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I might reply here or on your page, I'm a bit crazy like that.

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[edit] Request restoration of my edits of Profit.

Please see Talk:Profit --Bhuston 19:45, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding my name to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage

Hey there.

As per the instructions onWP:AWB, I have been asked to submit my name for addition to the CheckPage list.

Thanks very much!--Dan (Talk)|@ 09:26, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for adding me!--Dan (Talk)|@ 09:39, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Just wondering... Is having 500 edits necessary or 440 (441 actually now) does it? Fetofs 16:42, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
No, its just a rough guide, I'll add your name, thanks Martin 16:45, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the addition! Fetofs 20:06, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB Request:

Please register me as a user - Rye1967 00:00, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Done! --M@thwiz2020 00:05, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB-registration request

Hello, I'd like to be registered as a user of the "AutoWikiBrowser". Thanks, Netizen 02:04, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Done! --M@thwiz2020 02:14, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Wow, that was swift. Thank you. --Netizen 02:37, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use for AWB - fixing disambig pages

Martin, I wasn't part of the discussion but this is a project for you or someone using the AWB Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)/Disambiguation subcategories. The specific replacements are listed here. --Reflex Reaction (talk)• 14:59, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Martin came and volunteered, and I turned him away, becaue we weren't ready. But that was in the "*LAdisambig cleanup" section. The "*dis cleanup" might be more amenable to using a bot, at least on those pages that don't have "(disambiguation)" in the name.
  • right now, the What links here for these templates is pretty worthless. In one case, it listed no references, although there were several hundred pages in the category it adds.
  • so, we have to use the category lists. Can this tool do that?
  • As an example, {{Townshipdis}} puts things into Category: Township disambiguation. We can use the category list to find the pages, and change the old template to {{disambig}}. Each page name has to be saved, as it is then added to Wikipedia:Multiple-place names.
Well, that's an easy one, so I'll watch here to see whether you think it's doable, or a different kind of bot is required. I'm a FireFox on MacOSX kinda guy....
--William Allen Simpson 07:14, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I have temporarily dumped a list of the articles in that category at Wikipedia talk:Multiple-place names, now just to confirm, you want to replace all {{Townshipdis}} with {{disambig}}. Then we can merge the list that i dumped. Martin 10:41, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

p.s. I can merge them in quite easily, so dont worry about that. Martin 10:43, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, thank you, that is what is needed! The list is suspiciously missing A and B, but it's a start!
---William Allen Simpson 15:28, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
I think someone must have done A-B, otherwise it does seem odd, either way, the articles were already in that list, and the bot is complete now. Martin 20:24, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Wow, that was quick, I'm going to have to learn to use a bot. Thank you! ;-)

The next is Category:Geographical locations sharing the same title. The pages here have {{geodis}}, which needs to change to {{disambig}}. As above, the names need to be checked/added to the Wikipedia:Multiple-place names list.

The twist is leaving the names with "... (disambiguation)" in place, as each needs to be checked against its Primary by hand, and added to a different list. Whenever you happen to have a spare moment....

And could you tell me how you get the category into a list? I've not been able to figure that out.

--William Allen Simpson 23:46, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding my name to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage

Martin, please register me: Gaius Cornelius 18:49, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] namespace:0

This parameter isn't listed in solve_disambiguation.py. — 0918BRIAN • 2006-01-18 12:53

  • Nevermind, it's -main apparently. — 0918BRIAN • 2006-01-18 12:54

[edit] Bluebot

Is bluebot actually substing templates? I couldn't find him doing that in his recent history. Radiant_>|< 18:08, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Given that many of those templates are frequently used, maybe you could run a check once per week? Radiant_>|< 20:16, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I'm back

Hi,

I'm back. Thanks for all the effort you continue to put in. And thanks for bearing the burden of hostility despite your great work on improving Wikipedia. Bobblewik 18:59, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Computer help desk

