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[edit] Chinese military history task force (part 2 since you archived your talk)

Hey there! The Chinese military history task force has been created! Please help us expand Wikipedia's coverage of the military history of China. Feel free to list you name here, and invite your friends too! ;) -- Миборовский U|T|C|M|E|Chugoku Banzai! 01:22, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice comment. I like this name a lot. You have a nice name too. Blue shirts, I am assuming refers to the secret police group under the Kuomintang ROC government which was controlled by Chiang Ching-kuo. -Chiang Kai-shek

[edit] Edit summaries

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thanks, and happy editing.

--digital_me(Talk)(Contribs) 23:37, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Apologies. I misinterpreted your intentions. I removed my comment. Scienceman123 23:47, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] WarWiki

(Sorry if this seems like spamming.) Hey, if you like Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history then you might like war.wikia.com where we need people (we have only 16 users) to write anything about war--fictional (i.e. Star Wars, LOTR) or real (i.e. WWII, American Civil War). Thank you! the_ed17 13:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: map

Hi there. I use Photoshop, which is quite an investment =| I haven't used it myself, but the free GIMP has always seemed to be the most popular alternative. Hope that helps, --Loopy e 06:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request help

hi BlueShirts, You share pretty much the same values as I do when talking about the Repbublic of China. Therefore, I hope you will agree and help me in the ongoing dispute about naming the ROC portal, ROC, not "Taiwan." You can see the links on my talk page, which lead to other mediation/talk pages. Please respond. Thank you. -Chiang Kai-shek 00:34, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

When I think about a portal, I think its usually named by country and it contains information and links to other related articles. How is it geographic? They claim to want to put information about Taiwan exclusively, but that can be done under the name Portal:Republic of China. After all, Taiwan makes up most of the free territory of the ROC. We don't have to include Mongolia, Mainland China, etc. Some brief info can be given about the Chinese Civil War and the ROC/PRC. I think they are promoting a pan-green political agenda with regards to naming, color, etc. -Chiang Kai-shek 00:49, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Portals

Hi BlueShirts, I noticed when looking at Chiang Kai-shek's talk page that you were interested in the idea of a ROC portal, but didn't really know a lot about portals. If you are interested in portals (regardless of the out of Taiwan/ROC portal debate) you can find out everything you need here. I hope that you find this useful. Yours, The Halo (talk) 01:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taiwan "state" vs "country"

Hi, please join the discussion on Talk:Taiwan regarding what term we should use. Simply changing it back and forth will not get us anywhere. Ideogram 02:31, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Never mind. Aish Warya was apparently a sockpuppet account created for vandalism. Ideogram 06:26, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

There is no discussion on whether Taiwan is a state or a country. It is a province of the Republic of China. (province=state). -Chiang Kai-shek 00:48, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Taiwan

Hi BlueShirts,

Finally, another person who understands the intension of the portal being about the island of Taiwan as a geographic entry. I used to support Portal:Republic of China because the China portal is Portal:Republic of China so I thought it should've been a "nation/state" portal as well. But after I read the reason for the portal name (given by User:Captain0) I understood that it's geographic, so it covers a wide scope of topics concerning Taiwan island. Whereas an ROC portal limits the scope of topics down to ROC on Taiwan (Therefore, cannot mention colonial history by Dutch, Japan, Ming, Qing) or about aborigines because it raises "anti-ROC" or "pro-independence" problems. But the fact is these topics widen our understanding about the history of Taiwan.

Your suggestion about making the Portal:Republic of China into a portal about the politics and history of the ROC is a good idea, so long as it doesn't claim to be Taiwan but "China (inc. Taiwan)" since 1911 with the map of China (mainland territories shaded; ROC jurisdiction highlighted). That would be more ROC-centric and can mention a wide range of topics such as Chinese Civil War, retrocession of Taiwan to ROC from Japan, military campaigns, etc. Then it can be linked to Portal:Taiwan and the Taiwan portal can be linked to "Republic of China" and "People's Republic of China" as the history. Then I suggest we ask that Portal:China be ressurected as being about China (geography) which will link to both PRC and ROC portals (politics) that should be the best compromise to the portal name dispute. A Portal China can mention history about the dynasties, the question about Tibet, Xinjiang, Mongolia, etc because that is the history of China, not the history of PRC. — Nrtm81 09:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello BlueShirts. This is just a note to inform say that there is a mediation process currently ongoing at Portal talk:Taiwan which you might be interested in as you have commented on this issue before. However, do not feel pressured to comment here as the mediation process is between Nrtm81 and Chiang Kai-shek. If you don't want to get involved in the issue, you don't have to. On the flip side of that, if you feel that you have something helpful to add, please do! We would aprichiate any comment that you have on the matter, and would like it if you could help us resolve the issue.
Yours, The Halo (talk) 11:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much, I thought so too. It's just too bad that the mediation broke down and has gone to ArbCom. Still, thank you very much for your comments all the same. The Halo (talk) 19:20, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Please see the arbitration page for further information on my view. I'm happy to have a Taiwan exclusive portal, but it just can't be under the name "Taiwan" because it is way too confusing and raises way too many eyebrows. I'm not from Mainland China and I am not a Communist Chinese conspirator. I am a supporter of the Republic of China and I love Taiwan as well. Both can be accomplished at the same time. -Chiang Kai-shek 00:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

