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[edit] Help Me

Have just joined WikiProject:Wine on 25 April 2007.

I live in Spain (Madrid) and make organic wine. I have a small vineyard in the village of Carabaña (in the Tajuña Valley, abour 50 km from Madrid) with both white (Airén) and red (Tempranillo).

I'm keen to contribute to the Wiki Wine Project but not really sure how to go about it. If anyone reads this, perhaps you could take a little time to set me on the right path :)

My mother tongue is English and I also speak Spanish and Italian, so I could help by translating articles. I could also contribute original content based on my experience of organic viticulture, organic winemaking, and perhaps other general wine info on Spanish wines etc.

I'll continue browsing for a while (before daring to contribute) to learn how everything works, etc. Any help from experienced hands out there would be appreciated though :)

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You may want to look at es:Wikipedia as well. Again, welcome! Real96 10:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Wikiproject wine. Real96 10:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Sure, see the five pillars in your introduction. But, in my own opinion, the most important rules are: notability, attribution, no original research, cite your sources, don't disrupt Wikipedia to make a point, along with the occasional tone of civilty that users need to have. Real96 11:02, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I posted information about the wine project on your page. Just follow the links and they should give you instructions on how to sign up for the project. Also, if you have any technical needs, go here. Also, have you ever thought of being adopted? Real96 11:10, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] adoptoffer

Hi - I've just posted an offer of adoption on your user page and replied to your message on my xitxat page. See you there! mikaultalk 16:10, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:Wine Welcome

Thanks for joining the The Wine Project. Please see the project page for general instructions and announcements, including details of our latest projects. Also, be sure to visit the Wine Portal. Again, welcome.--Charleenmerced Talk 17:32, 26 April 2007


[edit] Wine articles

Hello and welcome to the wine project. There is so much to do in the wine project. I recommend that you start with an article that interests you. We also have a WID (Wine Improvement Drive) every 2 weeks or so. Our current WID article is Bordeaux wine and related Bordeaux region articles. Also, there is the Operation Stub-Killer. Look for any stub articles that are very important and should be a bigger article or one that you consider important and improve it. Wehn you do you can change the Class form Stub to Start or better depending on the state of the article. You can also check the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wine/Tasks to see what needs to be done. If you find an article in Spanish Wikipedia that you think is very good. Translate it into English. We need a bit of help in Rioja (wine) (for the Hisotry section). Check the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wine to see who needs help with what. You should also check the archives for more info: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wine/Archive 1, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wine/Archive 2, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wine/Archive 3, and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wine/Archive 4. I take care of the Portal:Wine and would love suggestions for articles or photos, DYK and quotes. Finally, check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Wine/Newsletter, it is great, fun and very informative! Please let me know if you have any questions. Also, I changed you Userpage for some grammar things (my mother's tongue...). Sorry, I am a grammar nut!--Charleenmerced Talk 17:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

By the way, we need pictures for many wine articles. So, if you have the ability to take pictures, please do so! Also, I have been looking for a picture of White Tempranillo that does not have copyright restrictions.--Charleenmerced Talk 18:01, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Hi Fabio, just a note for fufture ref: I'm pretty sure Charleeen's edit on your user page wasn't WP:Vandalism; it's a term reserved for malicious editing and outright destruction of wiki articles (see the link). Charleen has really good English but it's not her first language and idioms like "mother tongue" aren't immediately obvious as such. Never mind, no harm done :o) mikaultalk 11:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] reply

hi - I've dropped you a line or two ;o) mikaultalk 18:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good stuff!

Good to see you getting stuck in! A few constructive comments on your efforts today:

  1. Wiki links (the ones in square brackets) need to be in English or they won't work, and external links should be to English-version webpages (with a few exceptions, like your main source of info or something you've translated) There are usually English equivalents of Spanish wikilinks, like the Vinos de España one at the bottom of the Condado page (change it to Spanish wine).
  2. Don't just create lists and headings; adding text first and headings only when the text gets unwieldy without them, is a tried and trusted method. It lets other editors add their own angles on a subject, so that the article evolves more organically than the constraints of your predetermined settings. Lists are ok, but if that's all you've got, save it until you have an article! FYI, here are special pages for subjects which just need listing.
  3. In general, don't mention/list the añadas, they're just too POV (subjective) sounding for Wikipedia.
  4. Condado de Huelva: within the wine project, the jury is still out on whether to mention just some (key) bodegas, all of them, or none at all. For now, keep it to main ones, ideally famous ones, would be my advice.