Hi BlueMoose,

I don't mind that you added your software to the help desk at all; it sounds like your C# program is a lot faster as parsing the XML than my Perl module is - good job. =) Would you be interested in helping out around the help desk? I noticed on your user page you had a program that can sort out red-links from blue ones on a page. There is a case that needs help now that is right up that ally. If you don't feel like helping thats no big deal, but if you do, I know it would be appreciated by the fellow who opened the ticket. I'd do it myself but right now I have school and its keeping me quite busy. Take it easy. Triddle 19:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Well it looks like my question has come back to you again...I have asked a few other perl hackers the same question, but the only answer I got referred me back to Triddle. Obviously this can wait, but if you do develop something to sort the reds and blue (along with the comments) I want to be the first to know. --Reflex Reaction (talk)• 21:16, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kutztown University of Pennsylvania

I know that your an admin so I figured i would ask you. The subsection on this page (Kutztown University of Pennsylvania) ResNet, may not belong in the article. I would put up a consider deletion for this section template tag but I can't find it. Can you help me with this? And btw, welcome back. :) Thanks American Patriot 1776 00:56, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding cats, not re-cat

Hi. Can I add new cats (not re-cat) with AutoWikiBrowser or do I need to register a bot account to use category.py? All I want to do is add a list of pages in non-controversial categories to articles in sub-cats of Category:Natural history I have a list of articles, such as "Trees of California", that need to be added to Category:Trees of California, etc; nothing fancy. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can offer. —Viriditas | Talk 02:24, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB source

I was wondering if I could get the source to AWB. I'm interested in helping develop it. Thanks! Kushboy 06:11, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] pictures on Sculpture of the United States page

I don't understand why you prefer to have pictures grouped together rather placed individually within relevant text -- which seems more convenient to me -- and reminds me of the way some print encyclopedias have been formatted -- as well as the way one receives information while walking through an art museum. Does the Wikipedia have a policy on the placement of pictures ? Mountshang 02:10, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User 209.167.234.2 - Upper Canada College

Hi. I note you unblocked the user 209.167.234.2 as it is a multi-user IP from Upper Canada College. Just thought I'd let you know (because you seem to be the most appropriate person to tell) that vandalism has been popping up from this IP again - see recent edits to Benin. Don't know if this justifies re-blocking it or not. Kcordina 16:06, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks, i'll keep an eye on it. Martin 21:09, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to the computer help desk

Hi Bluemoose,

Thanks for signing up at the computer help desk, I really appreciate it. =) If you find you have the time I had an idea for a cleanup project that could be organized. I believe that cleanup projects serve as advertising for the computer help desk project. So not only does it help make Wikipedia better, it gets the word out about the project too, always a good thing. Anyway, the idea is fairly simple. Its policy that Wikipedia articles follow a standard introductory format, such as

In politics, a constitution is a system, often codified in a written document,

The rough logic for the cleanup project would entail making sure the first word of every article in the default namespace is literally "In" and that the first bolded word is the title of the article. This is likely to drum up a lot of false-positives and might have to be refined. If you are interested, give it a shot, and feel free to ask me questions. I've come up with a standard and quite useful cleanup project organization template. If you don't have the time, no big deal. Take it easy. Triddle 03:24, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] don't start with a heading

==Hello Martin:== So is don't start with a heading a nice general wikipedia guideline that I should be following all the time? [this from the Sculpture of the United States article] Carptrash 22:09, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

your observations make perfect sense, as do so many of the other things in life that i seem to miss. Carptrash 22:28, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
I had a friend whose version of that was, "You learn something everyday, if you start out dumb enough." and I find my self quoting him quite a lot. Meanwhile, were you the one who straightened up the photos in the Sculpture of the United States article? I think it is good now, but there needs to be a bit more shifting around to make the grouping make better sense [to me]. I am so-so at those sorts of tasks, so feel free [and you have already demonstrated that you do] to leap in at any time. This is a subject near and dear to my heart and I might quickly loose all objectivity. Carptrash 22:38, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Mostly all I want to do is to switch the Hosmer neo-classical piece with French's Seated Lincoln - at least all for now. Meanwhile I am doing my first "MOVE" right now, moving Edward Mccartan to Edward McCartan and I am afraid that I might have left some link behind or something. There are all these dire warnings all over the place - and I have already learned my one new thing for the day. Do you mind doing a quick "smash-and-grab" look at them and see if they are okay? Carptrash 22:51, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB code