No, I'm actually from Taiwan, and I'm not a waishengren. I'm a benshengren. I'm born in Taiwan and proud of it. But I love both the Republic of China and Taiwan. I think the status quo is the way too go personally. Frankly, I'm not happy with the Mainlander Chinese and the Communist Party of China. -Chiang Kai-shek 01:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi, can you help convince Chiang Kai-shek to agree to "Portal:Taiwan (island)"? It seems like such a small thing, they are now fighting over two characters! Ideogram 08:25, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Maps

Do you mean myself personally? It's not too sophisticated; I just use GIMP and draw in the arrows by combining a path trace with pencilled-in arrowheads.

If you mean what a good map maker would use, you'd probably have to ask someone who actually knows how to draw! ;-) Kirill Lokshin 21:11, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Dunno; how wide are you making them? I used the "stroke path" command with a width of 3px and managed to get halfway decent results. Kirill Lokshin 05:10, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm not really sure. I do know that, for almost all maps, redrawing it by hand avoids any sort of copyright issues; but I'm not sure how tracing would affect it. I would assume that, if the tracing was close enough to the original, it would count as "reproduction" and become a derivative work of the original map, copyright-wise; but it's probably a question you should ask on Wikipedia:Copyrights or some similar page if you want a more certain answer. Kirill Lokshin 05:27, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
As far as I know, yes; the backgrounds are public domain images (really old maps are great for this sort of thing) and the lines are drawn in by hand (for obviousl reasons—I couldn't trace any existing maps onto the background images I had). I don't know if actually tracing the lines from somewhere would change the situation or not, though. Kirill Lokshin 05:32, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Free Area of the Republic of China

Hey BlueShirts, if you don't mind, can you create a portal theme for the Portal:Free Area of the Republic of China. I have decided that it would be better to have that portal than the Portal:Taiwan. The Free Area is a politically neutral term and it covers all of the territory in the current ROC's jurisdiction. If you could contribute, please do so. Also, we should work on Portal:Republic of China as well. -Chiang Kai-shek 01:19, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

It would be nice to have Portal:ROC cover everything about the ROC from Mainland and all the history of Taiwan. However, that would create problems, because people like Nrtm81 don't agree. They want Portal:Taiwan. So then we should use Portal:ROC for all history of ROC from Mainland to Taiwan, but for Taiwan history specifically, we should use Portal:Free Area of the Republic of China. -Chiang Kai-shek 02:28, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Portal:ROC is supposed to be a separate new portal only about the ROC from its time on the Mainland and to present. On the other hand, Portal:Free Area of the Republic of China is supposed to be the replacement for Portal:Taiwan. -Chiang Kai-shek 11:59, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Battle of Wuhan

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[edit] Shanghai1937 images

Hi, BlueShirts. I've noticed that these pictures you uploaded have a tag which is probably fair as to copyright, but absolutely no source information. Can you please list the sources ASAP so as to ensure there aren't any fair usage problems? Thanks, John Smith's 22:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Blue, if you don't give me some sort of response I'll have to tag them. I know that you are editing wikipedia - what's the problem? John Smith's 18:25, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
This doesn't have anything to do with the Nanjing issue. It's to do with improperly sourced/evidenced pictures. You can't just say "they are fair use", you need to specify the source. Please go through the pictures and actually list the photobooks you got them from - author, title, page number, etc. Then they'll be fine.
Pictures get deleted all the time because they don't have proper copyright and source info. That is wikipedia policy. John Smith's 11:54, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Blue, why do you keep ignoring me/refusing to state the specific sources for these pictures? Can't you even state you will make it a priority to list appropriate sources? Is it too much to ask from you? John Smith's 11:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] What

I THINK THIS ARTICLE Republic of China NEED MORE AND MORE PICTURES , SEE People's Republic of China ANDSouth Korea ANDJapan ANDSingapore , THESE ARTICLE HAVE A LOT OF PICTURES ,SHOULDN SOMEBODY TO ADD MORE PICTURES FOR IT?

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[edit] RE:User box

Of course not. -- Миборовский 06:04, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Stegosaurus

Hi BlueShirts!