In general, a little valuable info is better than a load of extraneous detail. But don't worry, it can all be edited later. I can see that you're definitely getting the hang of it, that's the main thing :o) mikaultalk 19:34, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Condado de Huelva

Great article! I've just copyedited it, noticed some basic pointers you're missing:

  1. Bold the first mention of the article subject
  2. Italicise non-English terms
  3. Use English namestyles wherever possible (eg Andalusia)
  4. Only wikilink the first instance of a word
  5. The history sections are fascinating but you desperately need inline references for them
  6. Categories (at the end) should be for the en: (English) wiki, or they won't link
  7. If you have any photos

I've also added the {{wine}} template on the talk page, but other than that, there wasn't a lot wrong with it at all. Well done!

[edit] re Condado de Huelva

Thanks for that encouragement :)

  • However, I didn't write it, I just translated it from the Spanish wiki!
  • Have taken note of your first 4 recommendations, but I'm afraid I don't how to do the inline references yet. As for the Categories, I don't know what these are at all!!! (yet!)
  • I was thinking of copying the phots from the Spanish wiki, but I'm not sure if this is a Good Thing to do or not!

--BodegasAmbite 09:04, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Airén

Hey, I re-wrote the General info on the Airén grape and I found it a little confusing. Maybe you could take a look at it and make it more plain English?--Charleenmerced Talk 16:04, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

  • I fixed the references section so they are actually links, I removed the stub assessment and tag. This could easily be made into a B article. Good work getting all the info. just needs are re-write. I am currently in finals, so if you can do the first re-write (please remove the bold from the dates) and I can do a final copy edit. Also, can you point me out to where you found the general description? I wanna take a look at it to maybe change a few things and make it more readable to the lay man.--Charleenmerced Talk 16:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)



[edit] --SorenDT 01:34, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi BodegasAmbite! I'm looking very much forward to your wikientry on Organic Wine. I would be very grateful if you could contact me on email regarding the subject. I'm a uni student doing a project on the organic wine industry in Spain and thus not allowed to quote from wikipedia (due to the fact that it can be edited).

I would be very happy if you could contact me on soda04ae@student.cbs.dk or weblimit2004-wikipedia@yahoo.com to answer a few important questions that would be of great value to us.

Best regards,

SorenDT.

[edit] Calatayud

I just read a bit on this. It is one and the same. You should jsut add the DO info into the town page otherwise we would create 2 articles about the same place. I write this assuming that you are writing an article about the DO region and that Calatayud is not a grape or something.--Charleenmerced Talk 16:33, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP and Wikipedia basic info

A stub is a very small article. A Start article, is an article that is underway, longer than a stub but still neds work. A B article is one better than a Start, but references, sections and a good deal of info. A GA article is a Good Article. For this, an article needs to be nominated for GA status and editors that belong to a project that assess articles for GA status determine whether it is GA. Same for A and FA (Featured articles, which is the best status there is). db - meeans that an article has, should be, will be nominated for speedy deletion. wikify means that you have provided internal links through these [[]] and that the article has been divided into sections and that it has an intro paragraph. Tags are codes that can denominate a project, that there are spoilers, that article should have references, should be deleted, etc, etc. Ok, if you have any questions at all, please feel free to ask them on the WP or my talk page. I'll love to help in whatever you need. Also, I am done with finals tomorrow Friday (wohoo!) and I had a look at the Calatayud article in Spanish and it is soooo much better. I will translate it and we can easily change the class of the article to maybe even GA! You work on the DO part and I'll work on the town. I'll check other articles and see whether there should be 2 different ones. You should still ask the question as to whether there should be 2 different articles in the WP talk page. Gather some consensus and we'll go from there. BTW, thanks for all of your edits and additions to Wine related pages!--Charleenmerced Talk 18:11, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Userpages