I was wondering if I coudl have a copy of the code. I am pretty new to C# but have a bit of other programming expirence and am activly working on C# and thought I might be able to help with some new stuff. Dalf | Talk 10:19, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I think there is a link in the side box next to "user contributions" and "upload file" that says "E-mail this user". It has to be turned on by the user (your is turned off). However, I dont know if that allows attachments so ... scott at mu dot org. Dalf | Talk 21:12, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB Registration

Hi, I was wondering if I could be added to the registration list. I understand that the there is a recommended 500 edit minimum in order to weed out those that may or may not understand what they are doing. I am asking because I feel that I have a good idea of what to do and whatnot. (I'm a CSE major, I'm one of those people that others hate for looking at a piece of technology and understanding how everything works in 10 minutes.) It would make doing the Unstubby stubs project and disambiguation links I was working on a lot easier, but if I need to get to 500 edits first, that's cool. But I figured I'd give it a shot asking here. Thanks a lot -Spartanfox86 01:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the auto browser

I am kicking butt on the Untagged stubbs. I have removed over 300 of them from section 8. I hope to remove the whole section my self, as there is only 600 or so to go!!Eagle (talk) (desk) 21:20, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok will do!!!Eagle (talk) (desk) 01:54, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blue bot external links

One of my pet peeves is "External link" sections that have more than one link. Do you think you can make Bluebot find these cases and change them to the plural? Maybe something like checking if the External link section contains more than one "*". Qutezuce 23:50, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

When I was trying to code the AWB to reorder the end sections (external links, references, see also, etc.) I found that it was extremely difficult to write a code that found the end of each section. It worked, it just sometimes brought another section with it. I think, then, that it would be impossible to see how many bullets are in external links without spilling into the next section occasionally. I'm not saying it can't be done - it could look on the two lines following external links to see if they both start with a bullet, but that's not foolproof. I don't know, maybe Martin has a better solution. --M@thwiz2020 00:01, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prof.Carlos Nemer

Carlos Nemer (1965, Espírito Santo, Brasil) is a university professor at Federal University of Rio de Janeiro (Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro-UFRJ) in Industrial Engineering Department (DEI) and at Universidade Estadual do Rio de Janeiro (UERJ). Professor Nemer holds three undergraduate degrees: Civil Engineering major in Environmental Science (Catholic University of Rio de Janeiro-PUC-RJ), Architecture and Urban Design (Faculdade de Arquitetura e Urbanismo-Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro-FAU-UFRJ) and Law/Environmental law (Catholic University of Rio de Janeiro-PUC-RJ). He also has two graduate degrees: Master of Science in Systems engineering from Instituto Militar de Engenharia-IME (dissertation topic: a linear programming model related to fleet planing process including a field application for the brazilian truck transportation industry) and a MBA in Corporate Finance at Fundação Getulio Vargas-FGV-RJ.

His fields of expertise include:

   * Economic system Engineering;
   * Financial Engineering;
         o Corporate_Finance;
         o Project Finance;
   * Enterprise Application Integration (EAI);
   * Computer Systems applied to Industrial Engineering;
   * Environmental Science;
   * Organizational Innovation.

His personal interests are soccer playing (he pushes for Clube de Regatas do Flamengo (Flamengo Football Club)), Chess, Greek Mythology and Science Fiction. He is also a great guitar player and every weekend he gathers his students at Vinícius de Morais Street in Ipanema for a jam session.

[edit] AWB 1.7.4 Where?

After being enabled to use AWB I tried to start it but I keep getting told its an out of date version. (The about dialog says 1.7.1)

So sorry to ask but how to get the 1.7.4 version? I tried the link on wp:awb page [1] but its version 1.7.1.

