Talk:Blue (disambiguation)

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[edit] Dog coat color

"Blue" is a color. It's a color of dogs. Why would someone who's trying to figure out what a "blue dog" is look for "coat" first instead of "blue"? I think they'd look directly to blue. This needs to be in the list somewhere; there's no reason for it not to be here as the word is "blue" and this is a disambiguation page for "blue". So please figure out where to put it back into the article. It doesn't have to be at the top of the list, but it needs to be somewhere. Elf | Talk 18:10, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. I don't see a risk of confusion for that concept with a plain "blue". Someone looking for information about the dog colour would, I am certain, have a more specific search than "blue" — unless the term "blue" is often used without clarification at all (the conversation's topic-at-hand doesn't count). Keep in mind that this is a very specific search, and no reasonable person would expect a hit out of just "blue". A reasonable person looking for this topic would be more likely to conduct a search, or to search a more general topic.
The page "blue dog" should have some way to get to the dog page, that would make sense.
If you must insist, the link should go at the very bottom in the "related" section, because there is not an entire article on "blue dog", and the chance of someone looking for that topic compared to other entries on the page is very small. It should be formatted as such:
However, I maintain that this is clutter, and it is reasonable to expect a user to conduct more appropriate search. Neonumbers 10:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup, 06:05, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I redid most of the page. In the principle that disambiguation pages should be simple (without compromising important information), I endeavoured to simplify the descriptions for many items, especially the albums.

Items that I removed, and my reasons for them, follow:

These five entries are not likely to be confused with "Blue" (not ambiguous), that is, someone looking for any one of these items cannot reasonably expect to arrive there by typing in "Blue". A user who wishes to conduct a search for "Blue" should conduct a search. The mere presence of "Blue" in the title does not mean the entry merits inclusion; the item must be referred to as "Blue".

These entries, removed from the see-also section, are more specific than "blue" and someone looking for one of them would not be likely to simply enter "blue"; that is, if they knew what they were looking for, they would enter that entire word.

None of these people are commonly known as "Blue", though for courtesy, a link to the appropriate place on the List of people by name is included.

Same reason as the first five entries.

These entries are not commonly referred to as "Blue" (even the first, at best(worst), is known as the Blue Period), and a user would enter the phrase (or "blue period") to reasonably expect to arrive there.

If you think one of these items should be included, please include a comment <!-- --> next to it to briefly explain why.

Neonumbers 06:05, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red vs. Blue

I think someone should put a link to the List of Characters in Red vs. Blue here Rabin: Toa of Electricity 20:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

A link somewhere, but not on this disambiguation page. This isn't meant to be an exhaustive list of everything "Blue" could refer to, it's just a list of things whose titles are ambiguous with "Blue". It is reasonable to expect someone looking for that information to type in "Red vs. Blue" or something like that (or perhaps "Blue Team"). "Blue" would be insufficient. Neonumbers 23:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rare Beef.

Rare Beef, Blue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.77.164.71 (talk) 12:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reversion for its own sake?

I changed the link to the Wolf's Rain character from:

to:

The latter seems a lot more useful to me since it links directly to the paragraph on the character, whereas the previous version links to another link, which then has to be scrolled through. What's the point of making more work for people? But my version was reverted by User:ShelfSkewed with the message (rv--redirects preferred on dab pages when they match the dabbed term).

Sorry - I don't know what that means, and I don't see the point of undoing what I considered an improvement. Lee M (talk) 05:19, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

The preference for redirects over piped links on disambiguation pages is a guideline from the Manual of Style for disambiguation pages : "This guidance to avoid piping means that a link to a redirect term will sometimes be preferred to a direct link, if the redirect term contains the disambiguation title and the redirect target does not." Your concern about the usefulness of the redirect can be remedied by changing the target of the redirect to the one you chose (much better, I agree), which I've done. ShelfSkewed Talk 05:50, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Things called "Blue [whatever]"

The criteria for whether something belongs on a dab page is whether that thing is, or could be, referred to by the disambiguated term alone--in this case, Blue. I doubt that anyone calls the Blue Mountains just "Blue"--or that a user would search for them by entering only Blue in the search box--and there are many, many similar topics, far too many to list here and still have this remain a useful dab page. If Blue Mountains is added, then we'd logically have to add Blue Boat, Blue Crane, Blue Iguana, Blue Jay, and a very long list of other non-ambiguous things that happen to start with Blue but aren't called just "Blue". The Lookfrom link in the See also section provides easy access to all of those other uses.--ShelfSkewed Talk 04:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

The disambiguation page already includes other names with "blue [whatever]": British Blue, Russian Blue, Case Blue and Joseph Blue Pulaski, which I doubt anyone calls those just "Blue". Lots of disambiguation pages don't just include the term chosen in the title (i.e. Blue). Also, the Blue Mountains article doesn't link to anything specific; it's only linked to related articles by the Arctic Cordillera template. Black Tusk 19:42, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
A cat of a blue variety can be referred to as a "blue", although that use is not supported by either article, so those entries could be removed if you like. The Old School character listed by his full name here is indeed called "Blue" in the film. Case Blue is, I agree, a questionable entry. But, in any case, the presence of borderline items that could or should be removed is no argument for including another such entry. But I did you one better. I did a Google search and found several references to the Blue Mountains--both the Australian and Canadian ranges--as "the Blues". Of course they're called that--it should have occurred to me before. So it would make sense to add them to either Blues (disambiguation) or The Blues (disambiguation) or both. Those are pages where people searching for the mountain ranges might actually land. --ShelfSkewed Talk 03:01, 2 May 2008 (UTC)