Hi, how goes it? Busy, I see! Me too, just with other things. I noticed you were trying out a new article on your user page and thought I would point out a way of avoiding cluttering it up. You can create yourself another userpage to practice on. Just go to your normal user page (user:BodegasAmbite) and in your browser URL window (what do you call that?) add a forward slash ( / ) followed by the name of your new page (call it what you like; the convention is to name it "sandbox", but the choice is yours) When you hit return, the "no page exists" page will come up, so create your page and that's it, you have a "spare" user page to mess about with, which no-one sees unless you point them there.
Hope that's of some use to you. Cheers for now!
mikaultalk 08:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
ps I'm glad you didn't change your name in the end, it's grown on me :o)

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[edit] Airén

It's such a good wine, I can't help snooping and checkin how the article is coming along.. the version at your sandbox looks really good, apart from the reliance (almost total) on direct inline quotation from your sources. Here and there it's a good idea, especially from historical sources, but mostly you ought to be summarising and interpreting your sources in your own words, perhaps using a footnote system like {{reflist}} to cite each entry. You have an excellent writing style and don't need to let mere published authors have the final word! Hope you don't mind me butting in ;o) if you're unsure what the hell I'm on about, let me know. Oh, and a keep an eye out for the correos these next few days! Cheers ~ mikaultalk 15:21, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Hola amigo. Note categories are in english also not espanol. Saludos y gracias por tu contribuciones ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 15:26, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] For you

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For all your work in improving Wikipedia's coverage of Spanish wines and wine regions. In a relatively short frame of time the quality of our coverage has risen dramatically and you are the driving force behind that. You are a considerable asset to the Wine Project and I just wanted to let you know that your efforts are greatly appreciated. AgneCheese/Wine 14:01, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is this true?

In my research on the Rioja (wine) article I came across this tidbit which seems a bit odd. It's from a good source but...wow.

“ A unique DO regulation stipulates that the cost of the grapes used to make Rioja must exceed by at least 200% the national average of wine grapes used in all Spanish wines.<ref> K. MacNeil ''The Wine Bible'' pg 417 Workman Publishing 2001 ISBN 1563054345 </ref> ”

I figure our resident Spanish winemaker would be the best to ask about this. :) AgneCheese/Wine 04:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Agne,
I've never heard of that fact before, but I'll investigate and see what I can come up with. The only thing I know about the Rioja DO regulations (and this is hearsay only, not from any specific reliable source) is that they are a bit stricter than other DO's regulations. I think this is because Rioja is actively trying to negate the widespread public perception that it imports grapes from other regions (esp. La Mancha) to blend and to market under the Rioja DO label. This is based on the "fact" that Rioja is a very small region yet manages to export billions of bottles all over the world! But again this is just "common knowledge", not based on any source that I know of.

Interesting. Since it has a reliable source, I added it to the article but if you find something conflicting it, we can remove it. If you get a chance, take a look at the Rioja (wine) and History of Rioja wine article and let me know if you see any areas of improvement. An expert eye is always a plus. AgneCheese/Wine 09:45, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

sure, I'll take a look. However, I ought to say that I am in no way an 'expert', as I have no formal qualifications in winemaking or vineyard management. I think the main contribution I have is 'hands-on' or 'streetwise' knowledge from the School of Hard Knocks :) --BodegasAmbite 11:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

I just noticed that that barnstar above is for me!!!! Well, thank you very much! I'm touched, and dont know waht so say or do! --BodegasAmbite 11:16, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] When you get an opportunity, would you check this out?

An anon has made some subtle changes to temperature and rainfall numbers on the Almansa (DO) and I'm not sure how completely legit they are. Since you originally created the article, I figured you were the best person to ask. :) AgneCheese/Wine 20:56, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Agne,
I've started investigating a bit; it seems that Almansa DO doesn't have its own official web-site - but I'll keep looking. Give me a few days, and I'll check out those temperatures too. --BodegasAmbite (talk) 16:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)