Thanks for the great tool, I look forward to using it. FlyHigh 16:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Fixed now, probably got cached by my ISP. Thanks. FlyHigh 16:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB and in-use templates

Hi Martin. I see you have been busy hunting for duplicate words, and you have even found one in a an article I am writing: Cast Courts (Victoria and Albert Museum). I am not much bothered about the edit, but the article was marked with a ((Inuseuntil)) template. I guess that AWB does not currently have an option to ignore articles thus marked, but it might be a good idea. Gaius Cornelius 22:54, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uncategorised good articles

The reason to remove and not strikethrough articles when they are done in User:Bluemoose/Uncategorised_good_articles is so that AWB doesn't pick them up, correct? If so the intro text should be changed to make that more clear. I realized this after I did the strikethroughs, of course -Ravedave 23:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I hadnt actually thought of that, I remove them just because it's clearer. Martin 23:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
I updated the title text to mention to remove articles. Qutezuce and I are tearing right through the list. At this rate it should only take a month or two to finish :) -Ravedave 04:30, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] From Xiaogiabot

Crawlers are not allowed, see Wikipedia:Database_download#Please_do_not_use_a_web_crawler, although if you are only crawling a small number of pages it may be ok. Martin 09:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Bots"

Thank you Bluemoose for pointing me to the Web Crawler policy page. I will adhere to the policy of one page per second. I will just retrieve from one topic so I suppose there are not that many pages. There is suggestion to use database dump, but I must use web crawler because this the requirement in the assignment.
I am so new to Wiki community that I am not sure if this is the correct way to reply to you. Thank you on the info.
Xiaogiabot 04:34, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Accounting good

No, really, there was virtually no content there. The comments about dangerous goods and freight should be included somewhere but are nothing to do with accounting. The Land 22:47, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Ditto Global public good, which had little more than one sentence of content that wasn't already elsewhere. Don't get me wrong, we want articles about economic topics, but we might as well have redirects as substubs. BTW, the Wikipedia article was the top Google result for 'Accounting good', which suggests to me there wasn't too much interest in [[Good (accounting); if you look at the article it was originalyl created by Cecropia to distinguish a good from a service, hasn't grown much since, and where it did grow was mainly from random accretion. I might have a tendency to be too mergist, but don't thin kthat's happening here. The Land 22:55, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Interesting suggestion to rename Good (economics). I would have no objection, so long as there is only one article on the topic, and Good (economics) redirects there; essentially I don't think there's enough differentiation in the topics to sustain several articles. The Land 23:05, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Touch request for Bluebot

Hi Bluemoose. Would you mind having User:Bluebot touch everything linked from Wikipedia:Persondata/Missing links to correct Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Persondata? Thanks. Mike Dillon 05:30, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Done! Martin 10:22, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a bunch. Mike Dillon 16:21, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the databse dump request

Thanks so such for the welcome message database dump, it was so quick it's like having a personal programmer working for me!--Commander Keane 15:52, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles needing translation

Hi, Bluemoose. Instead of adding the {{wikify}} tag to an article needing translation, you could try {{notenglish}}. Thanks :-)

I didn't sign my name. Well... I'm an idiot. -- Kjkolb 05:23, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DatabaseSearchTool request

Hi, Bluemoose. I'm part of WP:ALBUMS and I'm working on listing and converting Albums needing conversions. Example of bad infobox: Where the Happy People Go. Good infobox: Dry As a Bone. We found several from just doing a Wikipedia search for bgcolor="orange" album. (orange is the infobox color). Similar searches for plum, darkseagreen yield results. Unfortunately, this is outdated as it often yields results which do in fact have current infoboxes. Could you with your magic of regular expressions, find album articles that have the old-style infobox? Maybe you can review the format of old-style (which is not standardized unfortunately)? We will then do the more tedious task of converting them manually. Relevant discussion is here. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. Gflores Talk 00:21, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I have an idea, Gflores! Use the AWB to make a list from Category:1990 albums, Category:1991 albums, etc so you have all albums in the AWB's list. Then, apply general fixes to all articles but do an "ignore if contains" for {{album infobox. Then, go to your contribs and all the articles you just edited are the albums that do not have the new infobox! --M@thwiz2020 01:06, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
I ran something at wikisign.org that looks like a good start [2]. If finds everything in a category ending with "albums" that contains "bgcolor" but does not use {{Album infobox}} or {{Infobox Album}}. It may have false positives right now because the database dump being used does not correctly report all links to templates. The dump is current as of January 25 and the spot checking I did found only albums with old infoboxes. Mike Dillon 01:27, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Wow, I did not know this site existed. Thanks for taking the time for the search. It looks great. Are these all the albums or was there a limit (of 1000?). I've posted on the talk page for the music project. Thank you again. Gflores Talk 01:50, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
I only found the site recently. It's quite nice. However, it does have a limit of 1000. I turned it into a count, so we'll see how many it finds (the results will be here when it completes which could be 5-15 minutes or so). I also added a check to work around the problem with templatelinks (also reflected in "What links here" undercounting for many templates). Mike Dillon 02:03, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi guys, I would be happy to run any database searches, although it appears you may have sorted the issue out. If not then let me know, I am waiting for the new datadump anyway so will be able to whatever required in a few days. thanks Martin 19:16, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB

