Talk:Borscht Belt

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Another important reason for the decline of the Borscht Belt is found in increasing Jewish assimilation. No one can now openly and legally discriminate against Jews in the U.S., as was done very frequently in the past, and also there are far fewer Gentiles who are closed-minded enough to resent or openly object to sharing facilities such as hotels, restaurants, and pools, for example, with Jews. As Jews are welcome in mainstream establishments to a degree unthinkable a couple of generations ago, the demand for Jewish-oriented resorts has consequently declined. This has as much to do with the decline of the Borscht Belt as probably any other single factor, except mabye the ease of travel to Florida compared with two generations ago. Shouldn't this be addressed in the article as well? Rlquall 22:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Probably so, if you can find something to cite. For claims of causality, citation and attribution is particularly important. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:48, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

Is the Borscht Belt really in "upstate" New York? It appears to be in the southern part of the state, which is not traditionally thought of as "upstate" (except to those who live in NYC proper). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.187.10.252 (talk • contribs) 1 July 2006.

Well, I'm a Long Islander, so Upstate begins in the Bronx. More seriously, I'd use the term for anything past Westchester and Rockland Counties. Our article has a map that seems to say the same. - Jmabel | Talk 20:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Why does the article single out Ashkenazi Jews? Is this verifiable?

Certainly. But it's also obvious: the Borscht Belt originally centered on Yiddish-language entertainment. To say that the audience were Ashkenazi Jews is like saying that the audience for a Polish-language standup comedian is mostly Polish. In fact, I'd be hard pressed to name a Borscht Belt comedian of any note who was not an Ashkenazi. - Jmabel | Talk 00:44, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Names of the places

Well the Raleigh just closed. The Pines closed a few years back. I'm going to Kutchers the week after next. Anyone know what happened to the Granit? Are there any others left?

These places are not closing because of assimilation, their problem is that they are all huge buildings with vast running costs delapidated past repair catering to a clientelle that is now used to staying in Mariotts and Sheratons. --Gorgonzilla 01:38, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't expect Kutchers to last more than a couple of years. It is't cheap but the level of service is low. Mouldy carpets, bad food, roof leaks, overflowing toilets. --Gorgonzilla 23:14, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Link goes to wrong Joey Adams

The link for Joey Adams gets redirected to Joey Lauren Adams, a talented actress born in 1968. I do not think she is the Borscht Belt comedian who wrote the book Borscht Belt in 1973. Did the redirect from Joey Adams to Joey Lauren Adams wipe out a previous article on the older Joey Adams? Or, was there never a Wikipedia article on the Borscht Belt comedian Joey Adams? r3 21:57, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Looks like this has been cleaned up to a stub. - Jmabel | Talk 01:07, 23 January 2007 (UTC)