I'm planning to send Stegosaurus to Featured Article candidacy. The article failed its first nomination, but user:Casliber and I have been hard at work fixing stuff. As you're listed as a member of Wikipedia: WikiProject Dinosaurs, I figured I'd drop you a line and see if there was anything you thought should be added/removed/cited on the article before it is sent to FAC. We definitely want it to pass! :)

(Feel free to make any edits on the article itself, comment on the talk page, or leave a note on my talk page). Thanks for your time, Firsfron of Ronchester 19:22, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi BlueShirts!
I've followed your advice and added the diet section. I don't know why no one thought of that until now, so I'm glad I asked for a few second opinions, such as yours. I am trying to closely follow the earlier dinosaur Featured Articles in terms of layout and information, as you noted. Anyway, thanks again for your helpful suggestions. :) Happy editing, Firsfron of Ronchester 04:53, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:Warlord era

Hi,

I am currently exploring the idea of splitting this template into four different parts. I feel that it is simply too large in its present state. It takes up the entire screen on my computer. I have created four mockups of my idea, which can be viewed by going to User:Danaman5/Workshop and clicking on the four "Warlord" links. As someone who has edited this template before, I wanted to get your opinion before moving forward. You can leave a message on my user talk page with any comments.

Thanks, --Danaman5 01:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Some suggestion page for u to edit

Sino-Indian_War McMahon_Line Aksai_Chin Arunachal_Pradesh Tawang_District

p/s: The may be u can passed the link to ur frens that interested to edit those article.Sawadeekrap 09:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Wang Chien-ming

Apparently this Yankee guy keeps disputing the fact that Chien-ming was born in Tainan City, Taiwan, Republic of China. He keeps insisting that Taiwan by itself is an independent sovereign nation. That is not true. I keep pointing him to reliable sources such as the ROC government websites and several Wikipedia articles. But he just doesn't bother to read it. He keep saying MLB says just Taiwan. Well of course, it would, since the USA doesn't maintain diplomatic relations with the Republic of China. Well, duh, but he just doesn't get it. Can you help us resolve this dispute? Thank you -Nationalist 08:53, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Nationalist (talk · contribs) is posting strawman arguments and outright lies. I've neither said nor implied that Taiwan is a sovereign nation, nor do I really care. I'm asking for a reliable source that says Wang was born in the Republic of China. Every single reliable source I've found says Taiwan. The threshold for inclusion of information into Wikipedia is verifiability - not truth. Please review WP:VERIFY. All I'm asking for is a reliable source that says Wang was born any place other than Taiwan. Nationalist seems unable to comply with this very simple request or unwilling for personal reasons that may include a non NPOV. He/she has done nothing other than to post original research, links to sites that don't even mention Wang, or sources links to other articles on Wikipedia. Again and I'll repeat this so we're clear, as per Wikipedia policy, The threshold for inclusion of information into Wikipedia is verifiability - not truth. I would suggest an RFC with further posts on the article talk page, rather than canvassing and disputes on numerous users talk pages. Yankees76 16:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Being Uncivil

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[edit] This is out of control

We need to reign in these guys..I am looking for a compromise and solution, but these guys are becoming more radical by the second. For example, for Guantian, Tainan, Jerry made Chen Shui-bian "President of Taiwan" instead of "President of the Republic of China." He also called the Presidential Building Taiwan, instead of ROC Presidential Building. And his fellow supporters are adding to this. What should we do? What is your email? -Nationalist 02:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I am still looking for a compromise, but no luck. Jerry is out to delete all instances of Republic of China or ROC and to make sure everything says Taiwan Taiwan and Taiwan. I have no problem having Taiwan, ROC or Taiwan, Republic of China. The Taiwan existing there clarifies everything. But why does he have to delete ROC or Republic of China? Clearly, I think he is pushing a POV. Examples are the above edit to Guantian and several others. Several articles were fine before he started vandalizing it. For example for an article the field said Country: Republic of China. he purposely changed it to Taiwan (ROC). But it was already clear that this was Taiwan since underneath that field said Birthplace: Kaoshuing, Taiwan. I would like to seek mediation and opinions, can you refer anyone here and get in contact with Jiang? -Nationalist 00:58, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
You guys were bickering and you didn't invite me... =( Jumping cheese Cont@ct 17:46, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Hey!

Thanxs for the message. That a look at Talk:Taiwan and Talk:Republic of China and all the archives for the thousands of comments on naming convention. Basically everyone accused each other of POV and eventually the fights died down, only to be continuously restarted...so there's really no consensus about the naming. However, whenever naming becomes an issue, it's best to appeal to both sides of the political spectrum, such as "Republic of China (Taiwan)" instead of "Republic of China" or "Taiwan". That usually causes the least controversy.
I have a vague memory of coming across an actual naming convention discussion on some official Wikipedia page, but I became active in Wikipedia after it had ended. I can't find it...so sorry. =) Jumping cheese Cont@ct 18:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] World War 2

Excuse me but I am having great difficulty understanding your edit to World War 2, even more your summary “no”. Perhaps you should clarify how Chiang Kaishek was leader of the Communist forces in China, all 1.3 million, and why, if so, both sides continued to fight each other during the height of the conflict!