Thanks very kindly for having added me to the registered users list for AutoBot. Have a nice day! Joe 19:15, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

thanks Joe! Martin 19:16, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for providing AWB. At some point in the future I might like to have the source code, both to help the project and also to see if I could modify it to work on other (i.e. my!) Mediawiki sites, if that would be alright. I don't need it just yet as I have too many other things on the go.

It's a nice idea and integrating with IE is the smart way to do it if you don't mind being tied to Windows. This project has a lot of potential I think. I also agree that you are right to restrict its usage to admins and established users, as in the hands of a vandal it could cause some damage! --kingboyk 23:42, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Multi regex expressions in AWB

Thank you very much for adding multi-replace to WP:AWB! You are doing impressive work on AWB, your bots and Wikipedia in general. Keep up the good work! --Adrian Buehlmann 09:11, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

I wanted to personally thank you for adding the "add category" feature. —Viriditas | Talk 09:26, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks guys, that's really nice! Martin 10:33, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] bot request

I hear you run a bot that will do subst:ing. Please see this discussion and let us know if you can help. Thanks :-) NoSeptember talk 14:26, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for not following up with you more promptly. Freakofnurture did the subst:ing with Catapult this morning, but Thank You for your willingness to help us out. :-) Cheers, NoSeptember talk 21:51, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot request: Wikification request bot

Greetings, Bluemoose. From Bot requests I am given to understand that you work on bots that work on backlogs. Looking at the serious backlog on Category: Cleanup by month, I had a bot idea I'd like to suggest. The biggest problem with "cleanup" right now is sorting: we have over 12,000 articles, and "cleanup" is waaaay too general to figure out what's wrong with the page.

One easily automated task is to hunt through a page and figure out how many words are hyperlinked. A page with a very low hyperlink ratio, say 0.5% or lower (less than 1 in 200 words), is likely to have never been wikified and so needs to be labeled with {{wikify}}. Such a bot could be run on the whole database, but is urgently needed for the cleanup crew. Would such a bot be possible? Alba 17:50, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

I can easily track down and make a list of unwikified articles that have the cleanup tag, using the database dump. However the fully automatic bot I use is a pywikibot, which I don't really know how to re-configure, User:AllyUnion, User:Cryptic, and User:Beland may be more helpful in making a bot to do the re-tagging, if I remember correctly Beland has a bot that changes cleanup tags already, so he may be most helpful. thanks Martin 18:00, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Database dump of Wikipedia namespace

Thanks for your reply on the Village Pump. Yes, I'd be interested in the database dump of the Wikipedia namespace. You mentioned you would be doing this soon. Please let me know when you plan on doing this. Thank you. --Go for it!

I too would be interested in poking around in the DB dump, how big is it? -Ravedave
I just noticed Go for it!'s request. I have the Jan. 25 db dump loaded on my computer and extract this information, so could handle the request. The number of pages is really huge (102,574), so it will be necessary to weed out all the individual RFA, VFD, RFC, POTD, ... pages. Perhaps, also sort by page hits. --Aude (talk | contribs) 00:36, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage

I noticed this page is a mess - people are adding their names to the top and bottom of the list. Since you seem to be running the thing, I was wondering if you might consider making it clear which end of the list people should add their names - or maybe making it a bit more idiotproof by forcing them to number their additions.

