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[edit] Changes by Doctorow
I've made two changes:
1. Reverted to trim out the snotty stuff about the Bush administration, which comes from a hyperbolic email exchange in which someone wrote to me to tell me off for criticising Bush on BB. A cursory glance at BB or any of our archives will make it abundantly clear that the Boing Boing's primary occupation has little to do with the Bush administration or US politics in general. There's an order of magnitude more material about, for example, the possibility that sasquatches are real, than there is about US politics. NPOV suggests that the article should be concerned with accurately reflecting the subject matter, not pursuing an email flamewar after you've ended up in your opponent's killfile.
2. Cut "substantial" which does not represent NPOV. Substantial compared to what? If someone wants to criticise the amount of advertising on BB, then create an entry about blog advertising that contains metrics for advertising based on surveys or research, then link BB into it. Impressionistic terms like "substantial" have no business here.
Cory Doctorow
0600h GMT, December 3, 2005 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doctorow (talk • contribs)
[edit] "Response" section
I have moved this here for discussion:
- While Boingboing.net is a very popular and influential site, it has also attracted a somewhat mixed response from the online community, with some attacking the site for what they see as its smugness and insularity. The site has been frequently parodied, and individual contributors have been parodied as well. The blog xenisucks.com, for instance, began as a parody allegedly written by Xeni Jardin herself before abandoning this angle and becoming an ongoing series of posts openly attacking her personality and latest doings.
Lots of weasel words and unsourced statements here. Further, it is a variant of the "Criticism" debate from May 2006 on Xeni Jardin and Cory Doctorow. This needs to follow the consensus guidelines established for that article. Jokestress 15:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, I hadn't known about the whole controversy. I was trying to write about the controversy without taking any obvious side, but it seems I may have been too vague. Unfortunately I'm not really sure how to be more specific without bringing in a lot of links, which might give this topic more attention than it deserves. Multiverse 23:49, 17 June 2006 (UTC)Multiverse
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- No problem. As I mentioned on your talk page, it's a complex issue. The article can have something like this:
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- In addition to professional accolades, Boing Boing readers have expressed a range of responses about the site. Published source one says "___" (footnote). Published source two says "___" (footnote).
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- There has been a lot of discussion about what constitutes a notable and reliable source in this case. Most blogs are not notable enough, but if a blog or site has been quoted in a reliable published source, whatever was said in the published source is acceptable. And don't worry about adding citations. Articles like this need them so others can confirm the information is reliable and verifiable. If you have questions about a source or comment you'd like to add, just put it below, and we can all discuss it. Jokestress 00:02, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Flying Spaghetti Monster
Why is there a link to the F.S.M. from the BoingBoing page? Admittedly the FSM and Pastafarian movement has been featured on BoingBoing, but they talk more about the Pirates Of The Carribean ride than they ever did about FSM. So why the link? - IanM. July 09, 2006.
- Agreed, I was just coming in to ask that myself. Unless they had a big hand in inventing it, I don't see the need for the link, so in accordance with the "Be Bold" policy, I'm going to remove it. Kat, Queen of Typos 12:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sean Bonner
I'm not associated with BoingBoing in anyway. So what if they write about me from time to time or post submissions I send in, I'm an active reader of the site. Are people who are actually familiar with the site not allowed to edit it? Sean Bonner 01:38, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- You are allowed to edit this article. I removed the tag with the strange implication that you shouldn't be. Jokestress 02:13, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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- So is Doctorow. But, it seemed like people should know where his interests lay. A google search (site:boingboing.net "Sean Bonner") shows Sean 213 times. John Batelle the 'band manager' only shows up 3 times. Dstanfor 04:24, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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- To be fair, it's Battelle (two T's)- it generates 163 hits. But your point stands. Bonner is often referred to as friend (http://www.boingboing.net/2004/10/29/sean_bonners_dispatc.html), buddy (http://www.boingboing.net/2005/05/01/xeni_get_your_gun.html), "Boing Boing pal" (http://www.boingboing.net/2003/08/13/sony_ericsson_t616_r.html), etc. He (and Doctorow, like you say) is allowed to edit the page, but he has a clear personal relationship to Boing Boing's editors and--to the extent that they promote the gallery he owns--a financial interest in the traffic they drive to his site. 68.40.181.69 04:43, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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- my mistake on the spelling error. Dstanfor 06:13, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Superdickery
Anyone reading this page might be interested in knowing that Superdickery is up for deletion. It's been mentioned on Boing Boing twice.[1] [2] samwaltz 19:51, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- Discussion is closed. The article is being kept. samwaltz 14:31, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] boingboingboing
just wondering if we could get a mention about the boing boing boing podcast that boing boing does??
will —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.167.112.17 (talk) 12:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Worldchanging Interview
The worldchanging external link has essentially nothing to do with Boing Boing. I personally tend to find Cory Doctorow ridiculous, so I am going to forgo editing the article, but somebody might want to go ahead and move the link somewhere more appropriate. Maxerickson (talk) 01:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)