I do not see how Mao Zedong cannot be classified as an important leader in World War 2. The article on the 2nd Sino Japanese War list the Chinese Communists as a separate faction, and this is shown in the “commanders” section for Mao Zedong. Mao Zedong and his fellow communists even considered themselves a separate nation during the war as the Soviet (later People’s) republic of China, and the Kuomintang Republic of China, and not one unified country.

Judging by your site you probably know a lot more Chinese history than me, and if there is a good reason why Mao Zedong cannot be called this, please specify this. Matt. P 17:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry, I realised my mistake and it has been rectified.Matt. P 17:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Passing by

Hi, i am HappyApple from Wikiproject Chemistry, i have read to your user's page and it seems when you speak about yourself you claim work in laboratory or doing research. Are you interested in joining our project?, We have many tasks to do, and i feel you can help us in the maintenance =) . By the way i also read to your oppinions about the P.R.C and i agree with you, i dont like the commies also, by the way, are you chinese? I have this impression, well, take care and happy new year.--HappyApple 09:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RFC/discussion of article World War II

Hello, Blueshirts. As a prominent contributor to World War II, you may want to be aware that a request for comments has been filed about it. The RFC can be found by the article's name in this list, and the actual discussion can be found on Talk:World War II, in case you wish to participate. Thank you for your contributions. -- Krellis 01:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chiang Kai-shek Memorial Hall

Thanks for correcting the blurb to the correct term "desinicization". I just BSed the translation. Kelvinc 09:42, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tears of the Black Tiger

Hi! I've responded to your question on Talk:Tears of the Black Tiger. Have you seen the film? — WiseKwai 14:49, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] People's Republic of China

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[edit] Shanghai Battle with a Nanjing Baby

Hey dude. I re-edited my edit to your edit. Or something. I deleted the Nanjing baby from the Battle of Shanghai article because, well, it is a Nanjing baby, not a Shanghai baby. Unless you've got information saying otherwise, I think it should stay out. I'm not randomly editing stuff for my amusement or to put forward a specific interpretation. You didn't mention in the comments why you put it back in, though. I've started a conversation on the page about it.

--Bakarocket 11:52, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] World War II Mediation Case

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What do you think? Haber 13:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Alright. Haber 23:12, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] psst - Taiwanese American

Hey, from my "conversations" with Certified.Gangsta in the past, I gathered that he's one quarter Taiwanese, apparently. He doesn't think there are Chinese people in Taiwan. --Sumple (Talk) 08:15, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

A bit from column A, and a bit from column B? I think it's a combination of (1) a very warped understanding of Taiwan and (perhaps) his own identity, and (2) a steadfast refusal to look at evidence. --Sumple (Talk) 03:44, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Second Sino-Japanese War page

Chinese Communists allowed the Nationalist forces to do the majority of the fighting against Japan, while conducting guerilla warfare against the Japanese forces. The CCP sought to avoid direct conflicts with the Japanese Army in order to emerge from the war stronger than the Nationalist forces, so in the inevitable struggle for dominance, the CCP would be the victor.

As I mentioned in the discussion page of the article itself, the sentences do not sound neutral. It would be more appropriate to say something like "The CCP avoided frontal confrontations with the Japanese Imperial Army while conducting guerilla warfare, in order to spread communist influences and build bases of operations." Hanfresco 12:26, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Certified.Gangsta RfC

Hey, you probably already know, but there is an RfC on User:Certified.Gangsta at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Certified.Gangsta. I know that you have been involved in and attempted to resolve this dispute, so you might want to consider certifying the RfC so that it is not deleted again. Note that I am not advocating for any particular position. I just want to see this dispute move into the formal resolution processes so that it can be resolved with the least amount of bloodshed possible. The present back and forth on numerous talk pages and the Admin noticeboard is helping no one. --Danaman5 21:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The RfC is now approved. You may wish to make a statement on the matter or add evidence.--Danaman5 04:19, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
That is incorrect, the RfC is not yet approved. In order for it to meet approval, please point out any attempts on your parts to resolve the dispute (in diff format). If such diffs are already listed, please point these out. Thanks in advance. El_C 21:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
It means diffs featuring yourself speaking to the user in question about the dispute. El_C 21:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China#Naming conventions

Hi please participate in the discussion. --Ideogram 01:26, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Saying hi

Yes, been quite busy with, among other things, preparing for college and playing video games. :P Should hopefully have more time after May. -- 我♥中國 19:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Needing Help With Photo Copywright

Hi once more, I have a question about a recently uploaded photo that I want to use for Liuhe Pagoda of China. The article lacked any picture, and it really needs one, considering that it is one of the greatest Song Dynasty (or any) Chinese pagoda standing today.

