's that word again!) disparage his ex-bandmates. For whatever it's worth, there are live bootlegs available (e.g., on YouTube) of the original band, and the band sounds pretty good, actually. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 04:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Scholz could certainly have a slightly more positive rationale (other than disparaging his ex-bandmates) for talking down the old band's live skills. He is trying to market a live tour by a version of the band which has no original members aside from himself... although Gary Pihl does go back pretty far. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 23:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The story about how the first album was recorded

Is the legend about Scholz sending his (ostensibly, vastly less talented than Scholz himself) associates into the studio to noodle around and waste the label's money while Scholz worked secretly at home really true? It sounds a little Too Good to Be Truem somehow. Are there any objective sources for this, or this just a myth which the various parties have embellished over the years? Timothy Horrigan (talk) 23:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes this story is true, as confirmed by Scholz himself. Go here --THE FOUNDERS INTENT TALK 23:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Citations & References

See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 08:51, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Long time publicist for Boston

This fellow swooped in this morning to make corrections leaving a note identifying himself as such. How do we know this is true? He comes in under an IP address, it could be anybody. I'm not sure how to handle something like this. If this man is for real his edits are likely true assuming good faith. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT TALK 13:21, 6 June 2008 (UTC)