Talk:Bonnie and Clyde (film)

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I think the discussion of the discrepency between the movie and reality (especially talk of the real Bonnie and Clyde as "ruthless killers" and Frank Hamer as "brave and just") should be removed... or moved to the page about the _real_ Bonnie and Clyde. It should be replaced with more attention to the effect this film had on American cinema and its positioning within the American "counter-culture" movement of the 1960's



So: Is this one any good? ---> http://dvd.ciao.co.uk/Bonnie_and_Clyde__Review_5473761

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[edit] R rated

i heard this was the first movie the mpaa gave an R rating should we mention this in the article

Actually, the movie was given an M rating for it's re-release. At the time, violence and male rear nudity was more acceptable to show to children. Blooshoe 15:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed the biased description of historical figures; made short new "differences" section

Would be nice if somebody could expand the cinematic history of the film.

  • Indeed. The fact the landmark ambush scene isn't even mentioned is a puzzling omission. 68.146.41.232 (talk) 20:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed the line mentioning that this movie was parodied by Mad Magazine

- this is already mentioned in the "Bonnie and Clyde" (non-monvie) article - mentioning this in the opening paragraphs of this movie page is as rediculous as going to the Wikipedia pages of every movie that has been parodied by Saturday Night Live, and writing that such was done in the opening paragraphs of the respective movie Wikipedia pages. - if anything, there should be a "Pop Culture" section that would mention this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.68.48.117 (talk) 09:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The music that was not included in the film

[edit] HGB

Was the fantastic score by gifted young composer Charles Strouse. He understood and musically portrayed the many different aspects of Bonnie and Clyde; from love and tenderness, through joy and excitement to horror, panic, escape - and death. The score was utterly dramatic and in the great tradition of composers like Leonard Rosenman and Bernard Herrmann. While it is fortunate that the silence in many of the scenes in Bonnie and Clyde allowed to contrast against the sounds of gunfire or other loud noises, or give the better (last third) of the film a dreamy, hazy tone, it is likely that the original score would have taken away some of the hillbilly image - that really didn't have anything to do with the story or with Bonnie and Clyde; it is highly unlikely that the real life Bonnie and especially not Clyde would have thought much of "Foggy Mountain Breakdown" - it would have rendered the movie a musical background that might have done for the film what Leonard Rosenmans music did for "Rebel Without A Cause" or "East of Eden". Simply a great achivement. It should be noted that Strouse did an alternative version of "Foggy Mountain Breakdown" that is much more suitable than the one used in the film; it is powerful, suggests drama and eroticism as well as violence. And would have suited the notion one critic had: "(the film)leaves us with a tragic awareness of the terrible things people do to each other". --Hans G Brüggener