The image is found at this link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Liuhe_Pagoda.jpg

If you would be so kind, I'd like to have you or somebody else verify the copywright license (it's some random American guy's vacation blog pic). In the meantime, I have given it the GFDL presumed tag, but if I do not verify the copywright stuff, it will be deleted in 7 days!

Thanks for your help, --PericlesofAthens 06:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ranks of the People's Liberation Army

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[edit] Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Certified.Gangsta-Ideogram

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A request for arbitration has been filed regarding the conduct of Certified.Gangsta.

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Thanks.

LionheartX 16:35, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I just saw your statement at Requests for Arbitration [2] , and it looks to me like your statement isn't clear what editor you're talking about: you use he/him/his without specifying whom you mean (note that the case is called "Certified.Gangsta-Ideogram", so it could refer to either one). You might want to clarify (I'm not an arbitrator or clerk, so this isn't official, by any means). Heimstern Läufer 00:33, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Just a note: When you want to write an rebuttal to someone's comment on RfAr, you must do it in your own section. I took the liberty of moving what you wrote back into your comment section. See here. If there's any questions, please ask me here or on my talk page. Thanks. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 17:43, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Taiwanese History Sources

Hey, I appreciate your enthusiastic approach, but you should really be providing sources for such major edits.Maowang 05:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Certified.Gangsta-Ideogram

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[edit] Dinosaur UBX

Hi Blueshirts,

Saw that you have a UBX about dinosaurs and thought that this might be of interest to you:

This user happily missed
the Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event.




{{User K-T Boundary Event}}

Take care,

Larry

--Lmcelhiney 13:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Canvassing

Canvassing is a Wikipedia guideline, not a policy. Nevermind Durova. You're allowed to post notices on people's talk pages as long as it's not mass spamming, you don't suggest which way to vote, and your audience sample is considered neutral. Cheers, ~ UBeR 18:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ugly red links

Hi Blueshirts,

I'm still curious how you chose your username... Hey, if you're gonna put a link to May Chin on the Taiwanese aborigines page, why don't you write an article about her? One source I know of is here:

... you should know that the "notable people" section is a bit of a wart on the article at the moment, because it is in list format, and because it is so short. Eventually it will either get merged into some other section, re-written into paragraph form, or simply deleted...

Later! --Ling.Nut 19:36, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Blueshirts

Here's some infor regarding why some people may find "Blueshirts" offensive or suggestive of a political agenda and a particular POV:

Johnathan D. Spence, the highly regarded China expert from Yale, characterizes the Blueshirts in his undergraduate staple, The Search for Modern China, as:

...Spearheaded by the earliest graduating classes of Whampoa cadets, to steel the political and military leadership of China for the long struggles ahead. Pledging themselves to lives of ascetic rigor, rejecting gambling, whoring or excessive consumption of food and drink, members of the group wore shirts made of coarse blue cotton, which led to their being informally named, 'Blueshirts'...Encouraged by Chiang...One theorist for the 'Blueshirts' spoke openly for their need to be like a knife, an instrument that could kill in combat or harmlessly cut vegetables...the same theorist found models for China to emulate in three societies: Stalin's Soviet Union, Hitler's Germany and Mussolini's Italy. In all three cases, he claimed, the purpose behind the slogans of national or state socialism was similar to Sun Yat Sen's Three Principles of the People. He saw democracy as a sham that could only damage a country like China, with poverty and illiterate masses. ....With a fierce loyalty to the cult of Chiang as leader, with a strong base in the administrative, military and party machinery, and with its members granted special roles in the anti-Communist campaign, the Blueshirts nucleus developed into a disciplined military and secret-police apparatus....The Blueshirt Dai Li, a Zhejiang-born Whampoa graduate, became head of Chiang Kai-sheck's Special Service Section....Initially supervising 145 operatives, by 1935 he had 1700. Dai Li was believed to have directed a number of political assasinations of those opposed to Chiang, including the head of the Chinese League for the Protection of Civil Rights (in 1933) and editor of Shanghai's leading newspaper (in 1934) (It continues with descriptions of how Blue Shirts were used to infiltrate labor groups and spy on citizens). Spence, The Search for Modern China(pp.357-358).

furthermore

In March 1940 Wang Jingwei, Sun Yat Sen's former lieutenant and one time second-in-command to Chiang Kai-sheck, at last lent his prestige to the central China puppet regime-to the delight of the Japanese- by accepting the post of its ranking official. Wang's regime was afforded diplomatic recognition by the Japanese...Despite concentrated attempts by Guomintang secret agentsunder Dai Li to assasinate prominent Chinese collaborators, Wang's regime survived....