I'd also like to thank you for the AWB. It's a great tool - my only (minor) gripes are that (i) it has to run in the foreground (since it's great in the background while you are doing something else) and (ii) it runs off IE. But I realise that these are probably technical issues rather than intentional features, and it's a great tool/toy regardless. Guettarda 14:46, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Good point, I have reorganised it a bit. thanks! Martin 15:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bluebot substitution change request

Also posted to Bluebot:

I have just altered WP:SUBST to suggest that tl|lived and associated templates not be auto-SUBSTed: I'm going to attempt to have them auto-include biographies in [[Category:living people]] if no deathdate is specified, and obviously this is going to be volatile information which will be ruined if SUBSTituted out from under. Please could Bluebot therefore refrain from SUBSTing these particular templates for the foreseeable future? HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 15:57, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I haven't done this kind of thing for a while anywy. Also, is it worth it changing them? as last time I checked they were hardly used in any articles. Also if you were planning on merging the 3 templates as well I think that would be useful, no point in having duplication. thanks Martin 16:02, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
I think they have mostly been SUBSTed away . HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 16:21, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB background operation

Are you any nearer working out how to have AWB work properly in the background yet? With the nice new "ignore null edits" feature, it would be nice if we could set it running, and simply let it run through its list until a non-null edit appeared, whereupon it could sound a buzzer or something and we could bring it back up to check the changes. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 16:21, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

You replied on my talk page:

Hi Phil, I fiddled about for a while, and have finally mastered how to call Javascript on a web page from an application, they don't make these things easy, in fact I found only a scrap of information on the web on how to do it in c#2. This means AWB will be able call the Javascript behind the "save", "preview" and "show changes" buttons, rather than the current method which is slightly problematic as you pointed out. The problem I have now is that I don't know what the Javascript is that I need to call, and I just can't work it out either, maybe you have more of an idea? I assumed I could just look at the HTML source, but it doesn't appear that simple. any thoughts? thanks Martin 23:53, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I've got ABCD's "Force Edit Summary" extension installed in my custom Javascript and it appears that the click button is accessed as document.forms.editform.wpSave. Is there a method on that which you can invoke which will click it? A quick search for "wpSave" came up with User:Poccil/Automation.js, which suggests that doc.editform.wpSave.click() might do the trick. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 09:22, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IE unicode URL problem with AWB

On http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;kbhowto I entered "Internet Explorer URL unicode". Second entry in the list was http://support.microsoft.com/kb/303612/en-us. Which refers to http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/charsets/charset4.asp. Just thought that maybe could help. Sorry if silly. Just some wild clicking... --Adrian Buehlmann 23:00, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

<a href="/wiki/Xag%C4%A7ra_Stone_Circle" title="Xagħra Stone Circle">Xagħra Stone Circle</a>.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xagħra_Stone_Circle&amp;action=edit" class='external free' title="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xagħra Stone Circle&amp;action=edit">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xagħra_Stone_Circle&amp;action=edit</a> .
Note the encoding of the & as "&amp;". This is strange. --Adrian Buehlmann 23:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

  • if I click on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xagħra_Stone_Circle&action=edit it works in IE and the adress bar shows: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xag%C4%A7ra_Stone_Circle&action=edit. Seems like unicode chars are percent encoded in this case. If I enter http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xag%C4%A7ra_Stone_Circle&action=edit manually in the address bar it works. Couldn't that be done in AWB too? (Sorry if I'm asking silly questions. Just a bit public brainstorming). --Adrian Buehlmann 23:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Responded on my talk. --Adrian Buehlmann 23:49, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB without focus

probably you know about this, but when AWB is running, and while it's loading next article, if I switch to another window to do other things, when I return to AWB it doesn't show up the diff, but rather stalled at the dialog, and i then have to click on "show changes" manually to get the diff. This doesn't happen when AWB stays on foreground while loading the article. Any clue or a workaround? (since having AWB on foreground prevents me to do some work while it loads, and when there are many articles on queue, it's a lot of time wasted). -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 04:47, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

ARGHHH, I installed new versin (I was using 1.6.1.something) and now it even brings a popup each time! I know if it loses focus I'll have to press "show changes", how to disable that popup? -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 05:23, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB + Java

