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  • Cleanup: Get rid of the lists! In their place, perhaps leave a clean, concise section titled something like "Borat's Kazakhstan"
  • Expand: Add a proper character history section explaining origin, development, maybe even a bit about the changing name.
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[edit] This page is very naice

perhaps open a recognisable quote section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coheed56 (talk • contribs) 09:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Origins of Borat

I have edited the 2nd paragraph to cover the development of the early Borat and to include the relevant channels/dates as per entries made back in July 2006 (They seem to have been slowly edited away). Junius 11:48, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 'War of Terrorism'

Somebody please remove the link of Borat's quotation on 'war of terrorism' to 'War on Terrorism'. It's clearly a pun and criticizes/ridicules US politics! A strong political point is made there and the exact opposite is intended. Please don't ruin the joke. Many thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.76.20.243 (talk) 00:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

oh, who really cares, anyway?

Samanthamozes (talk) 23:31, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Correction of "Kazakhstanis" to "Kazakhs"

Dear admins,

With all respect to your work, I'd like to inform you that you have mentioned my nationals as "Kazakhstanis", which is inappropriate in our case as it is not "Pakistanis" or "Hindies", which would be correct for them. The correct form if you would like to mention the name of the national is Kazakh (singular) or Kazakhs (plural) as per Collins English Dictionary. Hope you will rectify as soon as possible. My e-mail is mazhitismailov@mail.ru for any clarifications.

Best regards, Mazhit Ismailov.

Hindies? You mean Hindus? Nil Einne 08:39, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
The correct term is "Kazakhstanian", as "Kazakh" is an ethnic group. Borat is not Kazakh, but Kazakhstanian. Dave420 17:59, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Actually, "Kazakhstani" is the most accurate, as it refers to all inhabitants of Kazakhstan, whereas "Kazakh" refers to the ethnic group (they can be from any country). Specifically, in Borat's case, since "Kazakhstani" is the translated Russian word (see Kazakhstan#Kazakhs and Kazakhstanis (terminology)). It's also used when referring to things of or from Kazakhstan like the "Kazakhstani government" or "Kazakhstani culture", however, "Kazakh" is more commonly used in these cases. It's a pretty established term[1][2][3], so I'm not sure what the issue is. I'm changing it back, hopefully without conflict. I made it redirect to Kazakhs, so it still points to the same article, but it's a little more accurate. Rocket000 20:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Now it says Kazak, which is a disambig. page. This would make sense if the editor meant the journal Qazaq, but I don't think Borat was a journalist of this as it stopped production in 1918. Changing it back again.. Rocket000 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 10:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality of Viewpoint Disputed

This Wikipedia article is a thinly written press release with a strong positive spin on the movie/actor.

Surely we can do better than that.

Actually, to be honest, I believe that this article has a stronger negative spin on the movie/actor. I mean, if the guy got someone fired, he should at least help that person out of debt. Anyways, the criticsm's section is huge and the purpose of the film is not explored. I quote, "The film follows Borat in his travels across the United States, as he commits cultural solecisms and exposes a few American ones." However, as the article goes into much detail about Borat's cultural solecisms, it does nothing to explore America's. If you look past the comedy, the film goes far in exposing racism, sexism, and homophobia throughout America, at the expense of the character's own, very exaggerated racism, sexism, and homophobia. This article states next to nothing of the character's social and cultural accomplishment yet goes on to be critical of him. Also, it might make sense to reorganize the criticism section, structuring it around the different tactics used by the actor. Something like: Criticism of the representation of Kazakh culture, Criticism of public appearances in character, and so on.--24.61.183.36 07:17, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

A lot of what you're looking for in this article would be deemed as original research which isn't allowed on Wikipedia, so we'd need to get some reliable sources analyzing the movie and the purpose behind it in order to include that in the article. Yonatan talk 08:51, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Why was the Korki Bucheck page grafted onto this one? Korki was not played by Cohen, and doesn't really fit in with the rest of the article.

[edit] Korki Bucheck

Why was the Korki Bucheck page grafted onto this one? Korki was not played by Cohen, and doesn't really fit in with the rest of the article —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.14.12.26 (talk)

[edit] Borat

Sleeve of Wizard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.74.30.234 (talk) 09:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

When you install Apache their default welcome page says "Great success!" at the top. Everyone loves Borat! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.129.239.143 (talk) 04:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] just one question

Only today I watched the movie till the end. I dont get one thing in the end in front of Kazakh flag, there is Azerbaijanin president??? Or who is he at all? he looks Like Ilham Aliyev. I dont get what it is? does anyone know who is he? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.255.247.83 (talk) 22:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neil Hamilton?

Why does it say First appearance: "Neil Hamilton" under his picture? -R. fiend (talk) 16:09, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Borat is part of WikiProject Judaism

What? Does Borat have any relations with judaism?

The actor who portrays him, Sacha baron Cohen, is Jewish. IMO this should not be part of that wikiproject either. I think it should be changed and Sacha Baron Cohen added to the wikiproject Judiasm. Any other opinions?

I agree!--86.29.241.84 (talk) 20:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kazakhstan

Realy his jokes are more about russians;) I don't know about kazakhs blame all problems is becouse of jews, he don't act like kazakh. Actualy Borat mowie was banned in Rusia not in Kazakhstan. There was one interesting article, that Kazakhstan actualy made profit and atracted some tourists becouse of Borat. For example, many Borat sites below have links (this isn't real Kazakhstan, here is real Kazakhstan) to Kazakhstan tourism sites or sites about real Kazakhstan.

Borat te character, is strongly anti-Jewish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.186.68.42 (talk) 05:52, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of Boratisms

Does anyone one know what happened to the list and where I can get a copy? QueenAdelaide (talk) 04:30, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

If it was on here at any time, it's in the page history. (: Octane [improve me] 27.12.07 0747 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.51.113.204 (talk)

[edit] Dead

He is dead, does anyone know the date of his death? Helpsloose 03:03, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

An article on the death of Borat is here [4]. This is a sad day. QueenAdelaide (talk) 12:05, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm sad that Ali G is gone. For Borat, I'm just relieved. - Soulkeeper (talk) 14:47, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Editors can use this article for data-mining. Ekantik talk 02:19, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removing vandalism

I removed this vandalism that seemed to have been residing in the article for some time: -Bonus Onus (talk) 03:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Yep, that got by us. Stayed in for three+ hours. It deleted some text which I just restored. [5] SaltyBoatr (talk) 06:20, 18 January 2008 (UTC)