(Spence, p.439)

Barbara Tuchman in, Stilwell and the American Experience in China, refers to the Blueshirts as, "The Kuomintang's stormtroopers". (Tuchman, p.321)

The least flatteriing portrait is painted by Brian Crozier in, The Man Who Lost China (1976),(Crozier;pp.10-11)

Theodore White's Chapter in, Thunder Out Of China, "Chiang Kai-sheck-The People's Choice" does not get into the Blue Shirts per se, but he does mention the New Life ideology.

For the Sterling Seagrave treatment, you can look at pp.292-294 in The Soong Dynasty.

If these characterizations are way off... they seem to be the predominant opinion of scholars and China Studies experts, so you can't get too upset if people disagree with you. Maowang 01:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


On your long comment, all I have to say is give me a break, you're beating a dead horse. Every book on Chinese history that labels the blue shirts as "fascists" based this conclusion solely on Lloyd Eastman's article in China Quarterly. The same thing is carried over to Eastman's book Abortive Revolution. I've read many books and when you check the notes section, almost all of them cite the above work by Eastman as reference. Thus, it makes absolutely no difference at all how many references you can drum up with, because all of them are derived from the same work. After some heated discussion with Maria Chang in the China Quarterly, and particularly after the revelation and exposure of the group by former members in the 1980s, Eastman has profoundly changed his views, and this is reflected in an article published in the journal Republican China, now "Comtemporary China" I believe. Research in these areas is always changing, please. Blueshirts 03:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

You seem to be trying to blame Eastman for all the research on the Blueshirts. I'm sure Mr. Eastman would be flattered that he could have so much influence and the singular authority. I haven't seen his name in any of the notes. I did see a report from a magazine article from 1936. I also see a book here called "Fascism in China 1925-1938: A Documentary Study, by Michael Lestz and Cheng Pei-kai pp. 311-314. This does not seem to rely on Eastman for any "documentary evidence".

I'm trying to think of where I saw that connection...maybe in Formosa Betrayed or something

Anyway... whether right or wrong, many people are reading the version I provided and thus may view your tag as "loaded". Maowang 03:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Lloyd Eastman, in the 1991 book, The Nationalist Era in China, on page 28, clearly calls them fascist and influenced by the ideologies of Hitler, Mussolini etal.Maowang 04:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

That is so much misinformation. The passage from Barbara Tuchman's book on Stilwell says the organization was founded in 1932, when in reality it was 1931 before the invasion of Manchuria. It also says they were Chiang's "storm troopers", when the influence of fascism was minimal. The entire passage also had only one passing mention on the oganization, "...leaders of group which founded the Blue Shirts, the Kuomintang's storm troopers". And the sentence itself was not referenced and carried no citation at all. And you're using this weak reference as a source to call them fascists? As for the information from Crozier's The Man Who Lost China, it's a popular history book with very little research value. Crozier is a journalist, not a historian. This is from the review of this book on Pacific Affairs (v. 51 no. 1) by James Sheridan "...the sparsity of sources shows up not only in obvious errors in Chiang's main public activities, but also in gross over-simplifications and errors in his treatment of the political context". The only good thing about this book is that it was the first English biography about Chiang's entire life, but carries too many mistakes and too little analysis for the specialist, especially in an area as complicated as the blue shirts. The same thing can be said for "Soong Dynasty" and this popular history books, which are good the the general readership, but probably would get a graduate student marked for his use in his term paper. And I'm surprised that Eastman was not mentioned as he was the head guy in creating this notion in western scholarship, with his seminal article in the China Quarterly in 1972, as most previous sources that called the blue shirts fascists were Japanese intelligence propaganda aiming to undermine Chinag's negotiations during the pre-war period. And the 1991 book by Eastman was not a new book, it was a collection of essential chapters from the Cambridge History of China. It does not reflect any changes in his views due to his discussions with various historians and former members of the group. Seriously, I hope you don't make this kind out-of-context edits and quote mining on any of the articles you make on wikipedia, and maybe find better specialist sources than general history books that you find in barnes-and-nobles. Blueshirts 04:36, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


I just thought I would ask... so I was looking at an old Chinese history book from 1964, Twentieth Century China, by Edmund Clubb. On page 213 he describes the Blue Shirts as "Nanking's fascist-type body". Since Clubb predates Eastman's article by eight years, should we blame his work for the bad info?;-)Maowang 08:05, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