Hi, I have been working on trying to get AWB to save, show changes and preview by calling the javascript behind the buttons, rather than simulating actually clicking the buttons as it does at present. I have found it a bit difficult, but have progressed so now it can call some java (e.g. the java that inserts the unusual fonts, "insertTags"), unfortunately I just can't work out how to call the java behind the buttons, I suspect you probably know as you have the expert java user box thing on your user page. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, I'll send you the test program to demonstrate how to do what I have worked out + newest AWB if you want. many thanks! Martin 13:19, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Also, if it makes it any clearer, the code to call the javascript to insert the letter Ñ looks like:
webBrowser1.Document.InvokeScript("insertTags", new String[] { "Ñ", " ", " " });
Although it is more complicated than this single line, so I'll send you the code if you want to see it. Martin 17:04, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I haven't been on Wikipedia (or online at all) for two days, so I'll check my e-mail and look into this when I have time (probably pretty soon). I think, though, that using javascript will eliminate the out-of-focus problem. It's simple enough to submit a form using javascript, the problem is telling Wikipedia whether you want it to save, preview, or show diffs. --M@thwiz2020 17:28, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page name for temperature articles

To avoid flip-flopping between 'degree Fahrenheit' and 'Fahrenheit' or 'degree Celsius' and 'Celsius', I propose that we have a discussion on which we want. I see you have contributed on units of measurement, please express your opinion at Talk:Units of measurement. Thanks. bobblewik 23:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New messages in AWB

Hey, in AWB, whenever there are new messages, it tells me to read them and doesn't let me do anything. However, if the page has one of those fake new messages boxes on it, it still doesn't let me do anything, and, since I cant read fake messages, it never stops until I try going to another page. Can you fix this in the next version? Thanks, Rory096 03:31, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I had the same sort of issue today, but it had nothing to do with AWB. I think there was just some wiki-crazyness.-Ravedave 06:00, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB bug?

When doing auto tag, I noticed the AWB will auto-bold the article name, such as on article Samuel Alito it will auto '''Samuel Alito''' the first instance of the name. Problem I've discovered is it does this indiscriminately even if the article name is found in an [[Image:]] tag, for example on the top of Samuel Alito it has the image Image:Samuel Alito Court of Appeals_photo.jpg. What AWB did was auto bold that "Samuel Alito" part of the image tag, thereby breaking the image. See edit here. —akghetto talk 08:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

This is fixed in newest version thanks Martin 12:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requests for AWB source code

[edit] Pathoschild

Hello. I'm interested in modifying your AutoWikiBrowser for use on Wikisource; may I have the source code for this purpose? Thanks alot for creating it. :) // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 20:26, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RedLinkFinder

Thank you for your answer in Wikipedia talk:Bots. Your software works pretty fast ;). Anyway do you know how to work with different language Wikipedia ? --Manop - TH 15:14, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I might misunderstood this. I re-downloaded the file. I could not find the language code to select in the RedLinkFinder.exe though. --Manop - TH 16:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Wow! it works great. Thanks a ton. --Manop - TH 16:51, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PATCO line template

I dont know who else to go to this with but I trust you so... I have no idea what to do with the template Template:PATCO line. I have no clue how to read it or fill it in. For the artice I need a template for, Franklin Square (PATCO station), it has really been confusing me. I dont know if this is the place to birng it but like I said, I trust you so if you can help thanks in advance but if you are unable to, could you direct me to someone who could? Once again thank you. American Patriot 1776 04:39, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB

I heard from Karmafist that you can explain what AWB, (AutoWikiBrowser). Thanks!

WikieZach| talk 20:51, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

The AWB is a semi-automated Wikipedia editor developed by Bluemoose. It can repair bad links, sort the interwiki links, recategorize articles, auto-tag as stubs, find-and-replace, and much, much more. You can download it by following the directions at WP:AWB. However, it is still in development, so you must check each edit before saving. (The AWB automatically shows the diffs after each edit unless you select otherwise from the "general" menu in the program.) Do not edit too quickly, either, unless you have a bot account. Finally, don't make miniscule edits such as adding/removing a single line. Other than that, it is perfect for repairing bad links, removing deleted categories, and more! Martin (Bluemoose) can probably tell you more once he checks his talk page. Thanks for asking, though! --M@thwiz2020 21:32, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Good explanation, thanks! Martin 22:05, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB stuck adding things to watchlist

Hi there! I just started playing with AWB, replacing misspellings like 'develope' to 'develop' and I can't seem to keep AWB from adding my edits to my watchlist. The menu item for it is off yet it still persists. Strange no?

