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Contents 1 Vandalism 2 Lame sentence 3 More lame stuff 4 List of bodyboarders 5 Bodyboarding Locations 6 Complete lack of sources or references! 7 Boogieboard? 8 Australian Bodyboarders

[edit] Vandalism

Someone is messing with these pages, trying to show that some Leio Gai is of some importance to bodyboarding. This is pure vandalism. The author is trying to promote perhaps himself or a friend. I´ll be reverting those edits until it stops. Regards.

[edit] Lame sentence

"There was only one thing the revolution didn´t change. It is the thing that makes bodyboarding such great surfing sport. It´s the thing bodyboarding is all about: Tube riding!" Who wrote this? Its dumb. Someone fix it.

Yes, it is. I think I wrote it!!! Can´t remember. I´m working on a complete overhaul on the bodyboarding article. I´ve bought a few hard-copy books on the subject, and will be making this article a lot more professional looking. Just wait! Loudenvier 14:58, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More lame stuff

"The wave is a ramp!" A lot of this article is written as if by a 15 year-old. While enthusiasm for the sport is to be encouraged, at the end of the day this is an encyclopedia, not a magazine. Also, a lot of the comments about specific bodyboarders are grossly biased and very far from objective, e.g. Mike Stewart. Will keep an eye on this. --Ghostreveries 12:14, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

There´s no POV towards Mike Stewart. He is 9 time world champion (prior to the world tour) and is regarded by ALL (consensus) to be the greatest name in bodyboarding. Guilherme Tamega is a 6 time world champion (after the world tour was established), and there´s no POV again. Those comments about those specific bodyboarders could be rephrased but it would be a big mistake to refrain from depicting their importance and prominence in the sport. On the other hand, this article was hastly edited, and it is very unencyclopaedic. Much rework is necessary to bring this article to wikipedia standard. Keep in mind that it´s not only the phrasing that is poor, the article also lacks in facts. For example, the historical section is inaccurate, lacking lots of information about bodyboard in ancient times (paipo board). I´m now working mostly on the Boxer article, but will soon be back into the bodyboarding to help improving it. Things I plan to work on:

1) Rephrase things like "the wake is a ramp"

2) Introduce more technical details about board design

3) Make a more complete and accurate historical section

4) Remove the list of bodyboarders and keep only world champions (this will make an objective list)

5) Remove spams from the External Links section

6) Rephrase description of old-school and new-school

7) Include references using < ref > tags as per wikipedia current style guide

Hope you (all) could help me accomplish this Loudenvier 13:54, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't for one second doubt the significance of Mike Stewart's achievements nor the greatness of Tamega; it is the form of praise given to them that is in question. I agree though that this is a team effort, I will do my best to contribute positively to this page when work is not looking! -- Ghostreveries 10:20, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of bodyboarders

I think it's time to clean-up this list of "NOTABLE" bodyboarders. There must be objective parameters to list people on the list:

• Any world-champion (Stewart, Barcellos, Tâmega, King, Botha...)
• Any bodyboarder to have won an IBA tour sanctioned event
• Any national bodyboarder champion (South African champion, Australian Champion, UK Champion, Brazillian champion, Peruvian champion..)
• The top 16 (or 30) riders of the last year (today it would be the top 16 from 2005 [1])

Any other bodyboarder, no matter what, will not make into the list. This is the only way to keep the list from infringing wikipedia policies of no original research and NPOV. Regards Loudenvier 20:26, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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This list seems to be missing many of the early more notable bodyboarders, particularly many of Asian descent that hailed from Southern California and Hawaii.

No, this list does not seems to be missing many notable bodyboarders. In fact, the list has many non-notable bodyboarders. Notable is not the same as good. While Guilherme Tâmega, Paulo Barcellos, Mike Stewart and Ryan Hardy can be considered without doubt notable bodyboarders, Zé Otávio, Giuliano Lara, and many other bodyboarders who are very good but haven't internation expression couldn't be considered notable for inclusion in the wikipedia bodyboarding article. Less is more sometimes. Regards. Loudenvier 14:35, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bodyboarding Locations

Why is Aruba featured as a prominent location? Aruba is far from a popular travel destination for bodyboarders. I have never seen Aruba covered in any American or Australian bodyboard magazine in the 20 years I've been a part of the sport. This seems to be page vandalism by edit happy Aruba locals. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.15.51.198 (talk) 20:41, 25 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Complete lack of sources or references!

Come on, Wikipedia... this seems like a good article... but there's no way to tell if any of it is true. Jpp42 08:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Six months later and this article is still in serious breach of Wikipedia's core policy on verifiability. A good example is the "Famous bodyboarding locations" which appears to be pure original research. Unless proper references are added soon, I will reduce the entire article to a stub. Thanks, Gwernol 09:42, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Boogieboard?

Is this another term for it, I hear it used occasionally. Is it a genericized trademark? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.75.187.196 (talk) 06:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes. It's more of a brand name for bodyboarding. Just like "Kleenex" is used to describe tissues, many people use "boogie board" to describe bodyboarding.--KangAK (talk) 04:26, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Australian Bodyboarders

This section is completely unreferenced, the subjects don't have pages. Will remove section if no argument. Recurring dreams (talk) 11:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)