Frederick Wakeman's 2003 book,Spymaster:Daili and the Chinese Secret Service, on pages 101-102 (fully aware of the Eastman debate), describes the Blue Shirts as "proto-fascist", and provides notes on the similarities and differences between the Blue Shirts and the European fascist organizations. Not the kind of people a person would seemingly want to identify with today. Maowang 05:51, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

like i said, the earliest sources to call them fascists were from pre-war Japanese intelligence, and from the archives of the international police in the shanghai concessions. Eastman was not the first one to label them fascists, but he was the main force behind this whole debate in western scholarship, and it was in direct response to his "denigration" of the organization that former members came into the limelight and published memoirs and articles in journals like "chuan chi wen shuei" in Taiwan. Wakeman goes into more length in Reapprasing Republican China and invents this term "confucian fascism", which he calls "iconically amibiguous". Their "ism" was the Three Principles of the People, and they did not need a foreign "ism" to reinvigorate China. Basically they were a nativist group, where anti-foreignism and ethnic revival were of utmost importance, not necessarily "fascism". And can you please tell me where you found that Chiang Ching-kuo was the leader of the blue shirts, thanks, as this is very interesting. Blueshirts 17:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Konoe

Hi, I notice (unfortunaltely after removing him...) you brought back Fumimaro Konoe as "commander" in second sino-japanese war arguing he sould be there as political leader . I do not really object to that, for if you think the Infobox should refer to political leaders, I suggest we also add Hirohito, who was not only supreme commander of Army and Navy but also a major political leader. To explain his resignation, Konoe himself said to his chief cabinet secretary Tomita : «I felt the Emperor was telling me "my prime minister does not understand military matters, I know much more". In short, the Emperor has absorbed the view of the Army and Navy high command.» --Flying tiger 14:26, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Taierzhuang.jpg

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[edit] Civility

Please use different language when disagreeing with folks. Some of your posts to Betacommand's talk page today have been quite inappropriate and serve to weaken your argument in the eyes of your peers. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 22:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

screw it, more people are pissed off at him than anything I've said. Blueshirts 03:11, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
That doesn't change the fact that he is correct. Mob rule does not trump legal liability for the project, nor does it excuse your incivility. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 15:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
At which point did I (or any of us) want to "trump legal liability" of the project? We're pissed off at his method of racking up unproductive edits. Instead of leaving a one week deletion notice beneath the image in the main article namespace, he summarily removes it from the article, so no one would know what happened, and then leaves countless notices on the uploaders' talk page, many of whom have not editted for a quite while and apparently would not be able to respond to the rationale request. You're right I shouldn't have called him stupid, but what the guy's been doing is lazy and irresponsible. And apparently he listens to nobody and does not compromise with the vast majority of editors who agree with wikipedia policy but not his method at dealing with the problem and his very limited ability to discuss the issue other than referring to rule section so and so. Blueshirts 17:00, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Blueshirts, you need to stop the incivility. Just cause you think he's wrong doesn't mean you get to violate wikipedia policy yourself. Consider this a warning. ⇒ SWATJester Denny Crane. 05:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Are you blind or something? In the previous post I already said I shouldn't have called him stupid. And that was on the 18th. Why do you wait till the 22nd and out of the blue to post this ridiculous "warning" on my page? Give me a break. Blueshirts 07:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Thank you for the welcome

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[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Certified.Gangsta 2

Hello,

A request for arbitration has been filed regarding the conduct of Certified.Gangsta.

Can I trouble you to write a statement at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Certified.Gangsta 2 recounting your interactions with him and your impressions of his conduct as an editor?

Thanks.

LionheartX 07:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Again

Hello BlueShirts, Do you still remember me? I have returned to Wikipedia. I am just dropping by to say Hello. Hope to talk to you again. =) Heqong 02:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] on The Battle of China

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[edit] Generalissimo

Chiang_Kai-shek#Tutelage_over_China used the term. I think 蔣元帥 is a usage in Chinese also.--Jerry 22:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

45,700 ghits for the term.--Jerry 15:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

38,900 ghits for "Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek" -wikipedia.

I know you said in Chinese but this is the English Wikipedia. I just wanted you to know that it is a pretty common usage in English.--Jerry 17:25, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] picture talk

[edit] Who Owns This?

This image's copyright status seems to be severely muddled. It is found throughout the Internet, but the authorship of the image appears to be lost to the ages. I have seen reference to a H.S. Wong, apparently a Chinese-American photographer working for William Randolph Hearst in an article questioning the photo's validity (Here), however, even that is weak evidence at best. Any idea what should be done until the copyright status is sorted out? -- Xanadu 02:42, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Nanking or Shanghai?

