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[edit] Bluebell West Hoathly Station

This station is actually located in the neighbouring (actually almost attached) village of Sharpthorne. Perhaps that warrants a mention, maybe someone knows why it's called 'West Hoathly Station' when it's not actually in West Hoathly? Tom1234 17:18, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

As stated in the historical commentary, stations were sited near to where the local sponsors resided, for which some examples are quoted. It is likely that a sponsor in West Hoathley village was responsible for the station being given that name. Although the station is sited in Sharpethorne as any map will show, this is due to the way the line was built in relation to the lie of the land. Basically there was no central planning done, in Victorian times with regards to the siting of lines and stations, unlike France and Germany where the local prefectures and the military had a major say in what was done. So lines in the UK were built on a whim basis. Now had there been greater planning done then the railway network throughout the whole country would be different to what it is today.(MPOV) Aquizard 11:30, 2 January 2007(UTC)

[edit] Rubbish-filled Cutting - How Big?

I've just tweaked the section that describes how the line is to be extended to East Grinstead. However, I find it hard to believe that there is a 50m deep cutting on the line. Also, the article does not mention how long the cutting is. 600 cubic metres of rubbish would correspond to a 50m length of cutting that was (eg) 3m x 4m in cross-section, which is rather more believable. Could this information be updated by someone 'in the know', please?

EdJogg 17:47, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two maps

Is there any particular reason why the article has two maps? They cover the same area, but one appears unfinished and includes tracks which were part of another line (the Croydon, Oxted and East Grinstead Railway). --Old Moonraker 13:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes I thought this, especially since the area talked about next to the second (smaller, incomplete) map is in the main map, maybe it should be moved to where the second map is and the second removed? Bluebellnutter 16:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

The Closed loop on the map just to the north of Lewes needs to be updated it was the Hamsey Loop, a line that was abandoned in 1868.Aquizard 21:12, 29 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquizard (talkcontribs)

The line is still visible from the air: 50°53′48″N 0°00′37″E / 50.896711, 0.010216, and on the modern 1:25000 Ordnance Survey: TQ 414 127. I haven't the skill to change the route diagram, sorry. --Old Moonraker (talk) 22:23, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Done: it wasn't as hard as I thought (but, as before, due acknowledgement to those who know how to do it properly!) --Old Moonraker (talk) 22:54, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Revised East Grinstead Idea

I've tweaked the East Grinstead area and put the new layout here for comment. The drawback is that it seems to show two stations there: the advantages are that both lines and stations can be labelled and the fact that the powers that be have inconsiderately closed the high level but left the low level open can be shown more clearly. Questions? Comments? Britmax (talk) 00:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

This is a very good attempt in trying to separate out the two lines and stations, and well done for trying. However, it is not an accurate reflection of the topography of what existed at East Grinstead. In reality, as we both know, one station existed on top of the other, so to speak. What your new diagram infers is that the two stations existed at separate locations. Basically what needs to be done is an accurate representation of the layout of the stations and is there a symbol in the database of maps that will achieve this? Also one of these days I will figure out how to draw these maps! Additionally I have been to the PRO at Kew and looked in the files that they have on the 3 Bridges to T/W/West line. An interesting read, particularly the letters and comments from East Grinstead UDC, as well as the East Grinstead Transport and Rail Users Society. Remember closure was authorised by Castle at a time after the 1966 General election Labour win, their second win inside of two years. Also, unlike Marples who was concerned over key marginal seats and potential railway closures that would affect those marginal votes, Castle was not. So a number of tory areas were affected more so by rail clousures under Labour. Also unlike Surrey and Cornwall, East Sussex CC did not put any monrey into railways at all, exacerbating the situation further. Aquizard (talk) 11:00, 22 March 2008 (UTC)



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