Thanks, JoeSmack Talk 22:36, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Also, is there any way I can filter out more than just one word/phrase in the 'Skip if it contains'? For instance, if I am looking for the word cant and replace it with can't, I want have it skip the phrases 'cant language' and 'cant hook' etc. JoeSmack Talk 22:51, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
In response to the first question, go to Special:Preferences and then click on "editing". If "add all pages you edit to your watchlist" is selected, they will all be added, even if the option is deselected on the AWB. As for the second question, check the box that says "regex" and then type in a regular expression. For example, to skip "cant language" and "cant hook", you can skip pages containing the regex "cant (language|hook)", where "|" means OR. If you want it to still edit the page, but just not that particular instance, then change the find and replace settings. Set the find and replace to regex enabled and first replace "cant" with "can't". Then, replace "can't (language|hook)" with "cant $1". This way, all cants become can't but then can't language becomes cant language (the $1 means whatever was in the first set of parentheses). If this doesn't work, just ask me and I'll help or Bluemoose may be able to isolate the problem. If you leave a message here, I can still respond since I have Bluemoose's talk page on my watch list. Thanks! --M@thwiz2020 03:28, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Sounds right to me. thanks again! Martin 11:06, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks guys, works great! JoeSmack Talk 01:48, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB Error

I think I'm going crazy. I could have sworn that earlier today the application in my taskbar was running as "AutoWikiBrower" (without the "s"), but now it's fixed. Does that variable call the website or something or am I just nuts?

The real reason I'm writing is to ask to get a copy of the source for AWB. I'd like to write some extensions for it (simple macros) to conduct specific, tedious tasks that I'm working on. If you could email it to me, I'd appreciate it. If you need to send it as an attachment, send me an email and I'll reply so that you have my address. Thanks! --ʀ6ʍɑʏ89 03:51, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summary

Hi. I've recently found a number of edit summaries on my watchlist starting with "AWB assisted ...".

Starting your edit summary with a link promoting some software makes it slower for me to scan my watchlist. It's also frustrating because I can't even run Windows software on my computer, so it feels a bit like you are spamming my watchlist (no offence intended). Would you mind setting your AWB software so that it doesn't add the promotional link to the edit summary, or at least so it puts it at the end, like "... using AWB"?

If you don't mind, would you also leave a note for the developers whether you agree with me or not, at talk:AutoWikiBrowser? Thanks, Michael Z. 2006-02-20 05:34 Z

[edit] Source request

Hiya, may I please have access to the AWB source code? Thanks! --Elonka 23:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC) (elonka@aol.com)

I'm sure Bluemoose will give you the source, but, FYI, AWB might go open source soon. --M@thwiz2020 23:43, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AutoWikiBrowser for Other Wikis

Hy there,

though I haven't been able to really give your application a drive, I've been looking for a similar tool that would work with Mediawiki but for personal Wikis.

Is this doable or are you considering it ?

Cheers.

It would be doable, although it might be fairly difficult, and to be honest I have no interest in doing it, as it is already very time consuming. thanks Martin 18:20, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CVS

ThatGuy is familiar with CVS - he's been on SourceForge for seven years. Do you want to make him an administrator so he can deal with all the CVS? --M@thwiz2020 22:37, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

His SourceForge username is that_guy_fts and he left a message at the SourceForge AWB forum. --M@thwiz2020 22:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Have added him now, thanks Martin 23:02, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maine state highways closure

Your closure of the CFR of Cat:Maine state highways is listed at Wikipedia:Deletion_review#Category:Maine_state_highways by the usual Capitalise All Roads double-act. As "censure" has been mooted by one of same, I felt it was only fair to mention this to you. Alai 03:31, 23 February 2006 (UTC)