This picture was believed taken in Shanghai (in or near the Shanghai Railway Station). It was about August 13th, 1937, the day on which the Japanese launched the Battle of Shanghai.--Captmjc 09:17, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This Page says Shanghai: [3]

--Kingruedi 7 July 2005 13:12 (UTC)

This picture was taken by H. S. Wong at Shangahi South Station in Nantao on August 28, 1937, which was probably reprinted from his newsreel. This picture appeared in LIFE of Oct. 4, 1937 and similar pictures in LOOK of Dec. 21, 1937. Please remember H. S. Wong took pictures at Vietnam war. I don't belive this picture is public domain.

LIFE, OCTOBER, 4, 1937 p.102
THE CAMERA OVERSEAS:136,000,000 PEOPLE SEE THIS PICTURE OF SHANGHAI'S SOUTH STATION

(picture)
After 16 Japanese bombing planes had flown home, Aug.28,H.S.("Newsreel")Wong, famous Hearst cameraman, was first to reach the dreadful scene at the Shanghai South Station. He got this picture- of-the-week--a Chinese baby amid the wreckage. A print of it was sent through International News Service to all Hearst newspapers, totaling 25,000,- 000 readers, and to 35 non-Hearst paper totaling 1,750,000. It went in a mat reproduction to 800 other papers in the U.S., totaling 4,000,000. To for- eign nwespapers International distributed the same picture, adding another estimated 25,000,000 readers. In the "News of the Day" newsreel, the sequence containing the baby was seen by some 25,000,000 movie-goers. Movietone News bought it, showed it to another 25,000,000. Together both newsreels are showing it to another 30,000,000 movie-goers abroad. This Chinese baby's potential audience: 136,000,000.

p.103

(picture) The same Chinese baby as shown on oposite page in Shanghai's South Station wreckage was taken in charge by a Chinese Boy Scout and given first aid on the station platform.


I have examined the picture and posted pictures and my articles at the following URLs:

--Watanabe Hisashi 14:05, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

add the above from the talk page at commons. Blueshirts 20:13, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Fake Photograph as BuriedAlive.jpg

I would like you to know you have wrongly tagged this image as "orphaned fair use" when in fact it is a public domain image. Furthermore you nominated it for deletion less than 3 weeks after another nomination. Cheers. -Nard 15:40, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfC on Nanking Massacre

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I'm going to leave the discussion on the Nanking Massacre talk page[5] - it's really taking time away from the article editing that I want to do. I've asked John Smith's to let the RfC run for a couple more days to see if anybody wants to continue. If nobody wants to continue, he'll just delete the Genocide category and I won't oppose him, even though I disagree with it. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 17:02, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Allegations of Chinese apartheid

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Please stop. If you continue to use disruptive or hard to read formatting, as you did to Allegations of Chinese apartheid, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Tiggerjay 23:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Blueshirts. We haven't met, so my request is a bit awkward. Your comment about Taiwan is interesting, but I don't feel it deals with the questions I am asking. If you don't mind terribly, could you remove it from my Comments section? I'd appreciate it. Thanks. HG | Talk 23:07, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

It needs to stay. It's the prime example showing how crappy the entire article is. Blueshirts 02:00, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mao

Blueshirts - the reason I'm reverting you on the Mao talk page is because wikipedia talk pages are for discussing the article - your merely discussing the topic, which is not allowed.--danielfolsom 23:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The hacked up image is back

Looks like Hare-Yukai has re-uploaded a slightly modified version of his image, after it was deleted.[6] Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 02:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Wikipedia email

I really don't care about these arguments anymore. What is it they say about a leopard and its spots? -- 我♥中國 17:16, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

not sure about the animal. Blueshirts 22:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Battle of Shanghai

I was wondering if you have further plans for Battle of Shanghai. It doesn't look far from a GA or FA. -- 我♥中國 20:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

yesI have to add the citations and stuff, been pretty busy lately. Blueshirts 06:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Rabota

He said he made the video, so he basically admitted he is Tamagawaboat. I don't know about his blog, and I know nothing about the politics and history involved here, but I do find it interesting that Frank Capra may have engaged in a little bit of truth-bending-for-hire. It's original research, to be sure, but if it's generated enough attention from reliable sources, the Fake of Nanking may actually deserve its own article. I think his identity and the content of his blog are irrelevant to the issue whether it is original research and the copyright issues. -- But|seriously|folks  04:59, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked for Violating WP:3RR

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[7] [8] [9] [10] intervening warning[11]. You are also harassing the other user. He obviously does not want to answer your question and you have no right to pressure him to do so. -- But|seriously|folks  17:44, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

that's BS. I also asked another question regarding the offensive video he emailed me. Blueshirts 18:59, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

You've violated it. Revert yourself, please. Hornplease 18:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I was undoing blatant vandalism, please. Blueshirts 18:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Block

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[edit] Second Sino Japanese War

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The January 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
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[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXIV (February 2008)

The February 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
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[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXV (March 2008)

The March 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
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[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVI (April 2008)

The April 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
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[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVII (May 2008)

The May 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
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